AllenLowe

I agree - and it's interesting because a critic like Martin Williams, as I recall, downplayed Tristano et al's importance by saying that he thought they had little influence - and yet I have seen more than one quote from avant gardists citing the Tristano school as early inspiration (and Julius Hemphill told me he particularly admired Lee Konitz) - from what Julius told me he was as effected by the spirit of the music (its attempt to stretch accepted forms) as he was by the actual music itself, and that these guys represented an early attempt to violate jazz norms that was quite inspiring -

well, all of them were breast fed - too late about that now - but the mortality rate is high with that - and, as my mother told me - words to live a long life by - "Never take candy from strangers - unless they also offer you a ride."

yes - like Groucho said, he's worked his way up from nothing to a state of extreme poverty -

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sorry to hear that about his management - but he won't be the first musician whose manager had similar delusions - the untold story of jazz is of the careers of musicians whose bad business decisions (and those of their management) have turned potential success to middling acceptance - and some of those names have cropped up in this thread -

there's also ass-wipe - one of my all-time favorites -

actually, should be smartass - or: smart ass - or: sm ar t ass or: s m a r ta s s

you might ask him if he's ever seen Jazz on a Summer's day - in which I believe he appears (with Monk?) - also, how he could possibly not have known about Albert Ayler's death - also maybe about working with Sonny Rollins -

is that pig still alive?

I think we need the cone of silence for Zwerin...

actually, Jim, I think Zwerin just got confused - he meant to say "The Theme From Get Smart" -

Jim - 1) not only do Get Smart and Walkin' sound too much alike - they have almost the identical chromatic descending phrase at the end (sure, they're 1 step apart, but that's a musical smokescreen) I know a lot of spy movies/tv shows used these basic blues phrases, but these two are just too close to avoid plagiarism charges - 2) Topsy: Sorry - gotta disagree with you her, whatever the source - we have two copywritten pop tunes, and Durham's came first - 3) Bag's Groove and the Odd Couple Theme have identical melodies, pure and simple. Case closed -

just to add that Al Lewis is a hipster and a jazz fan - John Szwed told me he ran into him at a Jazz Journalist Association event last year in NYC -

1) getting back to this late - the whole feel of the Get Smart theme, the way it phrases etc etc is a real ripoff of Walkin - don't have the music in front of me but listen to both and you know the Get Smart composer ripped it off - listen to the opening phrase of Get Smart and the end - it doesn't have to be note for note to be a steal - 2) Inspector Gadget is almost exactly Topsy - I got a call from Eddie Durham's daughter about 10 years ago on this and she was talking about suing but I don't think anything ever came of it - 3) and Bag's Groove/Odd Couple Theme are absurdly close - Neal Hefti shoulda sent Milt Jackson some money on this one - we're not talking theory but a theft of feeling and basic melodic material -

Moon Mist - gorgeous and melancholy - Ellington, credited to Mercer, ca. 1940 -

I understand your point Jim, but it's instructive that I saw him on a TV show playing after Claudio Roditi (Brazilian, I think) - who is also a virtuouso but a musical one, full of beautiful ideas, great sound, a brilliant jazz player -

nah - I got the REAL one -

man, that's strange - I guess it comes under the heading of: "you know you've made it when..."

well, at least I got Bird's axe -

well I'm glad it ain't just me, as his playing drives me nuts - and I mean that in the BAD way - maybe THAT'S why Castro didn't like him -

that everything Arturo Sandoval plays sounds like Flight of the Bumble Bee?

must be a coloring book -

they must know something - even if it's not about jazz -

so what's in it? Strangely enough, all the internet descriptions tell virtually nothing - Claxton ought to fire his agent and publicist -

forget about Bird - who are those two babes in the other picture?