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First set will be on YouTube forever. I watched the first half yesterday. It was killing.
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33 minutes ago, Rooster_Ties said:
OK, I finally got to spin the first disc yesterday, and I'm about 1/3rd of the way through the second disc now.
Couple weeks ago, when I first heard about half the second disc, I had to have the volume WAY down (late night listening, with my wife in the other room). I suppose I could have uploaded it into iTunes off my CD's, and then bothered to update iTunes on my phone -- but who has time for all that.
ANYWAY, I have to say that at a louder volume finally, this all sounds pretty darn "reasonably good" -- and the performances are f'ing amazing. Absolutely love all the Woody on disc 1 -- line after line after line of searing stuff -- not unlike Woody's four studio appearances with Andrew Hill for Blue Note (especially than insane Halloween night 1967 studio date that opens disc #3 of the BN Select, the one with Sam Rivers and Howard Johnson).
Part of me is kind of "pick my jaw up off the floor" shocked that this even got released officially, and on physical media too (even CD!). Who the hell is "Roy Brooks"? Garnett too. Hell, nobody on the entire date is a name that'll really "sell" ('cept maybe Woody, and even then).
Plus, most of this thing is quite intense -- though maybe not as insanely so as I was experiencing trying hear it at super-low volume levels back before my trip to move my dad.
Still, QUITE intense -- and shit like this don't often see the light of day through official channels.
This was why I pushed Feldman to investigate Left Bank, despite his initial reluctance. At the time, I did not know partnering with Cory Weeds was an option. It has opened a lot of doors.
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4 hours ago, bresna said:
I imagine it's one of the producers associated with Impulse! Records. The last time I was in touch with someone at Impulse!, he was located in California. I thought LA, but maybe it was Beverly Hills.
I was being somewhat facetious. I am thinking they mean Zev Feldman. I could be wrong. He is involved in this. He lives in LA. Beverly Hills is part of LA, right?
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'A producer in Beverly Hills'. Scratching my head as to who it could possibly be.
What other juicy stuff is on those reel to reels?
The article finally corrects nonsense that keeps circulating: for a long time, Antibes was the only known live RECORDING of the full suite (not just some movements), but some have been claiming that Coltrane only PERFORMED it live once, a claim that could never actually be proven and now has been disproven.
I have an article on Cal Massey that claims the full suite was played at one of his festivals in Brooklyn. Not an impossible claim, but confirmation is needed. A friend of mine is pretty sure he heard Coltrane play the entire suite in NYC. Why not? I am sure there are many gigs between 1965 and 1967 for which we have no set lists. He could have performed it dozens of times.
Bertrand.
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All the later dates are available to download for free (legally, I assume) from my Public Library. I have not listened to them yet.
I plan to get the date with Stitt unless someone says it is lackluster. Library does not have that one.
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How is the set with Stitt? I have been eyeing that one.
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So there was never a single bonus track released from Crescent? Maybe I am thinking of the 2-CD 'Coltrane', which I have.
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I just found out that the woman on the cover of Street Lady was the sister of a friend of mine. She died in an unresolved homicide 40 years ago. Terrible.
Did we ever figure out what is on the cover of Mother Ship?
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I only have the GRP of Crescent, so I might upgrade. Was there once a 2-CD version or am I dreaming?
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It was. Pumped that I recognized Alan Shorter right away!
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Check my post in discography if you want to hear it RIGHT NOW 9/15 3:42PM
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You can listen right now!
WPI’s Jazz History Database kicks off a hot listening session Thursday September 16 on Zoom
3pm to 5:30 Sunny Murray special (JHDB From the Lab session)
5:30 – 6:30 A musical sampling of 40’s R&B as the Chicago blues was taking shape.
6:30 – 8:00 Worcester Hot Club: The Birth of the Blues–Chicago Style (Rick Hendra host)
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Sunny Murray (1937–2017) was the father of avant garde jazz drumming. A few days ahead of his birthday anniversary, we’ll consider Murray’s place in the music through the fraught, controversial, revealing (and rare!) case of his aborted 1968–69 LP project for Columbia Records. Only here; only now.
