mikeweil Posted February 9, 2005 Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 Cal Tjader made his very first recordings as a leader for Galaxy, a Fantasy subsidiary, in 1951, after the Dave Brubeck Trio had to disband after the pianist's swimming accident on Hawaii. It seems there were more tracks recorded and issued on Galaxy singles than were reissued on the Fantasy 10" LP 3-9: ____________________________________________________________________ John Marabuto (piano) Jack Weeks (bass) Cal Tjader (vibraphone, drums, bongos) San Francisco, California, August 1951 Ivy Galaxy 702 ?, Fantasy LP 3-9, Fantasy FCD-24764-2 Give Me The Simple Life - - - ____________________________________________________________________ John Marabuto (piano) Jack Weeks (bass) Cal Tjader (vibraphone, drums, bongos) San Francisco, California, September 1951 11141 ? Lullaby of the Leaves Galaxy 705 ?????? Charlie's Quote Galaxy 702, Fantasy LP 3-9, Fantasy FCD-24764-2 11143? These Foolish Things - - - ____________________________________________________________________ Vince Guaraldi (piano) Jack Weeks (bass) Cal Tjader (vibraphone, drums, bongos) San Francisco, California, November 1951 11150 Vibrathrape Galaxy 703, Fantasy LP 3-9, Fantasy FCD-24764-2 11160 Mambo Chopsticks - - - 11170 Lullaby Of The Leaves Galaxy 705 11180 I Want To Be Happy - - - 11164 Three Little Words - - ____________________________________________________________________ My questions are: - are the issue numbers of the Galaxy singles correct? What about the two master numbers for "Lullaby of the Leaves"? Was Galaxy 705 an EP with four tracks? Or released in two different versions? What does the Jepsen disco say? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Fitzgerald Posted February 9, 2005 Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 Here's what Bruyninckx CDROM says: Cal Tjader Trio : John Marabuto (p) Jack Weeks (b) Cal Tjader (d,bgo) San Francisco, CA., September 1951 Charlie's quote Galaxy 702, Fantasy 3-7, FCD24764-2 These foolish things - , - , - Give me the simple life - , - , - Ivy - , - ,- Vince Guaraldi (p) replaces Marabuto, rest same San Francisco, CA., November 1951 11150 Vibratharpe Galaxy 703, Fantasy 3-7, FDC24764-2 11160 Mambo chopsticks - , - , - 11170 Lullaby of the leaves 705, - , - 11180 I want to be happy - , - 11141 Lullaby of the leaves - 11164 Three little words - , - Note : Fantasy FCD24764-2 entitled "Extremes", rest of this CD see September 1977. Here's what the Lord CDROM says: Cal Tjader [T3685-5] Cal Tjader Trio: John Marabuto (p) Jack Weeks (b) Cal Tjader (d,bgo) San Francisco, CA, September, 1951 Charlie's quote Galaxy 702, Fantasy 3-7 These foolish things - - Give me the simple life 701, - Ivy - - Cal Tjader [T3686-5] Vince Guaraldi (p) replaces John Marabuto San Francisco, CA, November, 1951 11150 Vibratharpe Galaxy 703, Fantasy 3-7 11160 Mambo chopsticks - - 11170 Lullaby of the leaves 705, - 11180 I want to be happy - - 11141 Lullaby of the leaves - 11164 Three little words - Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted February 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 Lord again seems to have copied most from Bruyninckx, except for the Galaxy 701 single. Both have the number of the 10" LP as 3-7 . The Fantasy CD reissue gives number 3-9 - I wonder why they ignore this. According to http://jazzlabels.klacto.net/fantasy.html/ 3-7 was a Brubeck Quartet LP - but Bob Coughlin's online Brubeck disco does not have this issue - and I trust him on this. The Klacto site has 3-9 for the Tjader trio. That Galaxy 705 is a strange bird - four tracks - weren't these singles? - and two takes of Lullaby? I smell an error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted February 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 Stereojack is the lucky owner of the Fantasy 10" LP and PM'd me the tracks: Side 1 Ivy Give Me the Simple Life These Foolish Things Charley's Quote Side 2 Chopsticks Mambo Vibra-Tharpe Three Little Words Lullaby of the Leaves The correct LP number is 3-9, as noted on the Fantasy CD reissue, not 3-7! Jepsen seems to have initiated this wrong issue number. Jack also informed me that Jepsen "substitutes I Want to Be Happy for Three Little Words, and omits Ivy altogether." Still I wonder what the two takes of Lullabye mean and why there are four tracks including these two takes listed as issued on Galaxy 705. Two different pressings or an error? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Fitzgerald Posted February 9, 2005 Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 Galaxy 704 was by Vido Musso, apparently. What about 706? I got no info. