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The only drag about that Willie Nelson CD is the title, Two MEN with the Blues. Stiff. Two GUYS, at least. Too bad they couln't pull off Two Jews Blues, Willie with long beard and all. Hey Allen, who made that, for real? Andy Statman and?

I liked Fry and Laurie, though. And Bertie and Wooster. But I agree that non-musians making recordings b\c they can is annoying. Almost worth getting pissed over. Oh well, like Bialystock told Bloom: 'if you got it, FLAUNT it...

One thing, KH: they were giving that CD as a WBGO FM gift for subcribng. Asses hn seats. Checks maf. WTF, beats the alterative..

The World's Foremost Authority...

Feelin' ya, dog. Would that I COULD sleep what with 13-hour shifts and everything else I gotta do, including show my mug on the scene and keep my phoney-baloney chops. I'm sure you can relate. Brin4ng it back to the theme of it being good if a musician or any person makes it. It gives me hope. So let's stick together. And beat up the f-ing Irish. The Foremost Authority...

Yeah- I'm cmfused. And tired. And limited to a cell sn I can't see the board. So if I misattribute it's b/c I can't see the whole board or scroll down enough to answer directly. So I guess more than one apology is due. Yeah, to Chuck too. Aw, hell, the Irish too. That's HEDLEY Lamarr...I'm still unsure who wrote that I feed off the board to the detriment of others' happiness or they even meant me, but they sure did one hell of a job making SOMEBODY feel like dogshit. This is getting confusing and off-topic. I wonder what good will come from it. Allen and a few others deserve kudos for resisting the mudbath and having an actual meaningful discussion. I may have come on strong but no point repeated why my hackles were raised. Old news and let's go forward, not back. Now, er, where were we asshole, er, I mean Chuck...(; (is he laughing or going for the tomahawk?)

Chuck: you gave your opinion of me and I of you. Saying I feed on this place to the detrhment of others you speak for yourself, and poorly. And consistently, unforunately for me. I was being polite before, but I find your comments on this board and in particular toward me an obnoxious, negative, above-it-all bore. So as not to bore everyone else I hereby will do what I should have long ago: ignore you and the dark cloud you seem to enjoy bringing my way. It's not worth the aggravation. And I apologize deeply to everyone else for having to view such stupidity.

Shit. Sorry about all the typos. But I'm operating on a cell phone. And very few brain cells. Anyway, would someone be willing to write a respectful protest letter to WM and sign it? An open letter to Downbeat? NYT? I would respect that. FWIW the first times I met both Wynton and Stanley Crouch, that other O fave, I told them to their faces, and I quote 'I talked a lot of shit about you'. Wynton's reaction: a smile and 'that's cool' He talked plenty of shit in his day too, but had to respect a guy for telling him to his face. Stanley's exact words: 'I guess ynu called 'em like you saw 'em. Exactly. That's why I like him and vice-versa. If jazz musicians and supporters are a family, and I believe we are, if you have a beef and tell the family member to their face the beef they may hate or resent you temporarily or even permanently. But they'd HAVE to respect you. Speaking of truth: I met WM twice. I doubt he'd remember me except by face. Stanley and I are friendly and like each other. And O rocks! Word!

Aggie: I was speaking very specifically AND namf namer. If the shoe doesn't fit why worry? But if it does... Anyway I didn't start the thread, just reacted and called it like I saw it. Last I looked minority opinions were allowed in the US and desirable for healthy debate. People have often pointed out my many fkaws. When right they did me a big favor. I confronted the people I thought wrong directly by name. Jin can handle it and is always gracious and good-humored. Chuck is a big boy and a big friend to jazz. He's gotten in my face before. I lived and I wager he will too. I hide from nobody anonymously on the web, me, Joel Fass of Brooklyn, NY. Nor do I ask anyone to take my truth for their own. But I see on the web lots of 'brave' chin music, critical of noted people, usually anonymously posted when the person in question cannot defend him or herself. Good and kind sir, I ask you: what is Not Cowardly about that?

Dr's appointments? Don't know, man. But, shit, if it was ME I'd take the trumpet and run like a thief (;

[quote name='Noj' I don't get what he's so mad about.

Hey, er doctor: I'm SEEIN' DOUBLE!! (Not a bad blues title, actually: 'I'm SEEIN' DOUBLE'...)

It's nice how the ship righted itself into a righteous blues chat we all can learn from. Next time I'll be more patient and not butt in. For now (grabs noserag, sobs tears of joy) I'M SOOO PROUD OF YIZ!!! Old people. We get emotional...(; It's nice how the ship righted itself into a righteous blues chat we all can learn from. Next time I'll be more patient and not butt in. For now (grabs noserag, sobs tears of joy) I'M SOOO PROUD OF YIZ!!! Old people. We get emotional...(;

Valerie: To me it has a lot to do with it. Mostly b/c if this jazz is true I'd like to know how it got so off the track from what he was about. I do know that going way back everyone using any of the spaces had to pay for them b/c the heating bill alone for a building that size is nuts. Barry paid, people still pay. When I played for the singers then the only way they could make costs and pay the trio of me, Billy Kaye or Kalil Madi, and different bassists was to charge singers I think $10 or $15 per. We didn:t get paid that well and and they definitely were making nada. But it was good for the singers and us too b/c we had to play all their tunes in all kinds of keys. We're supposed to know that. Anyway, that was Mohammed's thing, giving people a platform and a little bread for the band. I don't know what happened since he passed away and this is troubling to read. I wasn't there and haven't been in some years. But I have a feeling this was a misundesstanding among nerve-jangled poor folks. And a damn shame.