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A musical sampling of 40’s R&B as the Chicago blues was taking shape.
6:30pm–8:00 Worcester Hot Club
“The Birth of the Blues – Chicago Style” – the last session in our 5 part Zoom documentary on the blues, looking at the Chicago blues, old and new, and the transition from the Bluebird sound to the Chess sound; the role of Memphis and Sun Studio; and the battle between the sax and harmonica.
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Excellent.
If Feldman is looking for some more Blakey, there are two tracks with Kenny Dorham subbing for Lee Morgan at Newport in 1961 at the Library of Congress. This would have to be coupled with other material, e.g. the Blakey 1959 Newport with Mobley and Morgan that has never been officially released. I would buy it.
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Is a stream possible in the future?
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I respect that some people prefer vinyl, but the fact that it is driving the reissue market right now is absurd, and the price-gouging is shameful.
There was a reason they only released four tracks in the vinyl era.
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They talked to the right people and got some great quotes out of them.
Hank had it rough, and his life was ultimately very sad, but it makes me happy to see what an impact he had on future generations.
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On 9/8/2021 at 0:39 PM, ghost of miles said:
Remnick mentions Davis’ real-life phone calls to WKCR around that time in the New Yorker article. And yep, there’s a scene in the movie where Davis calls Schaap.
What was he calling about?
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The Worcester Hot Club/Jazz History Database Zoom session tomorrow will include a tribute to Phil. Details are in the ongoing thread on the Worcester Hot Club sessions in Live Shows and Festivals.
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WPI’s Jazz History Database kicks off a hot listening session Thursday September 9 on Zoom
3pm An extended meditation on the life of Phil Schaap (1951–2021)
5:30pm Hot music from 78s played by Charles Iselin and/or others
6:30pm Ras Moshe on Sam Rivers’s early 70s orchestra music
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3:00pm to .... Historian, teacher and broadcaster Phil Schaap died earlier this week. Respectful apologies for the abruptness of that announcement to those who are just now hearing this news. During this Thursday’s session we’ll consider Phil’s deep Jazz work on the planet. While listening to some of the timeless recordings that he helped us to hear better, we’ll collectively reflect on Phil’s influence on the study of Jazz as an art form, the lessons of his teaching, and his indelible mark on friends, colleagues, students and generations of listeners.
All are invited to fold in your observations and reminiscences with those of our several hosts, who have all studied in the Schaap school in one fashion or another.
This extraordinary session of Thursday’s Jazz Potpourri is expected to blend in some or all of the following in an organic way:
5:30pm 78 session with Charles Iselin and co.
6:30pm to 8 Ras Moshe presents some rare ensemble music written and led by multi-instrumentalist Sam Rivers (1923–2011)
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Who is Harry Weinger?
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46 minutes ago, MomsMobley said:
Schaap has some brilliant acolytes; Charles Iselin is one, Matthew "Fat Cat" Riviera, who's in his mid-twenties, is another. Without personal knowledge, I'm certain Phil's archives will be carefully attended to.
Charles Iselin is part of the weekly Worcester Hot Club/Jazz History Database Zoom meetings Every Thursday. I will see what I can find out. There are several Herbie Nichols acetates floating around. Time to gather them all...
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42 minutes ago, Dan Gould said:
I've had good contact with both the assistant and Sid Gribbetz the long-term jazz host. I think we can prevent a great loss of jazz history. Can't say the same for Chris A.'s stuff.
He had a Herbie Nichols acetate, maybe even two. I was going to ask him about it but he got sick...
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Does the opening track to Wayne Shorter's Phantom Navigator count?
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1 hour ago, Dan Gould said:
So you have this 1971 recording? Or you were a go-between? I'd be curious just about the band members at that time, all the same as the Lighthouse and And/Or recordings?
Harper, Mabern, Merritt and Billy Higgins.
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A version of VSOP with DeJohnette on drums played for the Left Bank Jazz Society on 12/4/66. Supposedly they wanted Miles but could not afford him. I wonder what material they played. No recording has surfaced, which means nothing when it comes to Left Bank.