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David S. Ware is not a Coltrane clone anymore. I am not too familiar with his ouevre, but of what I have the one I like the most is Corridors and Parallels (AUM Fidelity). Very strong work IMO, with excellent writing, and very original synth playing by Matthew Shipp. Ware burns on it. --------------------------------------------- As for African Drums, I agre with your assessment - excellent work. Thinking about it, I also don't have too many solo drums records: a stunning one by Milford Graves on Tzadik (but, as I mentioned, in additon to stunning drumming, there is nearly constant ... hmmm...vocalizing... also stunning, in a way) and one by Han Bennink that I don't remember. And yeah, one by Fritz Hauser - "Solodrumming" (hat[now]ART) - also a good one, if very different from the ones mentioned above. That's about it. It's a shame Elvin never did a complete solo recording.
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Phenomenal, you mean It is highly recomemnded and should be avalabel for some negligeble amount of $ at amazon.de. As for Mangelsdorff and multiphonics, I remeer I was really looking forward to listenig to his solo record called Purity (on Mood records), only to discover that it was all multiphonics stuff - and really dull. Funny enough, multiphonics is porbably used to enrich the expressive means of trombone but instead it just limits them. On the other hand, Mangesdorff's duo with Wolfgang Dauner (also on Mood, I think it is called Two is a Company) is very nice as I remember - very warm, gentle and full of beautiful interplay. Time to listen to it again. How's Dauner's reissue on MPS, btw?
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It is still in print! - http://free-music-production.de/fmpcds/efmpcd034-035.htm
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Sounds nice. Hope it will get reissued by Atavistic one day. Talking about Mangelsdorff, I recently listened to his duo with Lee Konitz (on Enja) - surprisingly boring stuff. Mangelsdorff is mostly playing his multiphonic thing as accompanyment, and it is fun for first 30 seconds, butthen becomes a bit annoying since the expressive pallette is pretty limited. Konitz also does not seem to be too inspired by this, and produces some of his most dry playing I've heard. Are there any other duos of Konitz with trombone, btw? - this could be a beautiful combination.
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I can't accept statements like this, couw!
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I share your feeling about MOONDOC. A competent player, sort of free bopper, but with no particular skills and lot of "clichés" in his play. I think his greatest talent is to surround himself with very good to great musicians. I own two or three (must check how much) records of his but never really listen to it. I can't accept statements like this as informed ones unless one heard Revolt of the Negro Lawn Jockeys Well, David, no one told you to accept anything. Is expressing an opinion or a feeling (like I did) a no no in this thread nowadays?? You' d better accept it Hans, since as you wisely noted expressing a disagreeing opinion is an absolute no no here. The best form for displaying your disagreement (of you dare to) is to start "David, you are of course absolutely correct, but I had an opinion [better use word "fallacy"] - before you were so kind to open my eyes, that...".
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I share your feeling about MOONDOC. A competent player, sort of free bopper, but with no particular skills and lot of "clichés" in his play. I think his greatest talent is to surround himself with very good to great musicians. I own two or three (must check how much) records of his but never really listen to it. I can't accept statements like this as informed ones unless one heard Revolt of the Negro Lawn Jockeys
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Gentlemen, I'll be in Russia next week, and I was thinking of picking up some Sergey Letov's CDs. There are some MP3s samples of his here (half of the links are not working, though): http://www.letov.ru/MP3.html Anybody's interested in getting a copy?
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Looks good. I know Texier only through his recording in Sclavis-Romano-Texier trio, which I enjoy but wish it would have more edge - it is all just too pretty. Looks like this one is a bit funnier and rattier, so I'll probabl give it a try.
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I have never heard them. http://www.j51.com/~borbeto/ Looks interesting... Have you heard them?
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I saw Perry Robinson live (with Art Barron on trombone and Ed Schuller on bass) -one of the best concert I've ever seen - but npot because of the RObinson, but because of all three - this is the best example I ever witnessed of supreme level of interaction where whole by far exceeds the sum of the parts... this was something absoliutely unbelievable. And musicians obviously thought so as well, because after the music was over they kept staring at each other for a minute or so silently, with stunned expression on their faces. Barron then said something along the lines of "we didn't even need to use drugs, eh?". There were 4 people (including myself) in the audience.
