The ultimate high school jazz band director

[Larry Kart]

[JSngry]

That's uncomfortable to watch.

[Larry Kart]

That's uncomfortable to watch.

Ya think?

[JSngry]

Yeah...

Is that based on a true story or are people just working out other personal issues with that story?

[Larry Kart]

Well, at least in today's world (most of it) his ass probably would have been fired the next day.

P.S. I particularly like, given the total dramatic context, J.K. Simmons' early, or maybe it's his initial, line: "Not quite my tempo...it's all good..."

[Chuck Nessa]

Saw this a few days ago. Still don't know the film this is from. Any answers? It is amazingly well done.

[Larry Kart]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiplash_(2014_film)

[Chuck Nessa]

thanks. sometimes i am stupid.

[colinmce]

Read about this while it was working the festivals last year. Sounds like it's worth a watch.

[JSngry]

Sorry, not looking at any more of that since it's all "drama" and not based on a true story. Personal choice.

People who find that kind of thing entertaining should avail themselves of the opportunity to work with certain bandleaders and then go hit a kid of their choice just because. Let's see how "dramatically compelling" that all gets then.

[Larry Kart]

Sorry, not looking at any more of that since it's all "drama" and not based on a true story. Personal choice.

People who find that kind of thing entertaining should avail themselves of the opportunity to work with certain bandleaders and then go hit a kid of their choice just because. Let's see how "dramatically compelling" that all gets then.

OK, it's ugly. But did you watch, say, "Straw Dogs"? Or "Clockwork Orange"? Hey, I found "Pinnochio" damn disturbing, albeit I was seven at the time.

[Michael Weiss]

It was hilarious until he slapped him. That took it to a whole other place... Didn't have to go there.

[Larry Kart]

From John Cage's "Indeterminacy":

On another occasion, Schoenberg asked a
girl in his class to go to the piano and play
the first movement of a Beethoven sonata,
which was afterwards to be analyzed.
She said, “It is too difficult.
I can’t play it.” Schoenberg
said, “You’re a pianist, aren’t you?”
She said, “Yes.” He said,
“Then go to the piano.” She did.
She had no sooner begun playing than
he stopped her to say that she was not
playing at the proper tempo. She
said that if she played at the proper tempo,
she would make mistakes.He said,

“Play at the proper tempo
and do not make mistakes.” She began
again, and he stopped her immediately
to say that she was making mistakes.
She then burst into tears and between
sobs explained that she had gone to the
dentist earlier that day and that she’d
had a tooth pulled out. He
said, “Do you have to have a tooth
pulled out in order to make mistakes?”

[JSngry]

And then Schoenberg smacked the bitch good, got out a pair of pliers, and then yanked another tooth out. "There, make twice as many mistakes and be done with it", he glowered while swinging the pliers holding the bloody tooth in such a way that if she even half as much as flinched, they'd hit her, hit her hard.

Sorry, but there are some things I just won't watch. "Straw Dogs", fine. "Clockwork Orange", fine. Certain types of porn involving very realistic role-playing, fine.

But other things, no. This is one of those things. Like I said, personal choice, and not a "broad" value-judgement. And, apart from me throwing in my two-cents worth, of no meaning one way or the other.

[Spontooneous]

I know a former elementary music teacher who was fired for throwing a tamborine at a kid. It drew blood.