Guest Posted February 28, 2006 Report Posted February 28, 2006 Hi, I'm new to the forums (a regular on the Steve Hoffman board) and an avid collector of Japanese mini-LP's so I've got a couple of questions for you guys since you seem to be the authority on this.... First of all, can anyone please confirm that June Christy & Stan Kenton's DUETS Japanese import, Cat. No. TOCJ-9321 is indeed a 24-bit packaged MINI-LP SLEEVE? Also, apart from the Mono/Stereo CD of SOMETHING COOL, can anyone tell me whether any of her other Blue Note Recordings (Ballads For Night People, Big Band Specials, Day Dreams, Gone For The Day, June's Got Rhythm, Misty Miss Christy, The Song Is June!) were ever issued/remastered on MINI-LP format? Thanks for any help, it's really appreciated! Quote
jazzbo Posted February 28, 2006 Report Posted February 28, 2006 (edited) Big Christy fan here. . . but I really can't help you because I have her work in US Capitol and British EMI cds with the exception of the one (Something Cool) you know about. . . . But welcome! Edited February 28, 2006 by jazzbo Quote
MartyJazz Posted February 28, 2006 Report Posted February 28, 2006 (edited) Sorry, this isn't germane to the thrust of the original post but for the life of me, I can't understand the appeal of the Japanese mini-LP format. LPs and CDs are very different media. Each deserves the packaging best suited to their respective formats. Quite a while ago, McLuhan wrote accurately that new media swallows up old media before the new media develops on its own, so one would have thought that the mini-LP would have been the first packaging format when the CD arrived on the scene, rather than have arrived as belatedly and so unnecessarily as it has. I absolutely detest mini-LP packaging with the impossibly difficult to read print reduction of the original album liner notes and the bending of the cover in order to pull out a small disc - LPs for lilliputians, I guess is the concept. I want my CDs in a tray insert within a jewel box ALWAYS. Another reason I hate the mini-LP packaging is that the discs do not fit on the CD shelves I own. The designers of these shelves evidently never considered the diabolical introduction of the mini-LP packaging concept. P.S. I do dig June Christy however. Edited February 28, 2006 by MartyJazz Quote
Guest Posted February 28, 2006 Report Posted February 28, 2006 Thanks, though I'd rather not turn this thread into a debate on the mini-LP format. Needless to say, I disagree and appreciate the quality that goes into preserving the original sleeve art, often improved sound that comes with many of the higher-bit remasterings as well the collectability factor in revisiting vinyl nostalgia. Anyways, thanks for the welcome. If anyone could please offer any help regarding Duet, TOCJ-9321... whether it's indeed in mini-LP format as well as the rest of her Blue Note catalogue, it'd be greatly appreciated!! Quote
brownie Posted February 28, 2006 Report Posted February 28, 2006 Oliver, first of all a hearty welcome! You keep refering to those June Christy releases as being part of the BN catalogue. I know that BN and Capitol are under the same flag nowadays but June Christy when she was alive was one of the stars of the Capitol label and that label had nothing to do with BN then. Are these TOCJs being released as BN records or as Capitol ones? That would be odd... And sorry I can't help with your question. As a longtime June Christy fan, I have her records on Capitol vinyls! Quote
Guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Posted March 1, 2006 There is an excellent June Christy website called The Misty Miss Christy which contains a wealth of discographical info on all media. Also several threads with lots of photos, newspaper articles and anecdotes. Newer 24 bit releases appear to be in jewel cases versus the mini LP format. I checked Amazon.Japan as well as CD Japan, and all appear in the standard CD format. All of her latest releases such as Do-Re-Me/Cool School; Ballads for Night People, etc are in also standard jewel cases as is her Japanese release of June Chisty 1977. Grew up listening to Christy and still have the 10 inch LPs and 45 RPM EPs. Most of her work has been reissued on CD except for a few readings. Would love to have Duet and the Get Happy 45 EP reissued in mini LP format with extra tracks. You will find all track listing for her TOCJs on the Miss Christy Discography page along with a downloadable PDF file. On another note, Collectables is issuing a boxed set of Chris Connor which is available for presale at CD Universe. Quote
Guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Posted March 1, 2006 (edited) Thanks so much Jeff! I do know for certain that Something Cool was issued with both Stereo/Mono versions in mini-LP format from Toshiba / EMI Japan, but I'm not sure about Duet though. I know that it was released in Japan fairly recently ('01/02?) in 24-Bit with a similar catalogue number as well, but again I'm not sure whether it was in the mini-LP format. Amazon does have a listing for Something Cool though... Hi Brownie, thanks for the welcome! To answer your question, I believe that both the Columbia Jazz label and Blue Note Records are now subsidiaries of EMI Records in the US/UK and many of the Columbia reissues are now being put out by Blue Note or listed as such under distribution. I think that Columbia Jazz now only exists in name, though I'm obviously no authority on any of this. EMI can basically release their products under either label. I recently picked up some remastered Stan Kenton CDs and they were all issued through EMI's Blue Note label as well, despite being originally released on Columbia. Not sure the rhyme or reason... Edited March 1, 2006 by OliverB Quote
