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Yikes, are all Birdland livestreams that poor quality audio and video?
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On 8/12/2021 at 0:15 PM, sidewinder said:
Pure Pleasure have given a revised date of Sept 4 for the streaming event.
Do you have a link for this? Thanks!
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WPI’s Jazz History Database kicks off a hot listening session Thursday September 2 on Zoom
3pm Ornette Coleman at Slugs 1971 (JHDB From the Lab)
passim King Perry 78s with Bobby Bradford
7:00 Abbey Lincoln singing and talking
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3:00pm to 7pm At the brink of his 1971 Science Fiction recording sessions (and a major pivot in his working method) alto saxophonist Ornette Coleman’s sextet played a weekend at Slugs Saloon in the East Village. We mark the 50th anniversary of all these events with some rare sounds from those performances. If the sages favor us, our session will be joined by the surviving musician from that engagement, trumpeter Bobby Bradford… the icing on an already great cake!
Along the way we’ll take the opportunity to play and reflect on Bradford’s first recordings session, from nearly 20 years earlier in the band of King Perry. (We’ll also tip a cap to Worcester’s Jazz history with some music Bradford made 40 years ago here in town)
7:00pm to 9pm We hear vocalist Abbey Lincoln in some timeless classics of her career and also in interview narration about those music-making episodes.
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Thursday’s Jazz Potpourri is a weekly zoom session that unites the efforts of the JHDB, the Worcester Hot Club, Crossing Tones, and several independent researchers, collectors and enthusiasts. Follow on facebook for further updates.
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Fascinating.
I read the article in which Jackie said Connors ruined the date. And now he says he never heard it.
And Cuscuna said Wayne said that his session was a disaster and blamed Duke Pearson. Yet, when I was trying to find out what the pieces on the session were for Michelle Mercer's book, Wayne told her that he had never heard it either.
Interesting parallel.
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Thank you for posting this! Irene is a wonderful artist and a good friend of mine. I got her a couple of gigs in the DC area and catch her when I can. I contributed towards this project. Looking forward to hearing it!
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22 minutes ago, clifford_thornton said:
I'll definitely buy it, but as lavish as the LP version looks, I won't be splashing out for that behemoth. The hype is exhausting but that comes with the territory for a lot of these releases.
Certain releases get an extra dose of hype...
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49 minutes ago, Ken Dryden said:
VSOP, Acrobat and a number of UK labels (particularly historical recordings, broadcasts) seem to have switched to CDRs.
If you mean the Progressive label CDs issued by Jazzology, I haven't seen any CDRs, other than advance promos, so far.
Yes, the Jazzology ones. I am thinking of the Sonny Stitt/Sadik Hakim.
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10 minutes ago, Chuck Nessa said:
Notice the opened sleeve at the top! 2 pockets.
Oh, good, so the CDs won't get scratched being right next to each other. The bottom photos almost made it look like two CDs are in one pocket. Thanks!
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I am very glad this came out and I am looking forward to getting it very soon.
Sorry to be a bit negative, but I for one am already done with all the media hoopla. What exactly is the discovery here? We knew this was great music back when they released the 3-CD set, and that package added a lot to the original 2-LP set, if only for all the extra Bennie Maupin compositions.
But this set has no additional compositions, just additional takes. A dream in any case for Morgan fans and fans of great music in general, but ultimately, there is no real discovery. All the takes could have been released years ago. One Blue Note manager just over-ruled a decision made by a previous Blue Note manager.
6 minutes ago, Chuck Nessa said:No.
Oh, so two CDs are together? Is it one to the left and one to the right or are they right next to each other? Looking at the case that is opened up, it look like there is only one opening on the right and both CDs are in there.
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On 8/24/2021 at 10:47 PM, Chuck Nessa said:
circa 5.5" x 5.25" x 1.5".
So it is about 4-CD jewel cases wide? I guess the CDs are in slim cases?
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I am eyeing a title on Progressive records.
