Parkertown Posted April 1, 2005 Report Posted April 1, 2005 (edited) New and sealed...At a local mom 'n pop store... $15 each + tax + shipping if interested... I have both already, though my SHB has a punch-hole, but is really just fine...I'm not that obsessive... So these are up for grabs! Who wants me to grab 'em for you ? Did I mention that these sound marvelous? B-) Edited April 1, 2005 by Parkertown Quote
JSngry Posted April 1, 2005 Report Posted April 1, 2005 Mastered by Wally Van Gelding? Sir Walter Wally? Or is it one of those Six-Walleye label things? Quote
sidewinder Posted April 1, 2005 Report Posted April 1, 2005 Wally Traugot Capitol re-masters, I guess. I have the 'Basra' and 'Patterns' and I agree, they sound great. Quote
Parkertown Posted April 1, 2005 Author Report Posted April 1, 2005 I have the 'Basra' and 'Patterns' and I agree, they sound great. Ooooooh, I'm so jealous... seriously... where's the "green with envy" smilie? This one, I guess? B-) I'd love to hear those... For real, if anyone knows where to locate any of these I'd be very interested. Quote
Parkertown Posted April 1, 2005 Author Report Posted April 1, 2005 So far I've acquired: Lou Donaldson-Pretty Things Jackie Mac-Destination Out! Big John Patton-Let 'Em Roll Duke Pearson-Sweet Honey Bee All are fantastic! Maybe one more...I can't recall right now... Quote
sidewinder Posted April 1, 2005 Report Posted April 1, 2005 I've just checked my Wallys ( ) and it looks as though I have more than I thought. In addition to the 'Basra' and 'Patterns' (the latter is in mint and was from Hiroshi) I have: Lee Morgan 'The Procrastinator' Art Blakey 'Like Someone In Love' Wayne Shorter 'The All Seeing Eye' (this one signed on the back for me by Wayne) Hank Mobley 'A Slice of the Top' Lou Donaldson 'Sunny Side Up' Hank Mobley 'The Turnaround' Bobby Hutcherson 'Components' All are great ! Quote
sidewinder Posted April 1, 2005 Report Posted April 1, 2005 Also just checked my 'spare' 'Sweet Honey Bee'. I thought it was a Wally but it turns out to be just a Rare Groove.. Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted April 1, 2005 Report Posted April 1, 2005 How does a "Wally" of "Sweet Honey Bee" improve what is already a tape of an LP? You would think even vinyl fans would dig the CD of this session... it's a needle-drop! BTW, isn't $15 a little on the high side? Maybe I'm full of it, but I swear these went for around $10 when they came out and even at that price, didn't sell all that well. In fact, I'd be interested at $10, but $15? I'll play the CDs. Later, Kevin Quote
sidewinder Posted April 1, 2005 Report Posted April 1, 2005 I think $15 is definitely a fair price. Most of mine were around the £10 mark so that would have been about $15 at the going exchange rate. For fans of the vinyl as distinct from CDs, these LPs are a pretty good buy. Many are on heavy vinyl too. Quote
Parkertown Posted April 2, 2005 Author Report Posted April 2, 2005 (edited) How does a "Wally" of "Sweet Honey Bee" improve what is already a tape of an LP? You would think even vinyl fans would dig the CD of this session... it's a needle-drop! Hmmm, are we sure about all this...? Heck, the copy I have sounds fabulous! BTW, isn't $15 a little on the high side? Maybe I'm full of it, but I swear these went for around $10 when they came out and even at that price, didn't sell all that well. In fact, I'd be interested at $10, but $15? I'll play the CDs. Later, Kevin Hmmm, I dunno, Kev...The ones I've seen new and sealed were the ones that started this thread and a couple others. They were priced $14.99 and some others $17.99. I'd say there right up there quality-wise with the Classic Records versions that cost $30 a pop! And they're gone! (I mean in general, not the ones that I spotted.) Shit, I just paid $25 each for the Leeway & Procrastinator Conn LPs just now that I found on the way home...they were opened, but mint...I tried talking to the guy, complaining about the price, and he said, "Cuz there so gone!" However, he did cut the price in half of the $5 Pete Townsend/Ronnie Lane Rough Mix lp I was getting... B-) Edited April 2, 2005 by Parkertown Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted April 2, 2005 Report Posted April 2, 2005 How does a "Wally" of "Sweet Honey Bee" improve what is already a tape of an LP? You would think even vinyl fans would dig the CD of this session... it's a needle-drop! Hmmm, are we sure about all this...? Heck, the copy I have sounds fabulous! Definitely. The master tape of "Sweet Honey Bee" as well as Silver's "The Jody Grind" are LP dubs. Cuscuna confirmed that a while ago. In fact, there was a lot of talk about the JRVG CD of "Sweet Honey Bee" as being "click-free". When RVG re-did that title, he didn't use the US master, but went back to the Japanese master to see if it was a tape dub (after getting hounded by me for a month! ). From what Michael said, it seems that the Japanese master is simply a cleaned-up needle-drop. Kevin Quote
