Who The Heck is/was Sonny Salad?

[JSngry]

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&a...fpfwxqqhldhe~T4

[brownie]

Sonny Salad was an alto saxophonist who played mostly in Ray McKinley's big band. His main claim to fame was being part of the band that recorded Neal Hefti's 'Repetition' with Charlie Parket for the 'Jazz Scene' project.

[Niko]

didn't leave many traces..., sounds like a corruption, salvatore salato...

http://books.google.com/books?id=evUDAAAAM...ad%22&hl=de

http://books.google.com/books?id=kSIEAAAAM...ad%22&hl=de

http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=11945

Edited June 30, 2009 by Niko

[Jazzmoose]

Lettuce alone, Jim...

[Niko]

Sonny Salad was an alto saxophonist who played mostly in Ray McKinley's big band. His main claim to fame was being part of the band that recorded Neal Hefti's 'Repetition' with Charlie Parket for the 'Jazz Scene' project.

interesting to see gene orloff in there, he had this real impressive career later on

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&a...g9fpxqlgld0e~T4

(and iirc some on some of these are lps i actually found the string sections real good like yusef lateef's detroit or with roland kirk...)

CHARLIE PARKER with NEAL HEFTI'S ORCHESTRA

Recording session, 'Carnegie Hall Recorders', NYC,

Manday/Tuesday, December 1 & 2, 1947.

CR: MERCURY RECORDS.

Doug Mettome,Al Porcino,Ray Wetzel(tp); Bill Harris(tb); Bart Varsalona(b-tb); Vinnie Jacobs(frh); John LaPorta(cl); Charlie Parker,Sonny Salad,Murray Williams(as); Pete Mondello,Flip Phillips(ts); Manny Albam(bs); Gene Orloff(vln, concertmaster); Sam Caplan,Manny Fiddler, Sid Harris,Harry Katzman,Zelly Smirnoff(vln); Nat Nathanson,Fred Ruzilla(viola); Joe Benaventi(cello); Tony Aless(p); Curly Russell(b); Diego Iborra(perc); Shelly Manne(ds); Neal Hefti(arr,cond).

Edited June 30, 2009 by Niko

[BillF]

Sonny Salad was an alto saxophonist who played mostly in Ray McKinley's big band. His main claim to fame was being part of the band that recorded Neal Hefti's 'Repetition' with Charlie Parket for the 'Jazz Scene' project.

interesting to see gene orloff in there, he had this real impressive career later on

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&a...g9fpxqlgld0e~T4

(and iirc some of these are lps where i actually found the string section pretty good like yusef lateef's detroit or with roland kirk...)

CHARLIE PARKER with NEAL HEFTI'S ORCHESTRA

Recording session, 'Carnegie Hall Recorders', NYC,

Manday/Tuesday, December 1 & 2, 1947.

CR: MERCURY RECORDS.

Doug Mettome,Al Porcino,Ray Wetzel(tp); Bill Harris(tb); Bart Varsalona(b-tb); Vinnie Jacobs(frh); John LaPorta(cl); Charlie Parker,Sonny Salad,Murray Williams(as); Pete Mondello,Flip Phillips(ts); Manny Albam(bs); Gene Orloff(vln, concertmaster); Sam Caplan,Manny Fiddler, Sid Harris,Harry Katzman,Zelly Smirnoff(vln); Nat Nathanson,Fred Ruzilla(viola); Joe Benaventi(cello); Tony Aless(p); Curly Russell(b); Diego Iborra(perc); Shelly Manne(ds); Neal Hefti(arr,cond).

Salad provided the refreshments, Smirnoff the drinks and Fiddler did the accounts.

[JSngry]

didn't leave many traces..., sounds like a corruption, salvatore salato...

Ah....that makes sense.

[flat5]

Oh boy! Another Sonny to add to my sax list. That makes eight.

[Niko]

Oh boy! Another Sonny to add to my sax list. That makes eight.

cox, criss, red, rollins, simmons, stitt, salad, and?

Edited June 30, 2009 by Niko

[BillF]

Oh boy! Another Sonny to add to my sax list. That makes eight.

cox, criss, red, rollins, simmons, stitt, salad, and?

Fortune?

[Niko]

Oh boy! Another Sonny to add to my sax list. That makes eight.

cox, criss, red, rollins, simmons, stitt, salad, and?

Fortune?

ah... but there got to be more!

[Niko]

ok, noone on this list who's overly well-known

Sonny Carrington, 1, 1981, ts

Kari "Sonny" Heinila, 27, 1985-2004, ts,sop,fl,reeds,saxes,cond,kaval,selje-fl,ney

Sonny McBroom, 14, 1978-1998, woodwinds,saxes,ts

Sonny Saldana, 3, 1941-1942, reeds

Sonny Thorp, 3, 1936, cl,as.

Sonny Fredericks, 4, 1937-1941, ts

Sonny Gill, 2, 1942, sax,vcl

but - sonny saldana might well be sonny salad under his original name... (and a spanish one i guess, not italian)

Edited June 30, 2009 by Niko

[jazztrain]

There's a mention of Sonny Salad in Stephen Taylor's "Fats Waller on the Air" in reference to a performance of "Always" on a September 18, 1937 "Saturday Night Swing Club" broadcast. An excerpt from Bob Inman's diary refers to "11 year old Sonny Salad from Schenectady, playing a fair clarinet" on the tune backed by the band.

There's also a reference to Sonny Salad likely being a member (on reeds and flute) of the Sinatra Symphonette, a group that backed Sinatra on the twice weekly "To Be Perfectly Frank" program that aired on the Blue Network (and later on AFRTS) from late 1953 to the spring of 1955. Here's a link (see FAQ 4): http://www.songsbysinatra.com/faq/faq_b3.html

[Spontooneous]

Those so-and-sos at UMG think of everything...

Sonny Salad Artist Page

[flat5]

Yes and Sonny Lewis. Thanks For Sonny Cox.

Edit: I see Nico has added more Sonnys.

Edited July 1, 2009 by flat5

[Niko]

There's a mention of Sonny Salad in Stephen Taylor's "Fats Waller on the Air" in reference to a performance of "Always" on a September 18, 1937 "Saturday Night Swing Club" broadcast. An excerpt from Bob Inman's diary refers to "11 year old Sonny Salad from Schenectady, playing a fair clarinet" on the tune backed by the band.

There's also a reference to Sonny Salad likely being a member (on reeds and flute) of the Sinatra Symphonette, a group that backed Sinatra on the twice weekly "To Be Perfectly Frank" program that aired on the Blue Network (and later on AFRTS) from late 1953 to the spring of 1955. Here's a link (see FAQ 4): http://www.songsbysinatra.com/faq/faq_b3.html

thanks! if he was called sonny salad already at 11 that makes it unlikely he was the same as sonny saldana but who knows... another mention of him with sinatra in the second article i linked to... born in 1926, just like john coltrane...