Brad Posted March 4, 2005 Report Posted March 4, 2005 (edited) For sale, on Blue Note, just released by Water Records, and played only once. $13.00 (including shipping) to a US address. Will ship overseas. Please PM me if interested. Edited March 4, 2005 by Brad Quote
Eric Posted March 5, 2005 Report Posted March 5, 2005 For sale, on Blue Note, just released by Water Records, and played only once. Once was all it took, huh? B-) Quote
Brad Posted March 5, 2005 Author Report Posted March 5, 2005 Yup, it's not what I call hard core grease, it's more rockish and tried to be contemporary. Not what I really cared for. On the other hand, Say It Loud, that's a great release. Quote
Eric Posted March 5, 2005 Report Posted March 5, 2005 (edited) Yup, it's not what I call hard core grease, it's more rockish and tried to be contemporary. Not what I really cared for. On the other hand, Say It Loud, that's a great release. yeah, I got this one too (the McDuff), was hoping it would be closer to Moon Rappin' which is one of the least deep fried McDuff lps, but outstanding nonetheless ... as you suggest, it is a little disappointing ... Edited March 5, 2005 by Eric Quote
Peter Johnson Posted March 5, 2005 Report Posted March 5, 2005 Yup, it's not what I call hard core grease, it's more rockish and tried to be contemporary. Not what I really cared for. On the other hand, Say It Loud, that's a great release. yeah, I got this one too (the McDuff), was hoping it would be closer to Moon Rappin' which is one of the least deep fried McDuff lps, but outstanding nonetheless ... as you suggest, it is a little disappointing ... Now _that's_ a sales job! Just kidding. I actually like this one...although, no, it's not on your typical McDuff tip... Quote
Brad Posted March 5, 2005 Author Report Posted March 5, 2005 Might as well be honest. If there's no interest, i'll try the ebay route where I won't be as forthright. Quote
jazzbo Posted March 5, 2005 Report Posted March 5, 2005 I like the McDuff too, I find ti more New Orleans funk than rock, and it's different. I've gotten to the point that I really appreciate Blue Notes that are DIFFERENT than the formulaic norm. Quote
Brad Posted March 5, 2005 Author Report Posted March 5, 2005 (edited) While I'm sure you meant nothing by it, I kind of object to calling what Blue Note or other labels did formulaic. While BN and other labels did things in a certain way, they didn't always stick to that or reject an idea because it didn't fit into how they wanted to do things. This recording doesn't follow a previous pattern but I don't think it's particularly good either. They're are a lot of rock guitar licks in here that don't find particularly appealing (this is probably not in my $ interest to criticize this recording but $13 one way or the other ain't gonna break the bank) and while Ray Draper's tuba is interesting, with the organ it's a little odd. This was a 1970 recording and at the time the label was starting to go down. This was probably an attempt to rock (not jazz it up ) and I just don't think it works particularly well. There's a reason it stayed in the can. It probably should have stayed there. Edited March 5, 2005 by Brad Quote
Eric Posted March 5, 2005 Report Posted March 5, 2005 (edited) There's a reason it stayed in the can. It probably should have stayed there. But did it? I seem to remember coming across a stupidly high-priced lp of this album a few years ago? Edited March 5, 2005 by Eric Quote
Brad Posted March 6, 2005 Author Report Posted March 6, 2005 There's a reason it stayed in the can. It probably should have stayed there. But did it? I seem to remember coming across a stupidly high-priced lp of this album a few years ago? I meant as a cd. Quote
jazzbo Posted March 6, 2005 Report Posted March 6, 2005 (edited) Brad, I can understand you not liking it and me liking it; there are a number of instances I've noticed you dislike something I do, there you go, nothing wrong with that. There's room enough for what you like and for what I like to be offered for sale. For me it WORKS in a good time New Orleans way. AND I DO think a lot of Blue Notes all through the history of the label were built on a formula: the small group swing formula, the bop and hardbop quintet formula, the soul jazz formula, the organ trio formula. . . . That's cool, but I get TIRED of the formulas more often these days, and something like this release is a nice breath of fresh air. Edited March 6, 2005 by jazzbo Quote
Soul Stream Posted March 6, 2005 Report Posted March 6, 2005 I really love the trilogy of Jack McDuff Blue Notes from this era... Moon Rappin' In Search of a New Land Who Knows What Tommorow Brings I love the vibe. Who Knows is probably my least favorite of the 3. However that said, I still really enjoy it. Would love to see In Search Of A New Land on CD as well. Was actually surprised Water chose Who Knows over it. Although it's certainly worthy as well. To me, this is a very interesting time for jazz hammond organ. The instrument was certainly on the outs and was being replaced rapidly by the electric piano on records and live. Even on these recordings, piano is augmenting the organ. Much like on Groove Holmes "Comin' Home" Blue Note LP from the same time. Still, there's PLENTY of beautiful organ playing here. I've come to the place where I can actually enjoy McDuff's "Screamin'" and "Who Knows What Tommorrow Brings" equally! I think they're all very beautiful. His playing shines and it's nice to see it in different settings. Now...I'm still not able to enjoy something like McDuff's KISSES Lp. O.K., for me that does sucks! So I'm not completely able to absorb everything as equal. Quote
Brad Posted March 7, 2005 Author Report Posted March 7, 2005 Brad, I can understand you not liking it and me liking it; there are a number of instances I've noticed you dislike something I do, there you go, nothing wrong with that. There's room enough for what you like and for what I like to be offered for sale. For me it WORKS in a good time New Orleans way. AND I DO think a lot of Blue Notes all through the history of the label were built on a formula: the small group swing formula, the bop and hardbop quintet formula, the soul jazz formula, the organ trio formula. . . . That's cool, but I get TIRED of the formulas more often these days, and something like this release is a nice breath of fresh air. It's a big tent here so I guess that's cool. You like it but I don't. Of course, does anybody want to buy this? Quote
jazzbo Posted March 7, 2005 Report Posted March 7, 2005 PS: I sent you an email through the board recently re: another matter. . . ja get it? Quote
Brad Posted March 7, 2005 Author Report Posted March 7, 2005 PS: I sent you an email through the board recently re: another matter. . . ja get it? Lon, Never did. My email is lewinb@wyeth.com Brad Quote
jazzbo Posted March 7, 2005 Report Posted March 7, 2005 Hopefully you'll get this email I just sent! Quote
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