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How do we get the word out to them that Young Men From Memphis has an extra track? The mono take of Things Ain't What... is DIFFERENT than the stereo take. Ben Young discovered this...
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2 hours ago, John L said:
Well, the edition of the book that I have says that Coltrane was booked a whole week at the Penthouse from September 27-October 7, 1965. In that case, other recordings could exist.
I thought it was a whole week...
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3 hours ago, mjzee said:
The book is pretty good about researching newspaper ads of the time. I think if there were other dates, it would have been noted.
Oh, so they list not just dates that were known to be recorded, but any known performances, OK. Still possible that there are dates that were not known at publication time. I need to get this at some point, but it is the kind of book I always postpone getting because I know that the day after I get it, a new expanded edition will be announced LOL.
That is exactly what happened with a Love A supreme. I held off on getting the 2-CD set, and right after I got it, the 3-CD set was announced. Grrrr...
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Could there have been other dates at the Penthouse just not listed in the book? I doubt he did just one night.
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It seems Sheila is now saying it is probably Ronnie Ball on piano. Duck Baker got a review copy and really did not think it was Herbie Nichols.
Bertrand.
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I have not heard this, but could the tenor be Mobley?
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WPI’s Jazz History Database kicks off a hot listening session Thursday August 12 on Zoom
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3pm to 5:30 More historic Newport Jazz sounds. This time a visit to the festival’s third season in New York City, recreating an evening of solo piano music by six artists. We’ll let their identities be a surprise, but your hint is that they were between 29 and 91 at the time of the concert…
5:30pm to 7 Charles Iselin hosts a set of 78s that focuses on the King—Benny Carter—reflecting on his birthday anniversary this week.
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2 hours ago, JSngry said:
I'd suggest talking to Steve Swallow...he almost dunked the spill on the origins of The Real Book, and it "seems" like he might have at least been around the parties at the time?
Yes, he should have been given this to listen to since it could be him.
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44 minutes ago, Morganized said:
Nice... Thanks bertrand. Not familiar with her.
Originally from DC, now in California. I really like her voice. I am fussy about vocalists
On 6/14/2021 at 0:15 PM, sidewinder said:Apparently Charles T. has just undergone an emergency dental procedure. Hope he gets well soon. Rescheduled for Sept I think.
Is there a new date yet?
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So too late to change the 'personnel unknown'. Some sleuths may figure it out after the fact.
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Whether it goes where we are hoping it goes is mostly out of my hands. It took years of cajoling this guy to get as far as I got. Five years ago, we were at 'I think I still have some tapes in my basement, I will try to dig them up one day'.
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6 hours ago, Rooster_Ties said:
https://www.dustygroove.com/item/991567
And samples of every track can be heard here…
https://magicsoundrecords.com/music/1577621189/comes-love-lost-session-1960-sheila-jordan
Thanks for finding the clips!
A first listen does not rule out the possibility that it is Nichols. There is no smoking gun one way or the other.
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57 minutes ago, JSngry said:
Yeah, but then you added, "Be patient"
Oh, OK, I see your point. Isn't Chewy an attorney in his 40s by now? His youthful exuberance must surely have been tempered by now.
I feel the urge to call up Lou Donaldson suddenly. Good times.
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5 hours ago, clifford_thornton said:
Really interested in hearing this.
Sloan and Kenslow bought Tom's collection and store stock (Jazz Record Revival) earlier in the year, so I'd assume that's when it was unearthed. I can understand wanting to move quickly while Jordan is still alive, but it would be nice to know who else is on the date.
What other acetates might be in there?
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1 hour ago, JSngry said:
I see what you did there.
Not sure I follow.
Chewy has expressed the correct opinion that an archive is the ultimate destination for such material. This does not preclude the possibility of commercialization.
I was just adding the information that the Left Bank DC chapter also has a Hank Mobley recording.
I am pursuing all the angles I can to ensure proper preservation of this material. My goal is to avoid another Uptown Left Bank debacle.
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Working on it. They have a Hank tape also. Be patient.
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Lord does not even list that one.
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They have no been at Morgan State for years.
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It was sponsored by the DC chapter of Left Bank, and the concert took place in Hyattsville, MD.
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Another mystery. Philip Glass had a label with a similar name, but much later.
Did they ever release anything? Who owned it? Could it be a demo and Sheila just slapped a bogus name on it?
Who still alive played/recorded with Herbie Nichols. We have Sheila, Steve Swallow and Archie Shepp. Larry Ridley did a gig with him. Who else?
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6 hours ago, Joe said:
More Herbie Nichols? That is very enticing. But I somehow doubt his involvement.
There are a lot of gaps in the story, and not much time to fill them since it is coming out next month.
I am working under the assumption that Capri would prefer to identify the personnel before the release date.
I assume they have made some attempts at doing so, but what attempts we don't know. How long ago did they find this?
- Sheila does not remember the session or the personnel. Has she listened to it and still recognized no one?
- Some names were thrown in the mix, including Herbie Nichols and Steve Swallow. Has Swallow been given an audition copy? David Frishberg is not mentioned, but he preceded Herbie. Another guy I would give an audition copy to.
- Have any Herbie Nichols experts been asked to weigh in? From his reply on Facebook, it seems Mark Miller was not asked. If it were me, I would run it by Duck Baker and a few others.
- The media got a preview track. Can any journalist say for sure it is not Nichols?
I will ask around. There are some more avenues to pursue.
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I was able to get Eastern Moods as MP3s through my Public Library, so at least I have heard it. Would love to see it on CD, I have all the others on CD.
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Me: In the discussion about the new Roy Brooks Left Bank CD on the Organissimo Jazz Forum, the question came up about the food that was sold during Left Bank concerts. Did people usually bring their own food for the most part or did they buy it? And it was BYOB, correct?
BYOB but Left Bank supplied table set ups (Chips, pretzels etc.) most attendees brought food and there was some smoking chicken served for sale from the kitchen. And I mean finger licking good!
And Gladys the cake lady.
Fried chicken and set-ups. You could always get a pint across the street at the Wigwam
It was great to see folks arriving still dressed in their ‘Sunday best’ church garb, some of the gentlemen had small briefcases that contained flasks and shot glasses and jiggers. LBJS provided the ice!
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Watched my friend Danielle's livestream tonight. It will be up on YouTube for a while:
John Coltrane - Love Supreme: Live in Seattle
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Only 15 minutes extra? Hopefully I can find a friend to hook me up...