Bags and Stitt

[Dan Gould]

Actually, I know the answer to this one, cuz I just won the sucker:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...01788%26fvi%3D1

But I'm curious whether they ever did a date together otherwise. Looking through AMG nothing stuck out, and it occured to me its kind of surprising two guys who recorded so much and so continuously, original beboppers, and all ... so I wonder if there's anything I've missed and that they did in fact recorded elsewhere together.

[kh1958]

Did this label have many releases?

I have the excellent George Adams and Don Pullen LP All That Funk and a copy of their other LP for the label, More Funk.

What else is there?

[Stereojack]

Actually, I know the answer to this one, cuz I just won the sucker:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...01788%26fvi%3D1

But I'm curious whether they ever did a date together otherwise.  Looking through AMG nothing stuck out, and it occured to me its kind of surprising two guys who recorded so much and so continuously, original beboppers, and all ... so I wonder if there's anything I've missed and that they did in fact recorded elsewhere together.

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They recorded together in the late 1940's in Detroit for the Sensation label. The sides were reissued on a Galaxy (Fantasy) LP, and later on an Ace CD.

[marcello]

How about this?

Lord Nelson (Sonny Stitt) And his Boppers

Willie Wells or Russell Jacquet (tp) Sonny Stitt (as) Milt Jackson (vib) Will Davis or Sir Charles Thompson (p) Jimmy Glover or Ray Brown (b) Dave Heard or Max Roach (d)

Detroit, MI, June, 1948

* Milt Jackson, Sonny Stitt - In the Beginning (Galaxy GXY 204; Fantasy OJC 1771, OJCCD 1771-2)

Edited November 21, 2005 by marcello

[Dan Gould]

Thanks, Jack and Marcello. I kinda figured they must have recorded together at some point. But this LP I got looks like a good 'un, and you can't beat a winning bid of $2.99!

[marcello]

Isn't a little stange that two artists, who recorded prolificaly and came up in the same era, in the same Be-Bop scene, didn't record more together?

....but look; I found this from a French site:

Stitt & Bags Concert

[Dan Gould]

Isn't a little stange that two artists, who recorded prolificaly and came up in the same era, in the same Be-Bop scene, didn't record more together?

....but look; I found this from a French site:

Stitt & Bags Concert

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I'm virtually certain that concert is what is on that Italian LP I linked above. While AMG does not list the Stitt-Bags LP, under Stitt's name is Back To My Own Home on Black & Blue, and the write up mentions that

Sonny Stitt toured Europe in 1979 with pianist Gerald Price, bassist Don Mosley, and drummer Bobby Durham, though he only made two recordings with this rhythm section, the other of which was a date led by Milt Jackson.

So unless this was a studio recording before/after that concert, I'm sure this is the show that is on the LP.

[robviti]

from amg:

This is a very interesting CD, particularly for bop collectors, since it contains very rare early performances by altoist Sonny Stitt and vibraphonist Milt Jackson; some of the titles were originally under trumpeter Russell Jacquet's name. There are eight songs by a quintet with Stitt, Jacquet and pianist Sir Charles Thompson, what could be considered the first Modern Jazz Quartet records (actually a quintet with Milt Jackson, pianist John Lewis, drummer Kenny Clarke, bassist Al Jackson and Chano Pozo on congas) and five songs from a septet with Jacquet, Stitt, trombonist J.J. Johnson and baritonist Leo Parker. Recorded in Detroit for the tiny Galaxy label, these performances are not essential but they do give listeners an early glimpse at the future stars.

1 Body and Soul 2:21

2 3rd Song 2:15

3 Red Shoes 2:18

4 Be Bop Blues 2:14

5 Royal Wedding 2:23

6 Fine and Dandy 2:20

8 Ratio and Proportion 2:14

9 Slits 2:32

10 Baggy Eyes 2:24

11 In a Beautiful Mood 2:56

12 Baggy's Blues 2:40

13 Suede Jacket 2:54

14 Suede Jacket [alternate take] 2:51

15 Lion's Roar 2:48

16 Scamper Roo 2:50

17 Relaxin' 2:14

[Chuck Nessa]

So unless this was a studio recording before/after that concert, I'm sure this is the show that is on the LP.

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Or it could be from Milan on November 11th.

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

As far as I can see, apart from some 1946 Dizzy Gillespie material on which both men played, there are only two Stitt/Jackson albums. One is the 1947 & 1948 material, originally recorded for a Detroit label, Sensation, then reissued on LP Galaxy 204, and reissued again on OJC1771 - "In the beginning". The 1947 tracks were recorded by a band under Bags' leadership, the 1948 ones by "Lord Nelson" aka Sonny Stitt. There are also some 1948 tracks on that OJC CD by Russell Jacquet, featuring Stitt, but not Bags. They were also recorded for Sensation.

The other is the 1979 Milan concert, issued in Italy as "Loose Walk".

MG

[Dan Gould]

The other is the 1979 Milan concert, issued in Italy as "Loose Walk".

MG

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Which is the one I posted the link to in the initial post of the thread.