Mr. Bassman

The highets temperature for today was about 21 degrees (on my balcony in the sun) and now (it's dark outside 19.17 local time) it shows still 14 degrees (all Celsius), that is more like May not November.

I try to be as precise as i can be with the information that is in the booklet. In the tracklisting they wrote: "Master unissued on 78 rpm" and the record date is Januar, 19th 1938. In the liner notes they tell us the nice story with the time capsule of 1939, where a copy of the vocalion version was placed in this box, which has to be opend in the year 5000. And the author says: "...a copy of the original Vocalion record of "the flat foot floogie" (included here) was placed.... " For me this sound like... they have used a Vocalion session, which was not issued on 78rpm in the old days. Maybe another point (it was mentioned in the discussion) will or might support this. I quote the following from the notes: "...And, as if by magic, Gaillard sold a nonsense ditty he'd written, "The Flat-Fleet Floozie (with the Floy Floy)", to a publisher and recorded it for Vocalion--but not before executives got him to doctor the title, recasting the slightly raffish "Floozie" as "Floogie"...." I think, we can all hear, what they sing.... I hope, this can be helpful. Maybe someone knows more than me, i have only this liner notes.

... floy-hoy... floy-hoy ... ...i can't wait for it with regards Mr. Bassman Actually, I should have said that that was the first time I've heard the original. I have only seen them do it on film. So thank you Mr B. MG But i have to thank mikeweil, because he is the real source for this version. He invited me to S&S! The liner notes of the package state, that this version was unissued on a 78-rpm record. and here something for all of you... who can withstand these gentlemen ???

Yeah, and it reminds me to the old days of fortran-programming or "Spaghetti-Basic" Never did Fortran, but spaghetti basic was a speciality of the house! MG

Yes, you got it! Do you know the whole thing, there are two discs related to this project. I have them both. ... and ... Here in my hometown there is sunshine, too. and i am wearing a T-shirt !

... floy-hoy... floy-hoy ... ...i can't wait for it with regards Mr. Bassman

Thank you for that, MG, okay, then i am pacified. They work properly now I haven't tested it for the upper limit, i have the suspicion that #10 is a critical number. We had a 9er quote in one of these discussion-posts and they work. When we take 15 quotes into a post, then i have to use the colored-letter-quote-system. Ah, now it is clear. Well then, #2 exists as a peace for 5 and if i listen to both versions, i can imagine, what you mean, but as it is a modern thing, it may be not that likeable to you either (okay, i presume this). #3 is played by younger musicians (compared to me) and #5 is difficult to explain... at this state of progress in the discussion about CD#2, but I will return to this or someone of our participiants will recognize it. Ah, this makes sense now for me.... this take here is a live performance of that tune and there exists a studio recording, too (which is shorter, maybe half of the time), but my old cassette-tape with that recording is nearly ruined, it howls like a wulf. This live-performance is taken from a vinyl one (but there must be a CD, too). This tune is surely in our today-imagination/reception too long, that was my impression too, when i prepared the BFT. But then, i don't wanted to shorten it or put a fading .... The bass-solo is naturally the matter for the BFT and this recording has a special meaning for me. Okay, there can be more than one reason for that. He takes a special harmonisation of his own, changes the core-melody, maybe there are too much effects in it (chorus, flanger, reverb or whatever) and the instrument itself may cause this, too. Playing is not that easy... and the flubbing-factor is not low.... but as he is a very accurate player, if you have the time and the delight, to note the timing, i will keep an eye ... eh.. ear on it ! with regards Mr. Bassman

New update on the receiving ... there are still 5 on the way !

No, sorry, but.... it is in there, i checked it (easy for me ), even with a review. Come on.... not that difficult with regards Mr. Bassman

Thanks you and I wait for your comments and guesses !

No, he didn't sign in.... and i haven't asked him yet.

