Mr. Bassman

For a small sidestep .... The "Lightnin'" from Klaus Weiss was an outtake in BFT #42.... but I can recommend this, too.... in case of the Mintzer BigBand-recordings. I was not thinking that far, when i noticed this thread. with regards Mr. Bassman

Okay, but when you mend your black hole, there are several CDs with the UK and DF-Duo and some very impressive solo-CDs, I think, Nate can recommend another (or some other) recording(s) of UK. with regards Mr. Bassman

I know ... it is a 1795er by N. Guinot.

Me and my advices .... Yes ..... but, for some smilings, i thought that you would recognize it without the help *duckandhide* with regards Mr. Bassman

I have another recording from the DMP-time with this big-band. It is called Urban Contours and the sound is typical for dmp-records, very impressive and great dynamics. I bought this shortly after the release date, because someone recommended this. The music on this CD shows a strong relationsship to groove and some funky ideas. I liked (and like) this one, because they sound modern to my ears in those days. I was not very introduced to BigBand-Music in those times (and there is a lot uncharted land in this theme for me...)... and this Bob Mintzer was that much different to the things i normally combinded to BigBand-Music in those times (well it was 1989/90). And there was another point of view to this CD: I used this as a kind of reference for sound recording, when we had some listening-sessions. The music "jumped" out of the speakers directly to your ears with that strong, crisp and clear sound. Well... today we are more used to that sound, but in those days it was a real exciting experience! Maybe this link can be useful for Bob Mintzer (he did a lot of dmp-recordings...) and to the dmp-recordings, too: http://www.dmprecords.com/index.html . I have soem other dmp-CDs in my collection, if there is some interest, i can select them and give you some impressions. with regards Mr. Bassman

I know Helmut "Joe" Sachse not very much and i have no recording from Doppelmoppel. I remember some radio-broadcasting some time ago. Maybe there is a bit of music with Joe waiting on the tapes.... I think about some airplay with Baby Sommer .... can't remember by heart. Back to the BFT... it is easyly to hear, that there is no Joe Sachse on this track .... Kropinski has a special connection to some other musician. This one is not reveiled yet. Okay, mikeweil knows it... because he "ordered" me to put something into this BFT. ... and he is not very pleased.... because he knows something about the instruments of this musician. with regards Mr. Bassman

... i talked to mikeweil about the after-the-gig-ceremonies.... and he invited me to this thread... at first, after stowing away the instruments etc. there is a "have-a-drink" phase, normally mineral water, then it will be followed by the "fridge"-phase for a snack and then a visit to the bathroom. The next phase is "coming-down"... reading newspapers or reading in a book, which waits for me at the cupboard beside the bed, sometimes a bit INet. In rare situations there will be a stop at the whisky-bar and a fine dram closes a fine concert (... or works for the "musicians-food-problems" ....).... but, the last saturday was different..... as I am in this BFT-thing here at organissimo ..., the first after-hour-relaxation-thing was reading the new postings there and... writing some answers. Then there was the normal process... but no whisky at this time, because the sound on stage was THAT perfect ..... and sleeping-phase after that was very short... the next day there was a trip to Hamburg on the scedule... drink & drive is not my hobby with regards Mr. Bassman

... i just returned from a gig with mikeweil and the other friends, who don't share this list.... in a few hours there is the next trip to Hamburg (600km one-way...), but.... here are the comments, I can't go to bed... i have to answer this before... Well, Nate, i got your message and i picked the quotes... Okay. Hey ! Here we go..... the guitar player is recognized! Well done.... even the percussion-thing is right. It is the guitar as a percussion-instrument... and we have no overdubs at all. But there is still something missing.... maybe another percussion-specialist ??? I think, it is not a Jazz-standard in the normal sense.... but they perform it as a "maybe"... it is another kind of "Standard", german people should be able to recognize this one ( the original composer is a "well-known" one in Germany, ... maybe not the Jazz-people ).... Okay, there is somewhat "familiar" in the playing etc., but as they are more the younger guys they will still have some time for a development. I can imagine, that you will like some other works of these musicians, they are somewhat a working band and they know each other for a while. I can confirm, that the bass-player is the leader here. They do sometimes unexpected or somewhat surprising things. Interesting point... beside it is not Ehrlich, but the folk-music is a clue to this. These people have a strong relationship to the folk-music of their own. I have to give a funny clue.... i got this record as a "try-for-fun" from ebay.... nobody was bedding against me.... so i got this one.... and was pleased to listen to their recording. Sometimes there are very strang ways.... Well, it is not that "giant step", but it is not that bad ! Oh... no Africa at all ! Maybe in a hidden way ??? VERY hidden... Okay, i give some clues.... this bass-player is a famous one (hopefully ???) and this tune is well-known .... ehhh .... children will recognize this one more easyly.... i guess... more the girls even the older girls, because it is not a creation of our days, it has some age..... but... this tune is not a folk-tune, it sounds like, but it was composed..... by Jazz-musicians! Can this help a little ? with regards Mr. Bassman