sidewinder Posted April 2, 2005 Report Posted April 2, 2005 That makes sense, Kevin. The 'Sweet Honey Bee' master was either wrecked or lost - it was mentioned in a thread on the BNBB some years ago. In fact several of the posters at the time found pristine originals of this session that they pondered even opening and playing (was it 'Swinging Swede'?). In general though, the sound of the Wally's is excellent and, as has been mentioned by Parkertown, up there with the Classic Reissues. I gave 'Patterns' a spin last night and it was pretty damn good, to say the least. I want one of those Big John 'Let Em Roll's too Quote
Parkertown Posted April 2, 2005 Author Report Posted April 2, 2005 Well, then someone over there sure know how to do an excellent needle-drop! Cuz I hear no wow & flutter...at all. B-) Thanks for the info, Kevin. Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted April 3, 2005 Report Posted April 3, 2005 I thought these "Wally" titles sounded familiar. I looked in my pile and found that I have two, Andrew Hill's "Judgement!" and Dizzy Reece's "Blue In Trinity". I then realized why I thought these were going for around $10... these were issued in the Connoisseur & Rare Groove series... from digital masters. There was a big stink about this when it was discovered and afterward, most stores couldn't give them away. The vinyl afficiandos put their noses in the air at them. I can't tell you how many times I had that Hank Mobley "A Slice of the Top" in my hand, only to put it back down because I had heard it sounded lousy. I almost bought it just to see. It's good to see that some people played them before passing judgement on their sound. As for myself, I don't think I've even played either one. I bought them to get signed. Andrew Hill's autograph on "Judgement!" is pretty wild. Silver Sharpie across the black shadows. I'll have to give them a spin. Hell, I think the Reece disc is in a picture frame! Kevin Quote
sidewinder Posted April 3, 2005 Report Posted April 3, 2005 (edited) Andrew Hill's autograph on "Judgement!" is pretty wild. That's the usual ! I'm suprised at the comments about the sound on 'Slice of the Top'. It's way better than the LT-series 'Rainbow' original. I'll have to give it a spin a bit later. I'm still impressed with the sound of the 'Basra'. Holds up quite well against the NY USA original, IMO, although the sound is not as full. Edited April 3, 2005 by sidewinder Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted April 3, 2005 Report Posted April 3, 2005 (edited) I'm suprised at the comments about the sound on 'Slice of the Top'. It's way better than the LT-series 'Rainbow' original. I'll have to give it a spin a bit later. That wouldn't be too hard! That's the main reason I almost bought that Connoisseur LP, just to see if it sounded better than the old LT LP, which I thought sounded odd. If I remember right, the intruments were placed rather strangely across the two channels with a lot of them lumped into one. Kevin EDIT: I just dug out my LP of Dizzy Reece's "Blue In Trinity" (it was in a picture frame) and found out it's a "Larry", as in Larry Walsh. Edited April 3, 2005 by Kevin Bresnahan Quote
Parkertown Posted April 4, 2005 Author Report Posted April 4, 2005 Kevin, Some of 'em say Larry Walsh on the jacket, but when you look in the dead wax, it says "Wally." I know I've got one like that... I'm jealous of those 2, Kevin...especially "Blues In Trinity"...definitely a favorite... Hey, here's an idea: You keep the jacket in the frame...sell me the record! B-) ------ Oh, poop! I just won an LT-series "Slice From The Top." Took bad I can't find more of the "Wally's." Quote
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