fasstrack I understand your point, and I know a million melodies, I play chord changes, I know where a song begins and ends - but there are other ways to do it, other kinds of professionalism. By your standard Blind Lemon Jefferson was an amateur - but there's always something somebody can't do, and pure professionalism, as you no doubt know, ain't art (or we'd all be society players). And there are other kinds of melody. But you have to allow other ways to do it - just as a free musician shouldn't put you down for what you play. Some of the alternative musicians are well schooled (eg Roswell Rudd can play anything you put in front of him) - and some just do what they do with feeling and expression. You are making the same mistake people made in the '50s when they put down Monk (and I don't care what Mary Lou Williams says, he never sounded like Teddy Wilson) -