Bobby Timmons - Chicken' & Dumplins

[monkboughtlunch]

Has this Prestige Timmons date from 1965 ever been reissued on CD in the U.S. or Japan? Is this a good session?

[BruceH]

I've never seen it, but it sounds delicious.

[chris olivarez]

I don't know about any Timmons cd's but it's on one of Blakey's "Jazz Corner Of The World" cd's and Timmons is playing piano on it.

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

This is my favourite Timmons album. No idea why Fantasy didn't make "The Prestige trio sessions" (PRCD24277) into a double CD by adding this other trio session in.

I think it's possible that Japanese Victor might have issued it on CD (simply because they've done so many other Prestige Soul Jazz albums that Fantasy never bothered with), but I've never seen or heard of it - and I'd have bought it like a shot.

Time to dig it out and give it a spin.

MG

[Peter A]

This is my favourite Timmons album.

Really? I think it's the WORST Lp by Bobby Timmons. I bought the LP recently and, although I am a big fan of BT, it was a major disappointment to me. I think it is mentioned in the liner notes the session was recorded with musicians BT had not met before. And that's very obvious to the listener, Bobby is struggling to find the right notes. Actually I can't understand why Prestige released it.

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

Feels beautiful to me. But I never care much about the technicalities.

MG

[brownie]

Gave that 'Chicken' & Dumplins' vinyl a spin. It's not really as bad as Peter A ascertains.

Timmons seems to have several articulation problems but he still manages to produce lively piano (and vibraphone on two of the cuts). His best years were behind him at the time of this session (1965).

Certainly not his best. I much prefer his Riverside albums.

Bob Porter in his liner notes remains noncommital about the session and instead delves on Charlie Parker's music!

[bertrand]

I need a copy of the Xmas record Holiday Soul with Butch Warren. Any hope this will come out on CD in my lifetime?

Bertrand.

[brownie]

'Holiday Soul' is nice with all these Christmas songs! Have this on vinyl only!

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

Yes, I used to have it but it had to go when I was on the dole in 1970.

A twofer of the two "Holiday soul" albums - by Timmons and Don Patterson - would be most welcome. Fat chance.

MG

[Chas]

Gave that 'Chicken' & Dumplins' vinyl a spin. It's not really as bad as Peter A ascertains.

Timmons seems to have several articulation problems but he still manages to produce lively piano (and vibraphone on two of the cuts). His best years were behind him at the time of this session (1965).

That may be true only in the sense that after 1965 his dipsomania may have led to a certain inconsistency of performance , yet an album like Soul Man from 1966 is not without interest ( and not just because of Wayne Shorter's playing ) I'm sure you would agree . Timmons is less overtly funky , more directly in touch with his roots in Powell . At times on Soul Man I hear him utilizing a rythmic approach akin to Andrew Hill's , which perhaps is what Peter A was reacting to when he noted Timmons 'struggling to find the right notes' on Chicken & Dumplins .

[brownie]

That may be true only in the sense that after 1965 his dipsomania may have led to a certain inconsistency of performance , yet an album like Soul Man from 1966 is not without interest ( and not just because of Wayne Shorter's playing ) I'm sure you would agree . Timmons is less overtly funky , more directly in touch with his roots in Powell . At times on Soul Man I hear him utilizing a rythmic approach akin to Andrew Hill's , which perhaps is what Peter A was reacting to when he noted Timmons 'struggling to find the right notes' on Chicken & Dumplins .

Interesting the mention of Andrew Hill. I thought I could hear traces of Hill (also Dickerson) on Bobby Timmons vibraphone playing on that 'Chicken' album.

[monkboughtlunch]

I picked Chicken N Dumplings on vinyl on eBay, and love it. My old vinyl Lp has some issues with pops and skipping.

I really wish Concord would reissue this on CD. I think it's the only Timmons session not yet to appear on CD.

Have the Japanese issued this one on CD yet?