I have at least one CD on that label that is a real CD. Am I dreaming or did it come up later that they are now making CDrs only? Maybe that was VSOP.
So, simple question: has anyone bought a Progressive CD that was a CDr or am I safe?
Thanks!
Bertrand.
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Staying out of the wrong hands. LOL.
I will get it at soon as I get confirmation there are no pitch correction issues. Think Palo Alto.
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WPI’s Jazz History Database kicks off a hot listening session Thursday August 26 on Zoom
3:00pm Another cluster of Newport sounds (JHDB From the Lab)
7:00 Charles Iselin spins hot wax from 78s
8:00 A Phineas Newborn rarity (Crossing Tones Power Hour—Charles Iselin hosts)
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3:00pm to 7:00 More historic Newport Jazz Festival sounds—and another surprise portion of our month at Newport. We’ll check in with several sets from different decades that blend Jazz and Blues (and other?) constituencies. Tune in and find out!
7:00pm to 8:00 Charles Iselin’s set will feature some Lionel Hampton 78s, among other items.
8:00pm to 9:00 The Crossing Tones Power Hour unveils an unusual informal recording of pianist Phineas Newborn. Charles Iselin will walk us through the sounds.
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I plan to get this in a couple of weeks after I make it through some backlog.
I have a question about the packaging - is this the size of multiple CD jewel cases (how many roughly?) like the previous 3-CD set or is it a big-ass Mosaic-style box? I want to figure out if it can fit on my CD shelves or I have to plan to keep it with the Mosaic boxes. Thanks!
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21 hours ago, JSngry said:
Ok, just finishing up on the "liner note running order", and leading the album off with "Images" and running Side A like that works. Really well. Where it gets weird is going straight from "Blues At Midnight" into "Velvet" and then into "Saturn". But that's on CD, if that was the LP order and you could take a few minutes/days to flip the record over, that might work just fine. And definitely, ending on "Ancient Aiethopia"...that jsut works for me. They got that right on Saturn, for sure.
Not sure if I'm ready for Saturn LPs in "audiophile quality", but I'm glad it exists for future generations (and maybe the next go-round...or maybe this one...something like The Nubians Of Plutonia will appeal in that quality of sound. Right now, the "distance" of the Saturn LP sound is a part of how I'm still processing that music. I've built the sound of those records into the sound of that music. Not sure I'm ready - or needing - to make a new bifurcation. Yet.
Also, I'm willing to accept that there are some vinyl rips in the Evidence, especially on The Singles. But I have both the Evidence & Strut iterations of that concept, and...again, there's a different set of esthetics at play in considering the sound of the music and the sound of the record. I can dig both, but it kind of pisses me off that in order to get the full range of "Sun Ra Singles", I still have to have both - and that to get all the material that either generated or created all of THAT, I still need to get some even more shit, some of which, like the Atavistic stuff, is wonderful, but some of which, like the Norton Doo-Wop stuff, is just...trying. At some point...old 45s sounding like what they are is ok with me.
I grew up on 45s, my fiorst records were various 45s and Little Golden Record 78s. LPs were what my parents had, and "hi fi" was nothing that any of us had. so, you know, the die was cast early enough to never be completely re-cast.
Anyway, back to Jazz In Silhouette, I think I like the "liner note" running order of Side A just fine, opening up with a solo piano intro is a very good fit. And I definitely like the Saturn A-B side order better. It's only on that "in between" stuff that this changing around gets sticky, and quite possibly that's because of the CD format. I know I've had more than one Blue Note/etc record lose a little magic for me on CD just because programming LP sides, individually, is an art unto itself, even/especially something as "abstract" as a collection of jazz vehicles from various sources dictated at least in part by commerce.
Anyway,...check it out if you got the time and the inclination.
Is it possible the song titles were jumbled rather than the running order?
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4 hours ago, jazzbo said:
Yes I ordered directly from that page. Another 5 dollars for postage, and I had it within a week.