Ron S Posted March 1, 2006 Report Posted March 1, 2006 Columbia is part of Sony/BMG, not EMI. But give it time--they'll all eventually be part of one Sony/BMG/EMI/Universal megaconglomerate. Quote
GA Russell Posted March 1, 2006 Report Posted March 1, 2006 Columbia is part of Sony/BMG, not EMI. But give it time--they'll all eventually be part of one Sony/BMG/EMI/Universal megaconglomerate. Ron, I'm sure that Oliver was referring to British Columbia, which has been for decades an EMI label. As I recall The Yardbirds recordings were on them. In Britain, the US Columbia recordings were issued on the CBS label. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted March 1, 2006 Report Posted March 1, 2006 I think she was married to one of the Lighthouse All-Stars. Quote
Ron S Posted March 1, 2006 Report Posted March 1, 2006 Columbia is part of Sony/BMG, not EMI. But give it time--they'll all eventually be part of one Sony/BMG/EMI/Universal megaconglomerate. Ron, I'm sure that Oliver was referring to British Columbia, which has been for decades an EMI label. As I recall The Yardbirds recordings were on them. In Britain, the US Columbia recordings were issued on the CBS label. I assumed when he said "Columbia Jazz" he meant the Columbia that put out, well, JAZZ. And weren't all those Kenton recordings now issued by Blue Note originally on Capitol, and not Columbia? Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted March 1, 2006 Report Posted March 1, 2006 Bob Cooper, wasn't it? Did he make barrels and wheels? Quote
Ron S Posted March 1, 2006 Report Posted March 1, 2006 (edited) Bob Cooper, wasn't it? HIYO!!! You are CORRECT, sir! (I know Chuck wasn't about to give you a straight answer. ) Edited March 1, 2006 by Ron S Quote
GA Russell Posted March 1, 2006 Report Posted March 1, 2006 And weren't all those Kenton recordings now issued by Blue Note originally on Capitol, and not Columbia? Apparently in Britain they were issued on the EMI Columbia label. I don't recall if EMI ever issued anything in Britain on the Capitol label. Quote
Guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Posted March 1, 2006 (edited) Actually guys it's my bad, sorry for the confusion! I was adding some catalogue numbers to my upcoming list of records to pick up this month at the time of posting and my midn was elsewhere... but I meant to say CAPITOL JAZZ. Not Columbia! I wasn't even aware of the Brit issues, but it's entirely possible. I did mean to say that Capitol Jazz is now a division of the EMI label, which I am quite certain to be the case. Edited March 1, 2006 by OliverB Quote
Bluerein Posted March 1, 2006 Report Posted March 1, 2006 Hello Oliver, welcome aboard! I have the Christy Something Cool mini LP CD and this one is 24 Bit remastered in the US by Ron McMaster. I don't have the Duets mini LP but it's from the same series so I suspect it to be remastered by McMaster as well in 24 Bit for the Japanese market. Quote
Bluerein Posted March 1, 2006 Report Posted March 1, 2006 to answer your questions more directly...... The Duets was indeed a mini LP Japanese CD (OOP now) and the others of your list were not issued in Japan in the mini LP format. (almost) all are available though in the EMI UK twofer format and US CD's. You didn't mention the Christmas album June did and which was reissued last year by Collector's choice which is also a good one imo. Quote
Guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Posted March 1, 2006 june woudlnt want you obessing about the different reisues, she would just want you enjoy her lp + a nice glass of iced tea.... Quote
Ron S Posted March 1, 2006 Report Posted March 1, 2006 Actually guys it's my bad, sorry for the confusion! And Mr. Russell naturally assumed that I was the one who was confused. By the way, let me also say welcome! Quote
Guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Posted March 1, 2006 Thanks again for all the friendly welcomes, I've been lurking on these forums for the past several months and I'm glad to be posting here! And Bluerein - thanks so much for answering my questions!! I do have June's Christmas album (This Time Of Year) that was reissued by CC and it sounds great! ~ Oliver. Quote
tjluke68 Posted March 1, 2006 Report Posted March 1, 2006 I just recently browsed thru a music catalog and saw that EMI UK has recently released Do-Re-Mi and The Cool School as a two-fer. I've been meaning to get This Time of Year even though I have the LP (but haven't listened to it in the 2 years that I've had it) :-0 Quote
GA Russell Posted March 1, 2006 Report Posted March 1, 2006 Actually guys it's my bad, sorry for the confusion! And Mr. Russell naturally assumed that I was the one who was confused. By the way, let me also say welcome! Ron, sorry! Quote
Ron S Posted March 1, 2006 Report Posted March 1, 2006 Actually guys it's my bad, sorry for the confusion! And Mr. Russell naturally assumed that I was the one who was confused. By the way, let me also say welcome! Ron, sorry! No problem. But don't let it happen again. Quote
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