I am sorry, no. There is no Patitucci in this BFT.... but he was on the "out"-list .... maybe he will join in 2008 The bass-player of #2 is a member of the modern jazz community and has published a bunch of recordings... maybe this special CD is not that well-known or a rare one. In comparison to Patitucci... he is not that involved in the electric-bass, maybe this is a little help ? Another one... he plays sometimes another stringed instrument.

new update... there are 4 missing now .... or .... no receive-message to me.....

No problem at all.... you can give your comments and impressions at any time.

something like this !!!

Hi Andrew, thanks for the response Okay, now i understand. This song was composed for a quintett and there is a CD with that Version. This one in the BFT is the solo-adaption of this song. It is very interesting, that some people feel, in this solo-performance is something missing. One can "hear" that this tune is not "complete". Okay, it is a modern jazz-tune... maybe the original recording of the quintett is not that fun at all..... but in this solo-performance, you can "hear" the missing parts and musicians. Yes, it is really a sort of unique sound. If someone listened to this sound for a first time and is introduced to him, he will (mostly) recognize the bass-player on other CDs, too. with regards Mr. Bassman

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... and here are the comments... i think i have to give a lot of credits here , but it is a homeplay for mikeweil Oh... a few marks are still on the map! Die hast du mir bis jetzt vorenthalten.... Schuft ! Yeah, I think everybody knows it now Tune is not from Ornette. Is Dave Holland a real guess and shall i say something to this or is Dave Holland just a kind of "shooting-into- the-blue"? To the virtuosity-theme... if this is music, it is okay, but if it is not, I call it sports but this is no sports at all. Ah! Another lover of this ending. Tricky music, eh??? I didn't counted it, because you are much better in this and... well, any idea of a geographical aspect ? No, wrong track choosen, no Lloyd and no Shepp. And yes, it is a nice story. This was a CD with some dust on the case.... Sometimes it is not that bad for the collection to do a BFT ! Yes, i was sure you would recognize this, we had some of this in one of our listening-evenings ! As you recognized the tune.... what is the remarkable thing in this version ? And it is a Tuba not a bass-trombone. Yes, not quite a night in Tunesia As you have this record.... you can imagine, why this is here ... and why it has track #6 You had this CD some months ago to listen to it. But it is not overdubbing ! It is a bit different. He performed this stuff in a concert. I took a lightweight-take, thats right. He.. he.. you allready know, who this is Hmmmm, it is not a oriental band, but there are several different musicians in this, from different countries and cultures. The bassist is the Leader here, thats right. Hey... it is Mr. Bassman BFT The CD of this gentleman is sometimes difficult: a bit too much crowd playing together and it is hard to listen to this stuff, because it it that complex and "full". But there exist other works, too ... with a smaller crowd. But interesting, isn't it ? We had this in one of our first listening-evenings.... Well... it is a hommage to an instrument.... and the title of this tune states this perfect... now... guess or search Oh-oh! ... step by step.... not a Jaco tune.... Not a tribute... I know, what you mean, but not this one. Cobham-likes.... Cobham or not.... make a decision .... not Havana Jam .... and now... Alphonso or Jaco ?? Somewhat difficult to tell, well it is AM indeed, but not the late one.... and your wild guesses are not that bad. Ohhhh, i like BFT Well, the original tune is a pop-music-classic, maybe that causes the lightweight-factor. Well.... i think you have heard this bass-player live ( maybe an error, but i think you have seen him... ). I think, you know, why this tune is in here, we talked about the special theme some weeks ago Not weberhard ! Thanks! Now it's time for a short sleep... tomorrow we will be on the road....

