PFunkJazz

You put it very well, Mr Connoisseur. And Dr J: I agree, Notes from Big Sur does take a while to get going, though in a good way as you note. In that respect it reminds me a bit of the title track of Pharoah Sanders' Tauhid - without carrying the analogy any further, because I feel Lloyd's spirituality is altogether quieter and more personal than Sanders' more extrovert groove.

I am so happy to find this thread and some fellow Lloyd enthusiasts. I first saw Lloyd, with his original Quartet, at the Antibes Jazz Festival in 1966. It was a warm balmy evening, quite late when Lloyd came onstage and launched into Forest Flower. It was just magical. I was barely into my teens and until then mainly a Dave Brubeck/Duke Ellington (also at that Festival)/Gerry Mulligan/Rolling Stones (I know) fan. Lloyd opened my ears wider and I've since acquired practically everything he's ever released. I love them all - the CBSs, the Atlantics, the mid period indie label hoppings, the ECMs. His music has changed at the edges over the decades, but its core values have remained constant. For me, much as I've enjoyed Coltrane, Sanders and Henderson and others, Lloyd has always been and remains today The Man. If I had just one album to take to a desert island it would be Dream Weaver, two and I'd add Notes from Big Sur, three and I'd add Forest Flower. But basically there isn't a dud in the entire canon and you can buy them blind.

Deliberately obtuse, I think.

And you tell me to calm down, Joe G! Lift up the stone man and see what's crawling about.

I don't understand whether you are being deliberately obtuse or simply stupid. I mean, are you another Riefenstahl apologist or just thick?

What?? Read his posts if you can stomach them.

Christiern's photo on the Members page makes him look like the ex-Nazi author in Mel Brooks' movie The Producers. Really. Check it out. Creepy or what?

Have to go offline for 12 hours. Keep on keepin on. Check you tomorrow.

Well, anything is possible. But no, not likely, I admit. But have you read it? ParanoidFunkJazz

or protest too much anyway!

I hate racial supremacists. and Christiern comes over like a closet Nazi. As the Bard wrote: "Methinks she doth proeest too much." And he does look the ex-Nazi author in Mel Brooks' movie The Producers. Check out the Members' page. It's the only funny thing about this entire thread.

But it's true! Christiern looks like a dead ringer for the ex-Nazi author in Mel Brooks' movie The Producers! If it wasn't for his dodgy politics it would be funny. As it is, it's rather frightening.

Christiern asks: "Does that in any way diminish the former's accomplishment?" Answer: of course it does! Can't you see that? Or won't you see that? But most tellingly: WHY IS THIS SO IMPORTANT TO YOU? What is driving your concern? I fear the worst. And I'm no more "anonymous" than you, unless you mean why haven't I got a mug shot on the members' pages. Your's makes you look like the ex-Nazi author in Mel Brooks' The Producers, by the way.

Good riddance to the bitch. Shame millions of Nazi race/war victims didn't enjoy a similar lifespan. And shame on her apologists. They don't belong here.

Soulstation - don't neglect Lee Perry's Super Ape album, or Culture's Harder Than the Rest and Two Sevens Clash albums.

If I got a dollar for every time I saw Thelonious Monk mis-spelt, I'd be a rich man.

Hi Soulstation - But there are some good tracks on Legalize It, it must be said. And I endorse the sentiment of the title track absolutely! Have you checked out any of Bunny Wailer's late period Island albums? Not so chest thumping as Tosh, but for my money, deeper roots.

I met Tosh several times back in the day, and to paraphrase what some record producer or other said about Chet Baker, he was a whining, arrogant asshole. Just for the record.

say what?

Back at ya! Thanks man. Stay tooned.