AllenLowe

well, sooner or later this had to turn into a let's-attack-Francis Davis thread - now I HAVE to get this CD so I can defend him -

I agree, Chuck, and know we can remain friends - so let's get back to Clem and Faulkner -

no, just fighting back -

so, if I read this corectly, than Clementine's the narcissist - and Chuck, as well, for recognizing it (takes one to know one?)

not really sure that anything here meets the classic (or correct) definition of narcissism -

nothing laughable about those old records, songs or arrangements - the writing was excellent, playing wonderfully idiomatic - let's just understand that it's hard to view 1920s bands through 21st century eyes -

Actually, Cliff Edwards scatted even earlier than Armstrong -

thanks, jazzbo - I'll have to find my copy, as the cover looks very different, as I recall -

I'm going to disagree about the need for a pro to do the job - I learned photoshop on my own by just practicing and practicing, and did my own work for both the front and rear covers of my jazz history, which looks pretty damn good -

hey, I like that Voices of Haiti LP - are you referring to the Folkways?

I'm not sure of the exact percentages - if Jack is around, he may want to chime in -

well, I'm going to use this to plug a member of this board - the only record/CD place in the universe that I trust, that gives not only an honest trade-in for credit or cash, but that also tells you the truth about the value of something, is Stereo Jack's, in Cambridge Massachusettes - so that's where I go -

well, just as long as it's maintained -

I don't think it'll happen unless it's "unauthorized," as Sonny holds everything so close to the vest -

could be bull turds - or maybe that's more what he likes to serve -

interesting, to me, as much for what he doesn't say - this period is my favorite Sonny (love the Impulse and RCA recordings), but I also believe it indicates the beginning of a very confused journey - bells, mohawk haircuts, spiritual yearnings - I once had a very interesting conversation with the bassist Jamil Nasser who told me he thought that Rollins was sent spinning by Coltrane's rise in dominance; whereas Sonny had been the king of the hill prior, Coltrane was now the one on everyone's minds - and within a few years (not to start that old thread again) he would basically stop making decent recordings and begin the accumulation of electric baggage -

Der. Rat nails it, as far as Clem's style, IMHO - but I do disagree about finding Faulkner sloppy and unedited - Sound and Fury is it's own universe -

a true giant, and what a pity he gave up music - even understanding the conditions that made him do it, he's one of those who, if he had stayed active, would eventually have reaped the benefits both here and in Europe -

I believe he was from up here in Maine - has a brother who's a great acoustic player -

August Light is my favorite - nothing Clementine-ish about it - and speaking of Faulkner, you might find the Southern novelist WIlliam Gay intersting - writes beautifully in that Southern vein. Nice guy, too -

CLem and Faulkner? Puuuuhhhhleeaaaase... give me a break. I find Clem's posting to be second rate stream of consciousness. Even when I agree with it -

Clem is extremely smart, no question about it - but so is Karl Rove, and I wouldn't want him as a penpal, either -

well, than, let's make that semi-literate - after all, who knows if he really read that stuff or was, in reality, consulting the post-modernist edition of cliff-notes?

exactly - I first heard him playing with Craig Harris in the 1980s, and called him up afterwards to do a session - he was flattered to be called, but he really has something that shines in a free context - on the tunes with chord changes I can almost hear him thinking - he's figured out how to do it from an analytical standpoint, but it just does not come together, IMHO -

actually that chord progression and basic melodic outline was around for quite awhile, probably derived from ragtime - somewhere I have a recording of a South American string band playing with that chord progression prior to 1920 -