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ubu, I would like to note that I take all your CD-R shipments very seriously, and intend to give them all a very serious listen (or two or three) and post my tedious but invaluable comments here. In other words, you can safely keep the flow of the CD-Rs coming - they all will get a necessery level of attention I am going to Russia tomorrow, and this time I firmly intend to bring a new batch of Russian music. If I find something worthwile, all usual suspects will eventually get a copy as well. ---------------------------------- John, don't underestimate So Funky! - it does sound pretty lightweight on th first listen, but the more you listen the more intricacies you will discover - it is an impressively clever record. And Negri's technique on it is simply stunning.
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So what are you waiting for - make CD-Rs and send it out! - you know the address. I actually really would appreciate a copy, if it's not too much trouble, ubu.
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So Funky was also part of the order from jazzos, so I'll be listening to that one later on today. This might be the only example of funky clarinet you will find. And there is some mighty Enrico Rava there as well!
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My package from jazzos finally arrived, so I will now have a chance to judge your proclamation for myself. So far I am really enjoying this disc... yeah, this is a fantastic album! thank you for recommending this one! Glad you liked it. Now start checking the rest of the Negri discography (and so will I - I have just a 3 discs of his, and it's time to expand!).
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Hahn's dis on Enja is very strong. YOu can get it directly from Enja's website: http://www.enjarecords.com/cd.php?nr=ENJ-9007
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Heeey, this sounds like a nice one- Hopkins and Blackwell.... and Moondoc! Can't be too bad. BTW, anyone knows if there were an Black Saint / Sould Note releases this year? ------------------------------------------------ Hans, have you heard Monndoc's "Revolt of the Negro Lawn Jockeys". That's a mighty mighty record, and Moondoc just sahines on it (and so does Khan Jamal).
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I saw Brötzmann's tentet with Drake and Zerang, and they are both very animated drummers and a pleasure to watch (and listen to, as well).
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1. Pretty generic opening, I would say. There is a lot of music like this played (mostly in Europe): folk-based (Breton – tango – Balkan –Romanian - Hungarian - whatever), tricky time signature, overly composed and always a bit sterile (and IMO always lose to the “roots” they are derived from – folk music). OK, pretty banal violin solo. The best moment – nice drum sounds during the solo. I would guess this is something from France. Did not inspire me too much. 2. Not bad. Classical training. A bit of Rachmaninov mannerisms, he-he. I assume this is the man who played with Mingus, RRK and others, but for me he is at his best playing solo. If this is him, then this is not one of his most interesting recordings. Otherwise, it could be the guy who hired Ornette, Cherry & Co as his band in late-50s – but then this must be some of his earlier recordings – he’s mellowed a bit. Naaaaaah, does not sound like him too much – I haven’t noticved these up-up-up patterns in his playing and he is not as “smooth”. Most likely my first guess. I like it. Covers a lot of ground in such a short period of time. Oh, could this be the guy whose trio recordings will be reissued soon on Mosaic Select? Yeah, his one is the most likely probably. Does not have too many of characteristic licks (and no blues feeling), though. Yes, yes. And the other guess, that I have to check since I haven’t heard any of his recordings for a very long time – one of the founding AACM guys. Still active as far as I know. Curious to learn about this one. 3. Oh, very “classically” sounding saxophone - very “straight”. Or is it clarinet? IN any case, very ball-less sound. Don’t like it too much –not too interesting compositionally, and improvisations are pretty awkward and without particularly strong ideas, IMO. 4. Hey, here is a saxophone sound I like more! Tenor solo is OK, interesting writing. Altoist I should know – is this the guy who recorded for Columbia a bit and recently recorded on Pi? Not too familiar with his work, but this does not sound experimental enough for him. Good alto solo. Nice baritone. Good. I’ll be most ashamed about not