medjuck Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 I'm pretty sure there's already a thread about this release but I can't find it using search. On the first disc Bobby Tucker introduces two songs ("Good Morning Heartache" and" I Wonder Where Our Love has Gone") with a tune that's very familiar to me but I can't remember what it is. Then to drive me even more nuts, on cd 2 Carl Drinkard uses the same tune as an outro on "I Cried for You" and "What A Little Moonlight Can Do". Please someone: name that song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l p Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 ellington tune? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l p Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) at 0:44 Edited July 1, 2015 by l p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted July 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Wow! You're right! WTF! Why are they playing that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Maybe for the "Holiday" aspect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l p Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Maybe for the "Holiday" aspect?that's probably right. 'lady be good' is also used as a theme by the piano player, i think at her later concerts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agriffith Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 By the way, the unidentified bass feature during the instrumental medley (track 10, disc 1) is "Jumpin' Punkins" by Mercer Ellington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 you sure you think Mercer wrote it? From what I heard Duke was putting Mercer's name on things for tax purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted July 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 I don't think it was for tax purposes but rather that as a member of ASCAP Duke couldn't record any of his songs whereas Mercer and Billy Strayhorn were members of BMI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agriffith Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 you sure you think Mercer wrote it? From what I heard Duke was putting Mercer's name on things for tax purposes.I would imagine Duke actually wrote it; sounds like him of course. And, yes I knew about the ASCAP/BMI thing; thanks for mentioning that Medjuck.Should have clarified that when I posted. On a similar note: although Mercer is credited as writing "Things Ain't What They Used to Be", it is actually a Johnny Hodges piece (no surprise); Hodges "lost" the piece to Duke in a card game! Then Duke had Mercer put his name on it because of the BMI/ASCAP thing. Anyway, just some trivia I heard from a member of the Ellington band, who heard it from Mercer himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted July 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 I once heard a dj play "Things.." and announce that it was by Johnny Mercer and Duke Ellington. I guess he looked at the label. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l p Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 On 7/22/2015 at 4:49 PM, AllenLowe said: you sure you think Mercer wrote it? From what I heard Duke was putting Mercer's name on things for tax purposes. Duke Ellington The Duke Box (8 CDs - 2006) Storyville Records CD 5 (55:29) 11Dec43, Carnegie Hall, NYC 4. Moon Mist duke introduces this tune as 'written by my son, mercer ellington'. why would he make a public announcement like this if it's just for tax purposes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alankin Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 I thought it was due to the recording ban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazztrain Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 (edited) On 7/24/2015 at 1:00 PM, agriffith said: I would imagine Duke actually wrote it; sounds like him of course. And, yes I knew about the ASCAP/BMI thing; thanks for mentioning that Medjuck. Should have clarified that when I posted. On a similar note: although Mercer is credited as writing "Things Ain't What They Used to Be", it is actually a Johnny Hodges piece (no surprise); Hodges "lost" the piece to Duke in a card game! Then Duke had Mercer put his name on it because of the BMI/ASCAP thing. Anyway, just some trivia I heard from a member of the Ellington band, who heard it from Mercer himself. The original title of "Things Ain't What They Used to Be" was "Time's A-Wastin'" Edited April 13, 2016 by jazztrain clarification Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l p Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 39 minutes ago, jazztrain said: The original title of "Things Ain't What They Used to Be" was "Time's A-Wastin'" in concert, Wings And Things (written by hodges) was often played as a continuation of Things Ain't What They Used to Be (at least in 1966). Wings seems like a natural extension of Things Ain't What They Used to Be. on those july 1966 antibes shows hodges just seems to be soloing forever when playing this medley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 why wouldn't he announce Mercer as the composer if he had done it for tax purposes? Otherwise he would be admitting to having broken the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l p Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 (edited) why make the announcement? it's not like he habitually announced each tune and its composer at concerts, especially in these early days. Edited April 13, 2016 by l p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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