Yeah, and it reminds me to the old days of fortran-programming or "Spaghetti-Basic"

Thank you for that nice statements. I hope it was not that painful ??? And here are the comments (... again the blue-letter-quotation-System) BFT 42 DISC 2 I have nothing to add, it is wonderful, indeed! ... aah! an interesting point ! Sure, this is the bass-only performance... but... this tune was originally recorded as a tune for 5 ! ... maybe this is a hint ??? ... but the Leader is not the sax-player. The rhythm refers to the home-country. It seems to me, you like the ending most in this tune Never had the idea with George Benson, but i can follow you! Yes there is some GBism in this tune. But the liner notes of this recording say nothing, only names, tunes and some dates. To me this album is very delightful, it was difficult to choose the title for the BFT. But the tunes are not all that "hymnical". There is a wide spectrum of modern music. I checked the Label... it seems to be out of print Hmmmm. If you don't know that tune in the original version, it is very difficult to say anything specific. Maybe this one is too special ??? And i don't understand the last sentence, i can only try to guess, what you mean, my english is not very welltrained, sorry for that. Do you mean another title form that band would be more enjoyable ??? Please forgive me, but i am puzzled. Nice statement. Never thought that this would make it into the dancefloors. I showed a big grin, when i read this one for the first time. .... it's as miserable as sin ... i will keep this in my dictionary, i like it ! .... okay, back to work ... there is no synthesiser, and no indian instrument.... and i had the chance to listen to a whole concert of this.... yes, I am a bass-maniac I can't tell anything specific at this state of the discussion. Well, there is no link to Pharoah at all. Ahhh, this is a good one !!! As you can read in Nates statements, he already gets a bit of it. It is no film music, but the main theme of that "thing" has some relations to film.... and TV-series ... and literature (some sort of) and.... and at least.... there is a connection to BFT#42 You often visit the dancefloors ??? Well, there is a lot of traditional instruments in this melange, maybe not the best recording the bass-player did... but i had to introduce him to you, you say it... he is a killer! Yes, it's a Strauß-medley, but a very special.... it is a hommage to an instrument (can you guess, which??) I like this tune very much and it was a kind of a must for Mr. Bassman's BFT. Okay, you have entered the special theme-part in this BFT.... much too long soloing ? hmmmm.. Those were the days back in the XXXies I enjoy your statement a lot, but they are not the same band, it is nearly the same time-period. The audience is very enthusiastic, it was a real highlight !!! And... there is a kind of a connection to #13 of CD1 .... trombone playing.... and .... there is a connection to #5 of this CD. Hope, you enjoyed the tea after that.... I think, this was not that painful like #12 or #13 ? Can you remember the song ? Maybe it is difficult, if you are not involved in some kind of pop-music. I know, this one is nearly beyond the jazz-borders for a BFT.... but there is a reason (for me) to put this on the CD. Beside the 10p.... this group lasted not very long. As this BFT is ahead of the December/christmas BFT, i took this one as a closing tune.... but there is still the relationship to the special theme... inaccurately.... hmmm, can you specify this a bit more ? Hmmm, was it that annoying ??? with regards Mr. Bassman

That is fine, I wish you a happy listening !

The "I do not get this" remark referred to the fact that my second post worked OK with the quotes, but the first didn't. I split the post to see if having fewer quotes worked OK, but it didn't. Then it did. So I still don't get it. (Where's the smiley of someone tearing out their hair at the machinery?) MG This one should work in the proper way !

Okay, accepted. but i think, there is an audience even for that type of music. In a John MacEnroe way i would say: "The ball was in" The "I do not get this" remark referred to the fact that my second post worked OK with the quotes, but the first didn't. I split the post to see if having fewer quotes worked OK, but it didn't. Then it did. So I still don't get it. (Where's the smiley of someone tearing out their hair at the machinery?) MG

Aha, the violinist has dropped his mask . But there are still credits to earn

I am deeply impressed, never thought that someone will catch this one that quick ! It is one of these Klaus König discs, but it is the only one, that i possess. As there is still a lot of time and some people haven't got their packages yet, I will not unveil, which one, so they can try.... Thanks for the explanation of Blandsville, i was not sure, what you meant, now i understand. But i like that #7 very much, #4 is not that a fav, but there is a reason (ha-ha) putting this one into the BFT. When i selected the tracks, i wanted to create a good mix and a lot of fav. things were not choosen, because everyone knows them. And sometimes there is a bit of a personal relationship to a musician and i wanted just to introduce him or her here in this fine circle of jazz-lovers (this counts for that track#4). Maybe this is an excuse for the more bland ones. But it is personal view, indeed, i liked it and i thought it is a good example for a piece of calm music in front of some "other" things, that happen later on this CD. Referring to the title.... it is a nice interpretation of that, what the title says. But i don't try to convince you

Not that bad Yes, knowing the label is half the way !