identifying this one. 5. Oh, I like opening like this. Unexpected drums with this steady rhythm. Oh, now I don’t like it too much – cinematic stuff, also French most likely (not that I don’t like French music)… too pretty. Bass and trumpet solos are OK, but nothing outstanding or too original. Nice bass sound – could this be a bassist’s date? 6. Nice. I think this is the guy who’s been there with Tristano and is still going strong. Pianist is interesting, but I don’t know him. My favorite track so far. 7. Live. Good tenor! Well-played, but I am not too fond of this sort of post-bop mainstream material (and I don’t have much of it in my collection). If I am getting it correctly, the tenorist and pianist are already dead, and some of their OOP material will be released soon as Mosaic Select. Bit of course, I am not sure – the tenor is more generic and less passionate, and piano player is less fluid (although good – my favorite musician here). And most importantly the drummer definitely does not sound like this quartet’s drummer - more like Billy Higgins. Hey, could it be Higgins quartet with Bob Berg and David Kikosky (sp?) on piano. I have their disc on Red somewhere – I don’t remember it, but I do remember that I was impressed by this Kikoski guy. Yeah, this is more like it. 8. Bass is too obtrusive and hmm.. direct –tum-tum-tum. I think a piano player like this would benefit from more flexible accompaniment. Bass solo is not elegant at all. The piano is OK. Would have preferred to hear piano solo. 9. Oh, such an improvement in sound qulity. Here we go – a much more interesting bass. I like it a lot. Together with track 6 this is my favorite one so far. Nice ideas from saxophonist! – not too many notes played but all good –and beautiful sound! Awkward arco, but I like it. Looking forward to hearing who it is! I’ll buy this CD (if I don’t have it already, he-he) 10. Bass bass bass!!! Good! Hey, this must be the wild Argentinean man, when he was still wild. Although not too much of Latin American influence. He-he, here we go – a Latin American influence. Unless this is some catch, this is him…although…although the sound is not as wild as The Argentinean produced (not that much of the altissimo scream). In general, gorgeous tenor sound, but otherwise nothing particularly outstanding (improvisations are pretty basic, but this is always the case with The Argentenian). 11. Good contrast to previous tune. Is it two pianists, or I have hearing hallucinations?!?! Nothing much I can say about this one, but I like it! Some Bach-ian feel in it. Good ideas. Tasteful support from bass and drums. 12. Very good. Excellent theme. Quite aggressive piano playing – nice contrast to previous track. Good bass-drummer team. Drummer sounds like Joe Betsch to me, btw. Saxophone solo is OK. Trumpet is nice. Pianist is the most interesting, IMO. And again, a very nice theme – I would be interested to know who the composer is. 13. I like the drummer! DeJohnette? Sounds like musicians have been playing a lot together. Nice bass – Gary Peacock? I would assume this is the famous ECM trio. “Assume” because I don’t think I’ve heard any of these trio’s recordings. Overall OK, but very very safe. 14. He-he, ABBA. I hate ABBA. But this is charming, if not particularly noteworthy otherwise. Nate, thanks for an interesting BFT, that will elad to at least one purchase (track 9).
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ubu, have you had a chance to hear this one by chance? I am very curious. I think Wertmueller is a perfect drummer for Broetzmann, and having an added distorted GUITARRRRRRRRRRR in the mix... what could be better?
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8th Harmonic Breakdown label is reissuing 2CD Billy Bang set called Sweet Spece / Untitled Gift. With DOn Cherry, Butch Morris, WIlber Morris, Frank Lowe, Denis Charles, Steve McCall and others. Recorded in '79 and '82.
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The guitar playing is the most "traditional" you can possibly imagine, no distortion, feedback or whatever. In general, the whole disc is not particularly out. It is pretty raw and I suspect quite under-rehearsed; the solos are good but not outstanding, except for Moondoc's, Swell's (the second trombonist is pretty awkward, IMO), and tenorist's; the arrangements are also a bit sloppy - but it is all more than compensated by a nearly palpable feeling of excitement and energy. Good stuff. For Moondoc on Eremite, I woud highly, HIGHLY recommend (more like insist) Revolt of Negro Lawn Jockeys - for a long time it was one of my favorite "jazz" discs of recent years.
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