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted February 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 Galaxy 704 was by Vido Musso, apparently. What about 706? I got no info. Mike I only found 708, by the Apollo's, and numbers higher than 730. I have the info on that Musso session - Tjader played vibes on it. A third track was added for an EP issue in the 4000 series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stereojack Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 Whenever possible, one should inspect the records themselves. Discographers all steal from one another, and if the first guy (or the guy he got it from) makes a mistake, then the mistake is perpetuated. That said, I can provide details about two of the Galaxy 78's, because I have them: Galaxy 702 Charley's Quote (8109) These Foolish Things (8114) Galaxy 703 Vibra-Tharpe (11150) Chopsticks-Mambo (11160) jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Fitzgerald Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 Hear, hear! And it's worth noting that there *are* cases when two people do own copies of the record (with the same catalog #) and there are differences between the two. (Or cases when the item contradicts itself - different titles on the cover, sleeve, label, etc.) But getting connected to the artifacts is vital. Glad that we have this network with vast resources. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted February 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 (edited) Mike, you take the words from my mouth ... Thanks, Jack! Now if we could find someone with a copy of Galaxy 705, master numbers and all ... I doubt the second take of Lullaby and I Want To Be Happy on a Galaxy 705 exist until I get first hand info of a copy somewhere. Tjader recorded Happy for Savoy and with the later Quintet - see the thread on the Fantasy 8019 LP. Edited February 11, 2005 by mikeweil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted February 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 That said, I can provide details about two of the Galaxy 78's, because I have them: Galaxy 702 Charley's Quote (8109) These Foolish Things (8114) Galaxy 703 Vibra-Tharpe (11150) Chopsticks-Mambo (11160) So these are 78's you have? The facsimile of one in the booklet of the Fantasy CD reissue looks like a 7" 45 rpm single. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stereojack Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 So these are 78's you have? The facsimile of one in the booklet of the Fantasy CD reissue looks like a 7" 45 rpm single. Yes, they are 78's. I imagine that they may have also been issued on 45, but in 1951, the 78 was still the dominant format. jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted February 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 So these were first issued on 10" 78 rpm discs and the re-pressed as 7" 45 rpm singles ... maybe they changed takes/tracks for the re-edition of Galaxy 705. Such things happened pretty often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stereojack Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 So these were first issued on 10" 78 rpm discs and the re-pressed as 7" 45 rpm singles ... maybe they changed takes/tracks for the re-edition of Galaxy 705. Such things happened pretty often. Well, yes, anuthing's possible, of course. I lean toward the theory that the discographers goofed. Such things happen pretty often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted October 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 I keep looking for used copies of these 78's on ebay and gemm.com, but that second version of Galaxy 705 never shows up, just all the others .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted October 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 There's a copy of the 78 rpm record Galaxy 705 on eBay: 11141 Lullaby Of The Leaves 11164 Three Little Words So it seems the matrix # 11170 Bruyninckx gives for Lullaby Of The Leaves could be wrong - has he copied this from Jepsen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stereojack Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 There's a copy of the 78 rpm record Galaxy 705 on eBay: 11141 Lullaby Of The Leaves 11164 Three Little Words So it seems the matrix # 11170 Bruyninckx gives for Lullaby Of The Leaves could be wrong - has he copied this from Jepsen? ← I'm sure he did! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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