Dan Gould

Exactly. Far superior to five inch square CD inserts, the next best thing to owning the vinyl itself, and for most of us, the only affordable choice.

First I've heard of it.

I think John's idea is a great one - a Rare Grooves Lost Sessions. Maybe Michael could even include a track from the Grant Green - Gene Harris date.

this is obviously somebody looking to get a reaction, for reasons inexplicable. the best response is to ignore this uninformed and mean-spirited post. Y'all have never seen a troll before??? This is hardly the first time. A search of his posts reveals this in the HIram Bullock RIP thread: So what we know is: This guy has never identified himself and hides behind a screen name, but apparently he books concerts or clubs or at one time he did He enjoys trashing people, alive, dead, or those he just wishes would die

Good point, Tom. You really can't expect Baldelli to step in for any extended period. Two or three starts a week when there's a tough lefty is all you can do, and with Drew on the roster I don't see how you can go into the season with him as your backup. Looks like Gabe Kapler III.

Agreed, and it was listed in my Stupendous Sale without any takers.

My mileage varies significantly.

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Good point Jay, I couldn't think of the word that had been used and went with "anger".

I really wish Lon would jump into this at some point, as he was the first guy I knew who dug the classic era of BNs and hard bop who eventually discovered that he liked less of it, particularly as he dug into the earlier eras and styles.

"Recordings" in this context seems to mean albums, i.e. collections of songs on lp or cd, because you are talking about the sequence of songs in a collection. It seems like you are saying that hard bop albums were formulaic. What about swing? Well, swing was not recorded on albums in its heyday. Songs came out as singles mostly. So no, not forumlaic in the same sense. I did make specific reference to the Verve LPs by swing stars like Webster and Hawkins, and that it seems to me that while there was a formula at work, that formula doesn't inspire some listeners to eventual boredom the way hard bop recordings seem to. I thought the point made about "exuberance" vs "anger" was a pretty good one. Exuberance and good feelings may be easier to listen to on an ongoing basis.

I'm with John, if I really enjoyed a recording before, its unheard of for me to decide its dull later on. If anything, familiarity can dull the pleasure, but it never loses its enjoyability.

Sox have traded Coco Crisp to KC for their setup man Not sure if this is the best that Coco could have gotten, as he definitely re-established some value last season, but it sounds like this guy is someone who might allow them to keep Masterson in the rotation. He might also be the reliever they thought they had with Craig Hansen before they dumped that bum on the Pirates in the Manny-Bay trade. One thing is for sure - if he ends up with Timlin's spot in the bullpen, that's a gigantic upgrade. Now the interesting question is whether Jacoby is truly ready for full time, no one else on the roster who thinks he should be the starter, duty in CF? And, related, who becomes the fourth outfielder? There's talk of Baldelli returning to New England, I think he has big upside but his mitochondrial disorder is a huge "buyer beware" sign. But maybe you maximize his current value with regular spot starts, and he'd certainly be a dangerous bat off the bench.

And the winner is ... DUSTIN PEDROIA ... pretty comfortably over Mourneau, with Youkilis third. So that means that the guy who "swings too hard" and looked overmatched when he first reached the majors has won a Rookie of the Year and followed it up with a Silver Slugger, Gold Glove and MVP. I can only imagine how he's going to mouth off now.

A lot of people starting over find something to rent rather than purchase a new home.

I totally agree with Ubu. All of the originals are strong, with Moment's Notice being at least on a par with the title track. And the ballad ain't too bad either.

I don't think it's necessarily been shown that more people will be better off at less overall cost. The overall cost to the taxpayer of supporting hundreds of thousands of ex-workers, and their descendents who will catch on to the same cultural shift, for an indefinite period on welfare is likely to completely outweigh any prop-up costs that would enable a short-term retrenchment or restructuring (by short I mean a decade or so). This has been going on here for decades (see my earlier post) and the situation is, in all probabilty, irretrievable. So you have a situation in which there is every prospect of supporting large proportions of the population on welfare for ever if you allow this kind of local/regional catastrophe. MG In the UK, descendants may be stuck in the same cultural shift, but that isn't the case in the States. People have many more options, including as John mentions, moving where the jobs are. Or choosing to pursue alternatives through higher education. The fact that being on the dole "for ever" or taking "poor man's early retirement" isn't an option in the States has something to do with that.

Yes, I communicated with him to order one of their CDs when I was looking to get anything with Bubba Brooks on it.

Yes. The spending of relatively poor people is reliable because they spend it on necessities. The greater one's income, the greater the proportion that is spent on stuff that's not really necessary and can, therefore, be cut when things get tough. This has a downward racheting effect on the economy and makes recessions worse than they would otherwise be. Furthermore, the spending of poor people is almost all domestic. Of course some of the goods are imported, but they are bought domestically and therefore support proportionately more jobs in the domestic economy than the spending of the rich does. MG I don't think any of this is really true, Allan. Yes, the relatively poor spend on necessities. But with little for superfluous spending, they don't effect the economy for better or worse very much. Its when the large middle classes close their wallets that recessions worsen. Most of the rich go right along doing their thing - vacations, luxury cars, over-priced clothes. The economic "gas" isn't when the rich ramp up their spending, its when the huge middle of the income distribution feel better about their situation and start spending again.

No one said "we will all be better off" - more people will be better off, at less overall cost. Will there be people in worse shape, more or less permanently? Yes. But why should a failing commercial concern be propped up indefinitely? For all the reasons listed in that WSJ article, as currently constituted, GM is in an untenable position, now and in the long-term. Giving them tax-payer money to finance current operations doesn't do a thing to change that.

MG, that may be true but I've never seen anyone post how they "can't stand to listen to another swing record - it all sounds the same to me" whereas that is a not untypical complaint about hard bop records.

I've been thinking about this topic for a while ... and the recent threads about BN recordings that aren't reaching some people anymore, or comments about the BN "formula" for recordings makes me think this is a good time to bring it up. If hard bop recordings got overly formulaic, with a "Sidewinder" type number, maybe a gospel-inflected number, a couple of standards, a modernist original or two, can the same be said of swing recordings? I think of the things Norman Granz put out, and you could say that there was a similar formula at work, just with different ingredients. So - is it possible to get "bored" by those records too? Why is it that it seems that more people need breaks from hard bop but no one says "I listened to a Ben Webster Verve yesterday and it just didn't reach me." Is it all individual taste or is there some qualitative difference? I don't know what the answer is but it does seem that there is a difference in response, for those whose listening encompasses both sub-genres. Dyed-in-the-wool hard boppers never tire of it, but it seems like for some who've enjoyed hard bop in the past end up needing a break or suddenly come to the realization, like Vic seemed to, that the music isn't as special as they thought.

The truth of the matter for me is that BN, Riverside, Prestige were all great labels. I've never tired of the Blue Note "formula" in hard bop or soul jazz, but I'd say that some of the classic recordings, as thrilling as they are, have lost something simply due to having listened to them so many times.

The only archive that exists is the poor quality audio that resulted. Combined with Bob's dental problems at that stage in his life, transcribing became a nightmare, and so there is nothing to read.

Hey, this guy deserves credit for underselling the first guy, who wants $555.55 - and he's underselling him by a lot, more than the cost of a Mosaic Select, with shipping!