I know this syndrom very well. And now i want to add, why this is in here... because i have the #42 BFT!!!... it was obvious to take a track from the "hitchhikers guide to the universe"... the track "deep thought" (The source of "42") was much too long, so i decided, "Arthur Dent" will do it. For all the people, not knowing Douglas Adams and his nice work, it is a bit difficult to follow, maybe i will add a short version in the answer-thread. with regards Mr. Bassman

... just returned from the gig this evening... and risked an eye before i go to bed... ahhhh ! some work to do Yes, Gil Evans. I was somewhat surprised, that he worked on this tune, but i don't have another recording, is there one published ? MG stated in the booklet, that he only adapted it for this project. with regards Mr. Bassman

No, it is not Ernie Fields jr. The person is not that connected to this kind of stuff. So i was surprised, when i read it in the booklet. Giving a clue... the person worked some times ago with a trumpet player and together they realized some fine stuff (well... to me). The arranger is well-known and released a lot using his own name.... with regards Mr. Bassman

Okay, it's the central commentator again.... Okay. I will add mine seperately No TV or film... but it sounds a bit pictoral Not that easy... no, but can you recognize the tune ? Nobody recognizes this one... hmmm... In this case... not turkish ... well guessed Really ? This would be a surprise to me, but it could be, theoretically. Maybe it sounds familiar, because the composer had something in mind. Great idea, an anti-birthday-celebration tune. No Mozart, surely. Strauss has some great connection to this. But the tune is a hommage to an instrument..... If i remember that right... Sting was still connected somewhat to Eberhard Schöner in those days, Police was still not in sight But it is a live recording, any idea ? Uhhhh, not a bootleg at all !!! A famous recording, actually life. And it is JP ! No Mr. Ilg at all. And... not the right title You like that ? I have done no mixing, i adapted only some output-levels of a few tunes. It sounded a bit weired... the Ballad loud and the high-energy-tune was somewhat soft. But nothing else, no compressor etc. Sorry about the skipping, i burnt it at low speed, but i hadn't tested all CDs. with regards Mr. Bassman

Hi King Ubu! Thanks for the nice statements Okay, here are the coments, again with the blue-letter-quote-system : This would be too simple ... in a secret way, yes... Yes, the songtitle is correct. The recording is from the 50s - 1956 exactly. The singer is great, I like her very much. The bass-player is mentioned in her text... and this gives you a clue, why this is a very special tune for the bass. Well, GM and his band played that tune, but it was written not by GM. The arranger is still not unveiled. Oh well, I think they are a professional bigband, but to me, I am not that involved in BigBands, they sound great . The lightweight-fun-Factor is on a certain level here, but there is a lot of seriosity in it. Maybe it is the GM-Factor ??? But, okay... it's not Giant steps Yes, this track is really a rare thing to be found. A fine tune, well played and a superb recording, to my ears. Oh-oh... You can't imagine, who they are ? Okay, the sound is not very well, the bass-player uses magnetic pickups on his doublebass, the recording sounds in the way they sound in reality. I can confirm this, because i listened to them in those days.... back in the 80s. They were not that old on the recording day. Well, the drummer is a case of his own.... The bass-player wrote this tune, I am sure, that this tune is not that familiar. Another info to the sound.... the label is well-known for high-class-recording. There is al least another take in the BFT from that label. But in this case, i can get over this sound, i like this tune anyway, but i can understand, that there will be much more pleasure, if the bass-player had used some other amplification... and... the drummer .... is a case on his own. The Tenor-player is a fine musician, i forgot to mention that, and the piano-player a fine accompanist, isn't he ? Interesting, Dave Brubeck is always the first name to be mentioned, when there is an uneven rhythm beside the 3..., but not in this case. Yes, a post Bill Evans-Trio, i like the "glibberish" - description, but it is a fine balladesk tune. It is a debut-album... I am really happy about that enthusiastic statements. One can hear, that there must be a lot of happyness and fun during the record-session. The tune is a hommage to the "old days" if you like. Well, the vibe-ist is noone you have mentioned, but... he likes his Hampton. Weeeelllll, now the big surprise... Tenor is the same musician on #5 ... Yes the ending is a kind of a little hurricane, as they blow nicely together. If you would know, who this is, you would be more polite to his dirtyness ... another info... it is indeed the same label as #5 ! okay, got your point of view. well, what about the violin-player ? You know the tune ? I am nearly sure, you could know this. Yes, it is a post-Evans-Trio. The whole CD is nice, i can recommend this, if you like that. No Anderson on this. Yes, a great band and a nice recording, too. What is your impression about where do they come from ? I can imagine, that there is more stuff played by these musicians, that you will like! Okay, not all musicians are great involvers every day, and sometimes there is some noodling But it is not on the worse side. Not a great work, but nice, indeed. To which place(country) would you put them ? No, this track is not from Ilg.... but there is one in the BFT But back to this tune, it is a nice closer and the song is quite familiar... but it is not a folk-tune, beside it sounds like. And i agree, this is a nice closer for the CD#1 with regards Mr. Bassman