Slim was a kind of a multi-instrumentalist, he plays the vibes. Maybe that a slang-word needs some slang pronounciation.... An Ornette tune ??? Maybe inspired of his music, but this musicians is quoting himself! In a way... What should i say... hmmmm, the architecture of this tune was a main reason for choosing this one. The solos are for the personal taste . But any clue, what this is about and who this might be ? I don't understand exactly what you mean with Blandsville... is this the tune and your impression of the music or is it the fact, that you don't have any idea. I want to be sure, that i understand you in the right way. As long as you are in the guessing process, there is not much to say. The tuba-solo .... from my point of view and knowledge.... this can be the beginning of a red thread (like in the minotaurus-story) to the goal.... The latin-Jazz-context is a bit for the disturbancy-factor... but also to the solution. Is the tune familiar, do you recognize it ? Yes, the culturs meet in this tune, but not Michael White. Maybe the singers will say that vice versa ? No guitar here Well, Mr. Bassman is very fond of bass-playing yeeees.... multiple basses, that's not bad! Pop-tune ? which one do you have in mind ? Jazzy chamber music ? Really ??? This could be ride on the ice rink! This tune is not that fair, please forgive me, but i liked it and it is "bassy" Well, there are some points to be distributed! This is Simon Nabatov!!! Well done ! And... it is part of a longer suite. And.... there is a twisted connection to the BFT#42 ! Maybe the hint in this statement is more disturbing, but there is one! And.... that leads a "big" (not a little...) bit to the overall-theme of this BFT ! (beside the tunes 12-16 on this CD#2) with regards Mr. Bassman

Maybe a typing error? He is not a dutchman, another european country with a "d" indeed Yes, one has to listen carefully to the bass-line to recognize this flubbing. I would be proud of myself, if my flubbings are like that. but beside the flubbing... this is a really nice tune and CC is a great singer for me, and I am normally not very interested in singers. Mikeweil gives me a good lesson. On the other hand... OP is one of my fav. bass-players. As i said in another posting, The sound on this recording is like the sound was, when they play in front of the audience. The bass-player used a "not-that-good" pickup, although this could be a famous bass-instrument (if he used that one i have in mind, during the recording-session). There is a nice story about this musician and one of his instruments. I will tell in the answers thread. I am nearly sure, that there is a normal piano and not a grand in the studio (but this is only a guess, there is no confirmation to this). The recording is made really in the 1980ies, i can confirmed this. Maybe they wanted this 50ies sound in case of a recommendation to that time-period and the music. The title of this tune seem to lead in that direction. Okay, I get it. well, this tune here in the BFT goes in that direction, i can follow your statement... but i like Bill Evans on piano a lot and he touches me several times. I know "the third man" and i like the film. I can imagine, that the tune here can go to that impression, but, as i know the title and the original-thing, it is a bit joking for me, to put that one in a spy-film. The other films you mentioned i actually can't remember, but i will look forward to them. I think, you will have a smile, when the answer is posted. Yes, there can be some Mabernisms in the playing, and it can be, that you have really heard that one, but in a total different way, I am nearly sure. And a little info.... the piano player is not the original composer. The whole disc is about a very special composer, sometimes, the original is very hard to recognize, i think you will like the rest of it either, but there are some more modern aspects in the other interpretations. I still have no true confirmation from a written source, but i think there is no electronic effect, beside the microphone. It seems to be the same technique, that Albert Mangelsdorff has developed in his trombone-playing. Okay, accepted. but i think, there is an audience even for that type of music. In a John MacEnroe way i would say: "The ball was in" Now i will see, what the quotation-machine does in that case..... with regards Mr. Bassman added later: Ah, my posting overlapped with mikeweil.... but i leave mine without editing it.