I like Dave Tarras. He came and gave lessons to my friend Mike down the block in Canarsie. Kenny Burrell and Joe Pass play like humanitarians--people-lovers. Peter Green is a MF.I love The Band. Soul all the way and great songwriters. Shoot me. And that's all the, um, COIOCH I got tonight. Up at 4 as the struggle continues...

Chuck: I never said YOU had no balls. You got plenty. Drive-by sarcasm justs gets to me b/c it's a tease. You're a hero, if anything, to me for going to bat for real jazz with all going against it. But to be honest I've come to view you--on this board, the only place I know you--as a bit of a shooter-downer. I've grown to worry that if I start a topic is this guy gonna zing me again? To the point of considering putting you on ignore. THAT much. I admit I'm too sensitive. We're adults here and I'm as much an asshole as anyone--at least. But maybe getting it out and off before moving on is a good thing. Especially if the people are good.

Here's a possible cover photo, It almost looks like one of those great Pete Turner shots that CTI used to such good effect, but on closer examination, it's perfect for the theme of "keep getting up". Hell, there's your album title right there - Keep Getting Up. Already got a title and a humorous cover concept. Thanks, though. And thanks for taking what I said before like a man. You MFs are killing me. I like y'all so much I'll 'lay around and stay around' and never DO shit. If you guys really like tell me to stay the f away and go make the CD and book. I swear, this like quitting smoking. You just want 'one last one'...

Not going anywhere, Jazzbo. Just calling myself out and trying to figure out how to best use my remaing years and talents to do a little good. Maybe bring a little beauty and goodwill into a fucked up world while living in relative comfort. I can laugh at jealous amateurs and failed wannabes. Actual musicians fighting like rats or children makes me ill. I come from a fractious, tragedy-touched family. Music is a refuge. No way I want or will sit through a 2nd act. I've watched musicians I've loved blow themselves up over BS like this. That's stupid and selfish b/c the world needs their beauty. I hope to make a recording soon with original and covered songs on the theme of disappointed Romantics who nonetheless keep getting up. That and a book on the musicians who raised me, their generosity, and invisibility to whore sbribes will take all the time not spent working days and will make a more useful statement than I could to the 'converted' here. Sorry I went off but I'm tired. And, hey. I'm a Jew. We're noisy.

I have no aggression toward you, Clifford. Sorry if it came off like that. That's the problem with web posting. One-dimensional. You know the victim, I knew and was employed by the original owmer. We both stuck up for our friends. Of course I'm sorry your friend got punched, and if I insulted you I apologize. Maybe I took sides too hastily too. I think we should wait for the air to clear and the facts to come in. Don't you?

Pt. 2: ...Where's YOUR record? Maybe if you spent a little less time on the Web, especially on bullshit threads like these. At least Allen Lowe writes books, composes, makes recordings he believes in. I'll get them and support him just like I'd order Nessa CDs, despite his pain-in-the-ass kvetching. Swiping at Wynton is like swiping at Obama. If you didn't vote for him (or like his music) it's bigger to wish him godspeed and get past petty jealousy and the feeling that what YOU do or say is more worthy. The man is using fame to work overtime to make jazz popular again AND discover and train players. Oh, he doesn't promote what YOU like? Boo fucking hoo. News flash: LIFE AIN'T FAIR!! Go out and do it yourself. I myself am guilty as anyone and hope to have the discipline talking less and playing/doing more. If I'm around here too much call MY sorry ass out. You'll be doing me a favor. I'm outta here. PM If you care to. 'Write if you get work'.

Pt 1 Not to mince word, you guys are so full of shit with these threads. Great, stay jealous and take easy swipes at them you're jealous of. Real fucking mature and helpful. This is about where you're coming from, at least the way I see it.--NOT the music, good, bad, or indifferent. It's pussy reactions from the safe perch of a forum where more and more people speak with the same pussx voices rathe than get off your asses and DO something, ANYTHING, that might also be subject to public scrutiny/criticism. I held my tongue for a long long time b/c we're basically on the same team and you are good people, jazz people. But: Chuck, fuck your 'drive-bys' You drop a snarky one-liner then get out of Dodge. Have the balls to stay and debate, or at least SAY something of substance. You did this when I put something up about making jazz popular again. To keep the peace, and b'c you're a mensch who produces good jazz I didn't answer, but I didn't appreciate it and, again, it took no balls. Jim, you're also a good guy.

WKCR FM is my favorite, with a gulf between it and any pretender IMO. But today I broke down and pledged $50, a lot for a broke-ass like myself, to WBGO, Newark. B/c Rhonda Hamilton knows her stuff. The morning guy, Gary Walker, ain't bad either. And just because. Maybe it's that Phill schaap isn't on BGO. I mean we have to accept our small victories.

What, and not the Irish, Allan? What a prince...(; What, no Irish, Allen? What a prince...(:

Well, I know a Norm Goode and a Saul Goodman. Maybe they'll get together and make an ass of themselves. Old joke, ladies and Germans...Anyway, it just proves a Goodman is, er, hard to find. Turn that last one around and you get...XAVIERA HOLLANDER!! (cue band...and....blackout...).

For us to both laugh and for me to apologize and shut the fuck up? Actuallx, I figured that bit risky b/c of our ages, but WTF. I laugh at everything, me most of all. I was inspired and went for it. No harm done, I hope...