TedR Posted January 22, 2012 Report Posted January 22, 2012 CBS Morning news just reported that Joe Paterno died. Quote
JETman Posted January 22, 2012 Report Posted January 22, 2012 CBS Morning news just reported that Joe Paterno died. That's one way to escape. Quote
Dan Gould Posted January 22, 2012 Report Posted January 22, 2012 CBS Morning news just reported that Joe Paterno died. That's one way to escape. Thanks for showing everyone the kind of person you are. Quote
JETman Posted January 22, 2012 Report Posted January 22, 2012 CBS Morning news just reported that Joe Paterno died. That's one way to escape. Thanks for showing everyone the kind of person you are. I feel no need to justify what I said. Back off, Dan, and grow up. One comment does not a person make. Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted January 22, 2012 Report Posted January 22, 2012 RIP Joe. Great coach who earned the respect and admiration of 10's of thousands of Penn State Nittany Lions. It's unfortunate that the man's legacy has become so tarnished by the ineptitude of his school's administration. Everyone has an opinion about what Joe should have done when told what was witnessed. What he did was report it to his bosses. What they did was criminal (and is being tried as such). My opinion - what Joe did was stupid. Yes, I would have told my bosses immediately, but if they did not call the cops, I would have called PDQ. Not doing anything because your bosses failed, well... stupid is good word. Of course, I'm one generation removed from Joe. History shows that my father's generation liked to pretend that shit like this never happens i.e. look at the catholic church. Quote
alocispepraluger102 Posted January 22, 2012 Report Posted January 22, 2012 (edited) it would seem that one's legacy is often remarkably colored by the date and timing of their demise. a paterno death perhaps a year or more ago might have led to a much different public reaction. this makes one wonder if miles, trane, ayler, bird, eric, or bix had lived into new eras, their golden legacies might be considerably different. Edited January 22, 2012 by alocispepraluger102 Quote
BruceH Posted January 22, 2012 Report Posted January 22, 2012 RIP Joe. Great coach who earned the respect and admiration of 10's of thousands of Penn State Nittany Lions. It's unfortunate that the man's legacy has become so tarnished by the ineptitude of his school's administration. Everyone has an opinion about what Joe should have done when told what was witnessed. What he did was report it to his bosses. What they did was criminal (and is being tried as such). My opinion - what Joe did was stupid. Yes, I would have told my bosses immediately, but if they did not call the cops, I would have called PDQ. Not doing anything because your bosses failed, well... stupid is good word. Of course, I'm one generation removed from Joe. History shows that my father's generation liked to pretend that shit like this never happens i.e. look at the catholic church. I'm pretty much with you on this one, Kevin. In hindsight it's clear he probably should have called the cops first, the administration second. But I'd say he's more at peace now than in the last few months of his life. Quote
BFrank Posted January 22, 2012 Report Posted January 22, 2012 Somewhat reminiscent of Ken Lay's departure. Quote
alocispepraluger102 Posted January 22, 2012 Report Posted January 22, 2012 Somewhat reminiscent of Ken Lay's departure. which reminds me----there are several lengthy detailed articles about zealous federal prosecutors who, at the time, had a hard-on for lay. it's called something like--"the truth about enron". to many, the venom cast upon paterno is vaguely reminiscent of the ken lay witch hunt, while others have no problem with his sandusky responses. Quote
JETman Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 As I've mentioned many times before, Joe Pa's long list of offenses began well before he even met Sandusky. I don't mean to sound like a holy roller, but his ultimate day of atonement has come. Quote
paul secor Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 If there were no such thing as football, Joe Paterno probably would have spent his years running a pizza parlor. Quote
JETman Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 If there were no such thing as football, Joe Paterno probably would have spent his years running a pizza parlor. and I'm afraid most professional football players would've ended up working there. Quote
JETman Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 Somewhat reminiscent of Ken Lay's departure. which reminds me----there are several lengthy detailed articles about zealous federal prosecutors who, at the time, had a hard-on for lay. it's called something like--"the truth about enron". to many, the venom cast upon paterno is vaguely reminiscent of the ken lay witch hunt, while others have no problem with his sandusky responses. Given the circumstances of many hard-working people being left penniless and with the prospect of working until they died, I'd say that the "hard-on for Lay" (no pun intended) that federal prosecutors had was more than FUCKING well justified. See, sometimes a little government intervention IS necessary to keep the pricks in line. With college football, on the other hand, the government didn't do and has never done enough to prevent the knuckleheads of the NCAA from playing a hand in ruining the "youts" of our nation. Guys like Paterno were always pawns in big money college sports programs, and they drank the kool-aid. Quote
Indestructible! Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 As I've mentioned many times before, Joe Pa's long list of offenses began well before he even met Sandusky. And as I asked you in those other threads... name these "offenses", or kindly STFU. Quote
JETman Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 As I've mentioned many times before, Joe Pa's long list of offenses began well before he even met Sandusky. And as I asked you in those other threads... name these "offenses", or kindly STFU. Read my last post, westie! Quote
Dan Gould Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 "Ruining 'youts'" isn't a list of offenses. But keep posting. Your character comes through loud and clear. Quote
Dave James Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 Former Penn State QB, Todd Blackledge said on ESPN today that Paterno died of a broken heart. Probably not too far from the truth. Quote
JETman Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 "Ruining 'youts'" isn't a list of offenses. But keep posting. Your character comes through loud and clear. How sweet of you, Dan!!! Sticking up for one of your West Coast jazz brothers. You should be nominated for sainthood And, YES it is. College is about learning, not about sports. Teaching the tough guy mentality to our "youts" has gone on for far too long. Where has it gotten us??? Chest bumping and bad ass talk in the NBA, shooting guns in the NFL, and so on. If you don't get it, then you're more far gone than I thought. Quote
Dan Gould Posted January 24, 2012 Report Posted January 24, 2012 That's the sum total of his "offenses" for which you believe he's found a toasty spot in hell? Are you f-ing serious? And oh by the way, no one needs to go to college to absorb a "tough guy mentality". Quote
Indestructible! Posted January 24, 2012 Report Posted January 24, 2012 "Ruining 'youts'" isn't a list of offenses. But keep posting. Your character comes through loud and clear. How sweet of you, Dan!!! Sticking up for one of your West Coast jazz brothers. You should be nominated for sainthood And, YES it is. College is about learning, not about sports. Teaching the tough guy mentality to our "youts" has gone on for far too long. Where has it gotten us??? Chest bumping and bad ass talk in the NBA, shooting guns in the NFL, and so on. If you don't get it, then you're more far gone than I thought. Given how much you like to shoot your mouth off on this board, you must've lettered in at least a half dozen sports in college. And thank you for enlightening me on what college is for... I'd have never guessed. Are you seriously asserting that one cannot learn through sport participation (other than "bad ass talk" and "shooting guns")? You might want to read some of the research literature on the topic before you spout such drivel. Quote
alocispepraluger102 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Posted January 24, 2012 isn't this halo painted on an outdoor work going a wee tad far? Quote
BFrank Posted January 24, 2012 Report Posted January 24, 2012 For a little insight into the workings of the NCAA, read Joe Nocera's recent series of Editorials in the NY Times. Quote
alocispepraluger102 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Posted January 24, 2012 For a little insight into the workings of the NCAA, read Joe Nocera's recent series of Editorials in the NY Times. thx- Quote
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