Ronnie Ball is a good guess as pianist. . . it doesn't sound like Nichols to me, at least not first listen.
I will get this, but definitely keep us posted on your guesses!
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Offering is the one from Temple?
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Quick post, don't have much time.
Check out my post in the live shows forum about the Worcester Hot Club This MAY be a rare chance to hear the 1961 Messengers gig with Shorter and Dorham. Not 100% sure that is what is being played. Also Andrew Hill and Rahsaan in the mix.
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WPI’s Jazz History Database kicks off a hot listening session Thursday August 19 on Zoom:
3pm more Newport news: Rahsaan, Getz, and Art Blakey (JHDB From the Lab)
5:30 Dinner music – appetizers for tonight’s session on the Delta/Memphis blues.
6:30 Worcester Hot Club session on the Delta/Memphis blues, with Rick Hendra.
8:00 A little exit music, from Memphis.
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3pm to 5:30 More historic Newport Jazz sounds. We’ll focus on a wrinkle in the festival’s history, the transitional years of 1961 and 62, for sets played by Rahsaan Roland Kirk, Stan Getz, and The Jazz Messengers. Among the starring sidemen are Roy Haynes, Andrew Hill, Scotty LaFaro—and is that Wayne Shorter?
5:30pm to 8+ This week’s session on the Delta/Memphis blues is the 4th episode in Hendra’s Zoomentary-in-the-making, The Story Of The Blues, which is the story of the Great Migration set to music and pictured in some detail (the Zoom advantage). We’ve already broadcast the previous three sessions on the classic vaudeville blues, the Piedmont Blues, and 40’s Jump Blues/R&B here on Thursday's Jazz Potpourri. The fifth and final episode, on the Chicago Blues, will air right here again in September.
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This may be a rare opportunity to hear the 1961 Blakey band with Dorham and Shorter, assuming that is what is being played.
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1 hour ago, JSngry said:
Not to my ears, but I have a pretty wide tolerance for that type of thing.
The "problem" for me on that one is that there's not the best balance between instruments. But you can use your imagination there.
It's an important document, imo. "Listenability" is more of an entertainment factor.
They may be able to improve it sonically also. The old version is 20 years old or more, right?
The last gig at Left Bank was 'most likely' not recorded. I am talking to the guy who would have recorded it (in lieu of Vernon Welsh) but he was assigned to take photos. Can't do both I guess.
Maybe Coltrane asked for no recording, but that is strictly speculative.
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Is the Olatunji CD really unlistenable?
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2 hours ago, Guy Berger said:
I feel similar to you about both of those. The 1966 live dates feel more "settled" than Live in Seattle, like the band was moving in a specific direction
I don't think the sound is that bad! Certainly better than the sound of the August 1965 Chicago live recording w/Archie Shepp or the 1967 Olatunji center recording.
Tell me more about the 1965 live date with Shepp...
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2 hours ago, thirdtry said:
DeepDiscount.com is currently running a code (SCHOOL) good for 15% off. Their price on the Lee Morgan CD set is $70 so using the coupon it would be around $60 plus tax which is the best I've sen around. I just ordered it myself.
I thought it was coming out on Friday? Their coupons are usually only for in-stock items.
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The Argo date I would like to see on CD is Thornel Schwartz's Soul Cookin' with Larry Young (under the pseudonym Lawrence Olds).
Lee Morgan - Complete Live at the Lighthouse
in Mosaic and other box sets...
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You mean the only OFFICIAL Live Lee as a leader. There is also the 'Lighthouse' live set which is really at the Both/And and the 'Live in Baltimore' live set which is really in Hyattsville, MD.
There is also a private recording from Virginia in late 1971 which I submitted to Blue Note for consideration. I never heard back, but I am sure the sound is not good enough. I had warned the guy with the tape but he was persistent. Cost me a couple of emails.
The audio from the Soul TV show also came out on Fresh Sound. There was an audience, so that counts. There may be a gig from the Smithsonian as well, confirmation is needed.