...there are still 5 packages missing Stefan Wood chris Eloe Omoe Hardbopjazz Martyjazz have not responded yet. I hope the ministers or chairmen of all mail-services will read this, to hurry up a bit ! These honest people are waiting for their packages ! Let the whip snap and encourage the horses in front of your mail-service coaches !!! (.. or should i say: "Let the snails jump !" ?? refering to "snailmail" ) with regards Mr. Bassman

Thank you, Andrew. When i listened to some of the BFT-CDs i had the same symptoms. But, when the answers were given, there was always the "clap-on-forehead"-Syndrom, too. Sometimes i possessed the recording by myself but couldn't remember it. But, as you stated, you have fun when you listen to the compilation, and that is a real main aim in BFT (to me). And we all get some new ideas about one of our favourite things ! with regards Mr. Bassman

... here are the remarks to Nate's follow-up remarks to #10-16: Yes, there are some incredients of world-music in this cooking. Some critics had a similar impression on this and there was a bit of disappointment, but there were some more enthusiastic critics, too. And a Bass-player has sometimes "weird ears" I liked this one. But, there are other recordings, maybe they will be more to your enjoyment. The tune is inspired of some classical music... and a hommage to an instrument ... at first a big grin , and the assurement, that this tune refers to the special theme. But there is only one bass-player... and it is a live recording, so... no overdubs. but it's another track ...., have another try Well, the tune has a very simple chord-progression and the performers of this one try to catch that impression. Okay, i have to give hint here.... it is one bass-player here. It is a studio recording and you can imagine... if this is only one bass-player, he did some overdubs. But who is it ? BTW, the song was recognized some posts ago . The bass-clarinet-solo is nice, indeed ! ... and i know, who this is ... some words to the special theme.... as this is only one bass-player, the theme must be something different... Actually, they don't exist any more, and... there is only a drum-machine for BD, HH and crashes, the snare is played by hand from the musician !!!! And a bit overdubs, but they have performed that live (... beside this... i missed the concert... , but was this a shame ??? ... okay it would have been some kind of a party than a serious concert). Ah, another lover of this version of that specific tune, I'm not alone. and some additional things, to this song,... we (my wife, to be precise) have a version of this tune in finnish, sung by a bass-baritone classical singer accompanied by a church-organ with simple register (no wall of sound). This version is quite okay, not that sweet than other interpretations. Well, i selected this tune because it was the shortest on this recording and... next BFT is in December.... with regards Mr. Bassman

Ah, Andrew "dutchmanx" entered his list. Thank you for the nice words and i can see, that you enjoy to listen to the discs. Now, here are my remarks: You can follow the discussion thread here... you can see, it is unveiled, but your impression is absolutely right, it is a opener . How do you like this stuff from the older days ? ... what happens after that ? Can you add some words ? That is interesting, because these two are somewhat different. Maybe you can add some more words? If you have the time... Well, in the old days of world music there was a lot of "try-and-error" Ahhhh ! I can assure you, it is EW! Do you know the recording or was it the impression during the listening-session ? And it is an ECM-work. Now, the album is still unmentioned. Need some homework ??? okay, accepted. Yeah, another credit-point for you, the title is walking on the moon, but i like this one much more. That doesn't mean, that the police version is bad (well, for my ears ). I can understand, but why is this tune in the BFT ? any guesses or ideas ? (to this question... tracks 12-16 belong to the same theme). to the "ok"-remarks i can only say "thats fine" as it seems that you listen to that tunes with a good quantity of enjoying it. with regards Mr. Bassman

At first, MG, thank you very much for this research-work! I'm not that involved into discographic work, but this solves the problem of a first recording of "FFF". This was new for me, that the so-called official first recording was a month later and the one in this compilation delivers the "real" first recording of this tune. Yes, , the first two tracks are in that package. They added a recording No. MX 22321-1 "Oh, Lady be good" from same date and place, "that's what you call romance is not in that compilation. Maybe the pronounciation of "Floogie" during the Februar recording was more precise, just a guess, i can't check that, becouse i don't have that Februar recording (... the so-called original Vocalise release). with regards Mr. Bassman