AllenLowe

I have known Randy for 25 years and have always felt he was one of the best-kept secrets in jazz - he has always gone in and out of the trad scene, though his natural style is much more contemporary - as a matter of fact he played on my Woyzeck CD, on both standard-changes and free material - a brilliant trumpeter, arranger, and all-around very knowledgeable guy (also played at my wedding) -

the ACE CEDAR connection comes from an interview I read quite a while back, and they were referring to disc-based transfers - there is simply no other way to do it without going insane, and I am certain it is used on virtually all the reissues that come out - the problem, as you touched on, is lazy engineers who use one setting for everything and are too lazy to listen or re-do - if you are in this business and don't realize how wide-spread CEDAR use is, than you need to make some calls - it is EVERYWHERE - I'm almost sure Uptown used it on the recent Town Hall/Bird - or let's ask Chuck - call Seth Winner in Brooklyn, who does TONS of reissues, or Doug Pomeroy -

also be aware that any sound restoration is only as good as the original tranfer - and there is a LOT of bad transfer work done - bad turntables, wrong styli, bad A/d conversions, bad sources, etc etc

may be - that's why I would urge everybody who is serious about listening to get a decent EQ built into their systems - you can really brings things alive with even a 10-band EQ if you know where to go (usuually 3500-8000K) -

hey Dave - left a VM on your cell -

ACE records in Englnd - which does some of the best sounding reissues - uses CEDAR for their disc-based reissues -

the Louis Armstrong Sony's all use CEDAR - and those sound pretty good -

as I mentioned, it is everywhere - there is no other effective way to remove noise - I'm willing to bet that there is no pre-war reissue that doesn't use CEDAR or some similar method - so if you refuse to buy recordings with noise reduction you are not going to have anything older to listen to

not true - Mosaic uses it on all of their reissues - I have talked to one of their engineers - you are probably hearing CEDAR on good recordings and just don't know it, as it is the standard, though not all companies will indicate it on the liners - John RT Davies used it for at least the last 10 years of his life; every SONY, every BMG, etc etc uses it - it is used on virtually every Euro reissue, good and bad; it is on all of the BMG "secret history of rock and roll" reissue; also Yazoo uses it (sparingly) - it's really everywhere - as I said, I'd be happy to give some samples - LP or 78, whatever you guys prefer -

another thing to consider - I've heard many historical reissues in which the dull sound was not the result of de-noising but of mastering EQ - a perfect example of this is the original Jelly Roll Morton box, which was attacked as having too much processing - the real problem was mastering (or post-mastering) EQ, and I have been able to get incredibly good sound out of this box with some tweaking - so one has to consider all stages of the process - many companies will try to EQ out the noise, and this can be very unfortunate -

Cedar used properly is nothing short of miraculous - on this forum I already did some work for Dan Gould, but more significant was an a/b I did for some forum members on the Benny Goodman Carnegoe Hall - adding Cedar to the reissue, which was not done originally. All agreed the post-Cedar was a major improvement. The bad Cedars you hav heard were probably the result of 1) over use of de-hiss - this should be used sparingly if at all, and 2) distortion introduced by too much processing - if you want a sample, send me a CDR and I'd be happy to comply -

when is it?

actually, I'm just happy to see you -

I meant that only in the nicest, most complimentary, positive, right-thinking, charitable, open-mnded, kind, compassionate, well-meaning, intellectual, emotional, obfuscatory way -

yes you are entitled to your opinion - now please, let us stay on topic -

with most consumer equipment, it is true that there is a real loss in transfer through analog-digital stage. However, I have an older but very nice symetrix 20 bit converter that uses noise shaping to convert to 16 bit, I have a high quality sound card, and a good editing program - I also use an audiophile turntable and a CEDAR system - and can hear no loss - the key is really the converters, getting it to the digital stage - plus decent monitors so you know what you are hearing -

thanks - is Dave Burns still alive? He was a terific trumpet player -

that led to the knife incident - where Diz cut Calloway on the buttocks - apparently, from what I was told, he did this because that's a spot that takes forever to heal (because of all the skin bending and stretching) - what did your dad do after he left Dizzy?

unless your name is COUW - in which case we will send you only side one -

yes, those Iraqui insurgents sure know how to press a record -

as usual Ron you are absolutely correct - just post credit card numbers here and I'll send you whatever LP I feel like - sort of like a grab bag - of course, they may be cracked or otherwise broken, but they came out of a Pinata -

must be that Bananas store -

well, for a PICTURE disc, send a picture of your credit card so all numbers and expiration date are visible (plus security code) -

sorry, that's the old price - each recording has had a cost-of-living increase - just send the credit card number and you'll find out next month what you paid -

on special this week are a few gatefold quadrophonic copies of Lou Donaldson's Hot Dog that were run over by an 18 wheel truck on route 95 - though unplayable (which they were even before the accident) they make very good coasters, and at $49.95 plus shipping are a collector's dream -