obscure sonny criss date i dont have

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

Roy Porter Quintet (Debonair 1821, 1822)

Sonny Criss (as) Roy Porter (org) Buddy Woodson (b) Al Bartee (d) Richard Washington (bgo) Los Angeles, CA, 1957Wow! Got A Funny Feelin' Minor Moods Love You

any assistence/recollections of this date + info on releases of this material would be muchly appriciated if you would be so kind/ thanks

oh, and i thought roy porter was a drummer....?

Edited August 25, 2008 by chewy

[marcello]

[Roy Porter Quintet] (Debonair 1821, 1822)

*Sonny Criss(as) Roy Porter(org) Buddy Woodson(b)

Al Bartee(ds) Richard Washington(bongo)

@ 1957 / Los Angels

+ Wow

+ Got a Funny Feelin'

+ Minor Moods

+ Love You

Note : Information of this session listed in Roy Porter's autobiography titled

[There and Back], published by Bayou Press in 1991.

Thanks to Mr.Peter Bevan for this information.

[soundtrack : Le Glaive et la Balance] (Pathe-Marconi ?)

detailed unknown.

SONNY CRISS

[Niko]

is that roy porter book worth getting?

http://www.amazon.com/There-Back-Bayou-Jaz...1096&sr=8-4

[marcello]

is that roy porter book worth getting?

http://www.amazon.com/There-Back-Bayou-Jaz...1096&sr=8-4

A quick reply is no.

The part of the book that covers the 40's to the early 50's is worth knowing about, but the rest of the book (and his career) is very uninteresting to say the least.

[Niko]

is that roy porter book worth getting?

http://www.amazon.com/There-Back-Bayou-Jaz...1096&sr=8-4

A quick reply is no.

The part of the book that covers the 40's to the early 50's is worth knowing about, but the rest of the book (and his career) is very uninteresting to say the least.

worse than uninteresting doensn't sound too promising indeed

thank you!

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

one day later and i still dont have it guys!

[Niko]

concerning: "includes organ?!?!?"

if you don't have the sonny criss jazz in paris cd with george arvanitas alternating between organ and piano you need it badly... (plus there is more from these sessions on the jazz in paris cd "saxophones at st germain de pres"

[BeBop]

is that roy porter book worth getting?

http://www.amazon.com/There-Back-Bayou-Jaz...1096&sr=8-4

A quick reply is no.

The part of the book that covers the 40's to the early 50's is worth knowing about, but the rest of the book (and his career) is very uninteresting to say the least.

I'd agree. The expression "legend in his own mind" seems to apply to the Porter autobiography. He spends a lot of time talking about his relatively few commercial and artistic "triumphs". I'd have been as interested in the tidbits and observations from the forgotten and overlooked experiences.

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

oooooooo niko i cant belive i never knew about this one! the only jazz in paris i see a lot are the blakey and earl hines and byrd.

hey i dont like those generic jazz in paris series covers-- all those lps are in actuality from various euro record labels like decca and brunswick, huh. that whole jazz in paris thing is a scam.

but oh my god thanks for hippin me 2 this sonny session! almost makes up, not quite but almost makes up for me not havin the roy porter yet, lol

[Big Beat Steve]

hey i dont like those generic jazz in paris series covers-- all those lps are in actuality from various euro record labels like decca and brunswick, huh. that whole jazz in paris thing is a scam.

Dead wrong IMHO! Those covers are all about a uniform "identity" of the entire series, showing Paris street scenes from the 30s to 50s (though some pics are a bit ouf of synch with the recording dates). I actually find them quite appealing (but then I'm European and am interested in other aspects of the 50s too , up to the point of buying one or two for the covers only - and then getting to appreciate the music too).

I'd agree it's a matter of taste but unless you do something like the Fresh Sound reissues where you use original album cover art for the CD covers you might as well go this fairly original route adopted by "Jazz In Paris". But remember many of those Jazz In Paris CDs are made up of the contents of several 10in LPs and EPs so there would not be ONE single original cover that would apply to all the contents of the CD. But maybe you'd lilke the black Vogue reissue series of the 90s (the ones with the cardboard foldout covers) better?

If you want to use the term "scam" for thoughtless, nondescript cover art, this might better be applied to certain other reissue labels (including some Stateside ones).

Just my very personal opinion...

[John L]

The Jazz in Paris series reissues recordings that Criss intially made for Blue Star records: VERY strong stuff, Criss at his best.

Fresh Sound indeed reissued it a while back on vinyl with the original cover

[Niko]

The Jazz in Paris series reissues recordings that Criss intially made for Blue Star records: VERY strong stuff, Criss at his best.

Fresh Sound indeed reissued it a while back on vinyl with the original cover

didn't you have another cover of this as your avatar a while back? or was that the cover of the single... the criss album is one of the better looking JiP cds imho, wouldn't say that about the "saxophones" compilation (which contains iirc four singles (or what are these things that play for about twice 5 minutes? 10 inch?), two by criss, one by michel de villiers and one (at least as good as the criss) by hubert fol)

don't quite recall at the moment... was there some overlap between the cds, or were those different takes?

Edited August 27, 2008 by Niko

[Big Beat Steve]

Well, Niko if you can't "feel" that typical 50s street flair (especially around St. German de Près) and are indifferent to 50s cars, then that's so (but that's your loss ) - OTOH rainy days aren't that appealing anyway, and not even some (then) shapely legs will offset that.

As for the music, if I understood the liner notes correctly (I didn't check my discographies) there are no overlaps between those 2 CDs. The "shorter" original releases that you refer to probably are those 4-track 45 rpm EP's (EXTENDED PLAY). An extremely common release format for jazz in 50s Europe.

That facsimile LP reissue by Fresh Sound is interesting. Never seen that reissue before - one of the very few that must have escaped me totally.

[Niko]

Well, Niko if you can't "feel" that typical 50s street flair (especially around St. German de Près) and are indifferent to 50s cars, then that's so (but that's your loss ) - OTOH rainy days aren't that appealing anyway, and not even some (then) shapely legs will offset that.

As for the music, if I understood the liner notes correctly (I didn't check my discographies) there are no overlaps between those 2 CDs. The "shorter" original releases that you refer to probably are those 4-track 45 rpm EP's (EXTENDED PLAY). An extremely common release format for jazz in 50s Europe.

EP was the word i was missing think it's not the street flair i dislike, maybe just the brown box... didn't the liner notes say something like, they were surprised to see one part of Early and Later pt1/2 was different between the LP and the EP (making you wonder whether the other part is identical...) don't have the cd here to check (and accidentally ordered an argentinian copy of the criss album without liner notes)

btw: how could i not mention that the criss stuff has the great rene thomas on guitar

Edited August 27, 2008 by Niko

[John L]

didn't you have another cover of this as your avatar a while back? or was that the cover of the single...

Wow, you have a great memory. Yes, that was indeed the cover of the 45 version of Blues Pour Flirter, which, for some very strange reason, was actually not included on the Jazz in Paris release of Blues Pour Flirter. An alternate take is on the Saxophones Saint Germain disc.

[Niko]

didn't you have another cover of this as your avatar a while back? or was that the cover of the single...

Wow, you have a great memory. Yes, that was indeed the cover of the 45 version of Blues Pour Flirter, which, for some very strange reason, was actually not included on the Jazz in Paris release of Blues Pour Flirter. An alternate take is on the Saxophones Saint Germain disc.

only a good memory for the stuff that really matters...

was Blues Pour Flirter originally included in the LP? (the same or a different version? ah, you say an alternate take is on the Saxophones CD - so the album take is not reissued?!)