EKE BBB Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 This long-awaited release is finally available (directly through AB FABLE website, through www.cdjazz.com or through Cadence Records): ABCD1-014 RAY NANCE When We’re Alone COMPLETE 1940–1949 NON-DUCAL VIOLIN RECORDINGS FEATURING BEN WEBSTER CLARINET TRANSCRIPTIONS Including unreleased only known clarinet solo home recordings by Ben Webster with Jimmie Blanton and other sessions with Ray Nance on violin and some trumpet away from Duke Ellington incl. Horace Henderson, Eddie Heywood, Earl Hines, Ivory Joe Hunter, etc. Songs: Memories Of You Sometimes I'm Happy How High The Moon I Can't Believe That You're In Love With The Sheik Of Araby I Never Knew Moon Mist + various songs Personnel: Al Casey Ben Webster Dick Katz Don Byas Don Redman Earl Hines Eddie Heywood Emmett Berry Flip Phillips Horace Henderson Jimmy Blanton J.J. Johnson Johnny Hodges John Simmons Oscar Pettiford Roy Haynes Russell Procope Shelly Manne Sid Catlett Sonny Greer Sonny Rollins Tyree Glenn Wendell Marshall Wynton Kelly Just ordered it through CDJAZZ. Very pricey, but I hope it will be worth it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 Ray Nance. . . yes. . . this is going to be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKE BBB Posted July 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 Ray Nance. . . yes. . . this is going to be great. ← Hey, Lon, apart from an "old disestablismentarianismist", you´re a freakin´ collector of Ellingtonia. Will I ever find a single Ellington-related disc that you don´t own? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAL Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 This one is #1001 on the wishlist. Hope it don't go OOP too soon. Will I ever find a single Ellington-related disc that you don´t own? ← How bout this one.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Ray Nance. . . yes. . . this is going to be great. ← Hey, Lon, apart from an "old disestablismentarianismist", you´re a freakin´ collector of Ellingtonia. Will I ever find a single Ellington-related disc that you don´t own? ← Perhaps FRANCIS A. AND EDWARD K.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKE BBB Posted July 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Ray Nance. . . yes. . . this is going to be great. ← Hey, Lon, apart from an "old disestablismentarianismist", you´re a freakin´ collector of Ellingtonia. Will I ever find a single Ellington-related disc that you don´t own? ← Perhaps FRANCIS A. AND EDWARD K.? ← Doesn´t Lon like Sinatra? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Ray Nance. . . yes. . . this is going to be great. ← Hey, Lon, apart from an "old disestablismentarianismist", you´re a freakin´ collector of Ellingtonia. Will I ever find a single Ellington-related disc that you don´t own? ← Perhaps FRANCIS A. AND EDWARD K.? ← Doesn´t Lon like Sinatra? ← You might say 'Old Blue Eyes' is not Lon's favourite. Love him myself and 'Francis A. and Edward K.' is a mighty fine album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 I don't have that Satin Doll cd. . . . I do have the Sinatra collaboration: I have four cds with Sinatra, that one, two with Basie, and a Harry James RCA that has a small group session that he sings on. I do NOT really like Francis A. and Edward K. Nothing really happening there. Not really "Ducal" arrangements, mediocre (in my opinion) vocals, some okay playing. I ordered the Nance from Cadence. . . it shipped yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 Lon, as a big fan of Jobim, I thought you might own the Sinatra/Jobim collaboration. In my opinion, that album really is a masterpiece and a highpoint for both artists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalo Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 Lon, as a big fan of Jobim, I thought you might own the Sinatra/Jobim collaboration. In my opinion, that album really is a masterpiece and a highpoint for both artists. ← I agree with that. I'm especially impressed by the subtlety, sensitivity, and nuance of Sinatra's singing on this, in an era where he was beginning to rely more and more on swagger and bluster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalo Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 On the other hand, I'm really curious to find out more about this Ray Nance and Ben Webster disc. I look forward to your reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 I forgot, I do own the Jobim and Sinatra disc, and I listened to it twice. I wish it were just a Jobim disc! I truly don't like Sinatra. To each their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron S Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 I truly don't like Sinatra. To each their own. Something to keep in mind: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 Frank (only his friends can call him that) was the best pop singer of the 20th century, no question about it - if you can't hear that....well, than, we shall politely disagree vehemently - though you might ask Lester Young what HE thought - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 (edited) I'm feeling quite free to agree to disagree with you Allen, I do that quite frequently actually. To clarify a bit: I just don't like him. It doesn't mean he wasn't great or fantastic, whether I think so or not (I very carefully refrained from making any such comment), I just don't like his personality and how it comes through in the music, at all. Or the sound of hs voice. There are many many singers to listen to and I choose not to listen to him. I'd rather listen to Peggy Lee or Billie or Carmen or Una Mae or Jack Teagarden or POPS or Al Hibbler. OR RAY NANCE, definitely. There are plenty of Frank admirers, I am aware I have a minority opinion, and others are free to listen to him round the clock if they want to. Edited July 14, 2005 by jazzbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Brown Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 Well said, Lon. Couldn't agree more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 wait - are you agreeing that he has a right to disagree, or that Frank sucks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 Another non-Sinatra voice heard from. I can't stand the wise ass arrogant attitude that I hear when he sings. For me, its as if he doesn't let any vulnerability come through - even when he wants to. That's my opininion - I know there are many, many, many, and many more who disagree. They can listen to him and I'll listen to other singers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 Just realized that this is supposed to be a Ray Nance/Ben Webster thread. I hope that the discussion can go back to that. Apologies for my part in turning it into a pro and anti Sinatra thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 The Nance CD is much less expensive at Cadence for US buyers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 Yes, mine shipped from Cadence Tuesday, so I'll report back when I have it in a few days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 hey Jazzbo - we do agree on one thing - I love Nance's playing and consider him to be the most soulful jazz violinist who ever lived - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Brown Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 (edited) To answer Allen Lowe: no, I don't think Frank Sinatra sucks. I would have to agree with you that he was one hell of a singer, but I still understand what Lon is saying. The beautiful thing about most jazz music is its honesty. But sometimes it's difficult to understand how someone like, say for example, Stan Getz could make music that touches you really deeply even though you know what kind of a person he really was. I think it's the same kind of thing with Sinatra. First, you get seduced by his music, then you say to yourself 'this guy sure is one hell of an actor'. I think what Lon is saying is that he has trouble getting past that pose. Edited July 15, 2005 by Don Brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceH Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 Lon, as a big fan of Jobim, I thought you might own the Sinatra/Jobim collaboration. In my opinion, that album really is a masterpiece and a highpoint for both artists. ← I agree with that. I'm especially impressed by the subtlety, sensitivity, and nuance of Sinatra's singing on this, in an era where he was beginning to rely more and more on swagger and bluster. ← Amen to that. On the other hand, I'm really curious to find out more about this Ray Nance and Ben Webster disc. I look forward to your reports. ← Yeah, this Ray Nance disc sounds damn good. Perhaps another for my ever-lengthening wish list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gslade Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 I had to give in and order this some things I just cannot pass on Cant wait to hear the music Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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