Ah, you have the #44! I think, i will be in it. Then my brain has to work hard and i will need the luck! What do you mean , when you mention the difficulty, is it too difficult or is there no useful information out there in the web ? I didn't get the point. Yes, and... a clap from me either for the track #1

What a luck for me today, that there is no rehearsal. So I have some time for you, this one is to The Magnificent Goldberg and his statements. To the problem with the quotation... there is really an upper limit (about 10 or something) for the quotations in one post. I had the suspicion, that there is one, and rockefeller center got the prove (he tested it). Therefore i use the "colored letter"- quotation-System BFT 42 DISC 1 hmmmm... the words are not german, aren't they? But it is a nice wordgame indeed. And you are absolutely right, it is a nice opener. I like this very much, the bass player follows the words for example the piece with the low tone.... He did not really miss the note... it is to be heard some bars in front of that line (my impression), and i believe she improvised it (actually I want to believe this, because it is that nice). AFAIK OP liked this kind of a solution, normally he would never give his okay to release that on a record. For me it ia a sign of humanity in music.... to flubb a note and receive that nice reaction. But if the whole was worked out.... it is a nice thing either.... for all of us musicians, who flubbed or will flubb a note (or two maybe three....) Yes, a live performance, not a german band. The stubborn Tjobbe has cracked the main thing, but there are still credits to earn.... this tune was not arranged by the main arranger.... this "problem" is still to be solved. Well, this is an unsolved tune too, and it is not Joe Temperley. I think, the source is very hard to find, but i thought this is a very nice tune for a BFT. Okay, i'll give a whiff of information, this is not a familiar jazz-standard. It is a tune composed by the bass-player. Well the sound is really a bit strange, but no 40ies. and normally the label is wellknown for a good sound !!!! They have a kind of a sound-reference .... LPs, i mean the vinyl-things, but this is actually from the CD. No, these musicians are not to be heard. But it was unveiled very early by Nate Dorward. Interesting impression, do you mean the piano-Bill or the Sax-Bill of the two "big" Bills we have in the Evans-"family" ? (Yes, I know.... they are no relatives). Sometimes I have a similar impression, when i listen to this recording. It is well composed, the musicians try their best, but it didn't reach the heart.... But a good stuff for a BFT, I don't think, that this will be recognized (.... I appeal to your "sportmenship" .... ready .. steady.. GO ). No, it is not cherokee nor Lionel, but the player likes him.... i will check if there is a relationship between them.... i will post it, if i find something. Okay... the german participiants already know for sure, who they are. This is a very special record. The piano-player is not Hines nor Tatum. For more confusion.... it was recorded in the 1980ies and the same label as take#5 . Now, you nedd to know which label and then... up for a katalog or a listing. How do you like this, anyway ? Or where are the dislikes, can they be put into words ? actually no film-music, but i would watch yours I am not allowed to give any hints at this moment. Listen carefully again.... are there that much musicians ? What you say about the technical aspects... yes they have great technical skills, but not only. Sometimes they give clinics to music-students (i think i read that and remember that right), maybe one can hear this in this performance. No, it is not Mabern. What can you say to the title ? What seems to be familiar ? And... do you like this one ? Ohh, you dislike this ???? But you put the finger on an interesting point.... i must check about that "electric trombone".... I think, there is no artificial effect in this. We will see.... Okay, accepted. But what disturbes you, are there any specific things or is it an overall ? Hmmmm... I did not expect, that take 15 is that difficult and nobody has an idea, who this is. The composers are unveiled, but not the performer. And it is not a Christmas carol. A little disturbancy ???? One of the composers is a jazz-musician, really!! Tjobbe can confirm this without any doubt, can you ? Thank you for that. Maybe i will register for another one with regards Mr. Bassman

Hmmm, but yours was sent with the others, i hope you will receive it soon. But there are some others of round #1, who haven't got their package. The secrets of the post-offices will never be unveiled.

Unfortunately I am very busy this week so I can only get to listening to the discs and taking down notes on the weekend, or Friday perhaps. No stress-making at all ! You can enter your notes when you have the time, we just started the discussion and, as far i have received the reposts, there are still some packages on the way to the participients.