Jim R

Okay, I see what you mean. Yeah, when I enter data for a big band, I just list the players and omit what instrument they're playing (which I know anyway most of the time). I think there's room for about 20 names in the comments field, which is generally enough for me. I've never entered any data in the "lyrics" field in iTunes. Is that why it doesn't seem to be available in my viewing options on my iPod (Classic), or am I missing something?

Well, I just lost a long post... didn't follow my own advice and compose (and periodically save) it in a word processing doc. Oh well, it wasn't very well composed anyway. Shawn said two things in one of his early posts here, both of which I thought were insightful and important. First, the idea that the gap between rock and jazz musicians was narrower (I think musicianship across the stylistic board was higher then); and the idea that music was less (able to be) compartmentalized. I always refer to the early 70's as a marvelous melting pot era of music. The scope of it encompassed so many mixes of so many genres. People are still doing that, of course, but back then it was newer and more widely practiced. Anyway, the point is that it's hard for me to focus on the notion of two styles (jazz fusion and prog rock) as being distinct and understandable, especially with the backdrop of so many artists and bands who were doing those things while blending in other things (soul, western swing, blues, gospel, funk, country, r&b, etc etc). Not only was there an incredible amount of fusion of styles going on, there was just an incredible amount of MUSIC going on for those of us who basically wanted to hear everything people were talking about, in addition to what we heard passively on AM, FM, tv, records, etc. Looking back, I have a really hard time understanding how much music I managed to absorb between 1964 (when I got my first Beatles album) and 1974 (and beyond, of course, but that decade is a good measuring stick, because I started to get serious about blues and jazz around '74). Not necessarily all that relevant to the thread topic and discussion, but just for fun, some random (band) names that come to mind when I think of the variety of what I was listening to in the early 70's (with an emphasis on things that included elements of rock and/or jazz)... The Sons Of Champlin The Crusaders Santana Return To Forever Tower Of Power Brian Auger's Oblivion Express Larry Coryell (mentioned already) The Allman Brothers Traffic WAR Focus I know there had to be many, many more...

Jazz In 3/4 Time was the first thing that popped into my head when I saw the thread title, probably because it's one of his leader dates where he didn't share top billing with Brownie, and the fact that I love jazz waltzes ("I'll Take Romance" is a favorite on that album). Anyway, just the first thing that occurred to me... with Max, it was all good. One of the most tasteful and interesting drummers in jazz to my ears, and probably my all-time favorite drum soloist.

I'm not sure I follow that. For every album I add to iTunes, I indicate the date (year) it was recorded in the "year" field (again, you can select which fields you wish to display by choosing "view options" from the View menu). Generally, I enter that data on a per-album basis, not per-song, although in cases where different songs were recorded in different years, it can be done per-song. To do it on a per-album basis, simply select all the songs on a given album by holding down the shift key, then choose "get info" from the File menu (I use the command-I keyboard shortcut). Any data you enter in any field (artist, title, year, etc) will automatically be entered for every song on the album. Then if you want to change the data in any field for a single song from the album, just highlight that song and choose "get info" again. Hopefully that was easy to follow... it's become a simple routine for me by now. As for personnel, I always enter the data into the "comments" field. This works fine in iTunes, although for some reason this data doesn't seem to be accessible on the ipod.

My mistake. It's not viewable from Preferences. Go to "Get Info" from the drop-down File, and then a window will pop up. The tabs are: Summary ~ Info ~ Video ~ Sorting ~ Options ~ Lyrics ~ Artwork When you click on Sorting, you'll get that song's information (i.e. track name, album name, etc.). You can then enter the criteria you want (e.g. year) in one of the "Sort" boxes (though there's actually no "Sort Year" box; I use the "Sort Album" box). The default for iTunes is to sort alphabetically by artist first name, and then alphabetically by album name. This can be changed with the Sorting feature. I had to play around with it a bit, but now my iTunes library is sorted by artist, and within artist by year. I hope that helps some to clarify! Thanks, Late. I had never looked at that sorting tab. At any rate, it would be a tremendous amount of work for me to go back and enter new data in order to be able to do an alphabetical sort by artist's last name, and I'm trying to think of a reason why it would be helpful. I understand why people (including me) keep their CD collections alphabetized on the shelf, but in iTunes, I'm not sure what advantage there is in keeping them sorted. Like I said, when you have a lot of music (currently over 60 GB in my case), scrolling through a sorted list in order to locate something takes a long time. The search function finds whatever you want instantly. If I did want to see a chronologically sorted list of recordings by a particular artist, I would just type in the artist's name into "search", and then click on the "year" heading to sort by year.

That's what I do (or shall I say, "did", because I leave it that was 99.9% of the time), but I didn't explain it very well above. You can pick and choose the categories to be listed in the columns ("view options" in the view menu), so you can sort by any category. These "columns" appear in two of the three view modes ("list" mode and "cover flow" mode; but not in "grid" mode). Again, I rarely bother to change the way I have things displayed (I use cover flow mode, and leave things sorted by "date added", with the most recent addition at the top), and I almost never sort by artist or title or anything else, because the search function is so efficient. Unlike most search functions, you get an instant results list every time you add a letter to the search, and it only takes seconds to bring up a list for a particular artist (leader or not), song title, or album. For compilations, I use "various artists" in the "album artist" field. If I wanted to find a particular compilation, I would just type "various" as well as a key word (one of the artist's names, part of the title, or whatever) into the search box. With over 60 GB of material in there, it would actually be MUCH harder for me to find something via scrolling had I chosen to sort things alphabetically. I agree- it's useless, and I disabled it also. I still don't understand the "sorting tab in preferences" reference...

Have you tried use the "Sorting" tab in preferences? This should remedy the situation, I think. You can keep the artist name the same, but sort using a tag of your creation. For compilations, I just label the artist Various Artists; as a result, all my comps pop up in the V section. But you can sort by any criteria (doesn't have to be alphabetical), as long as you create the criteria. ? I have my own method*, and am not looking to change, but this puzzled me. I opened iTunes preferences, and see no tabs for sorting options. Am I overlooking something, or could it be (for example) that I'm on a Mac and you're on a PC? Just curious. *The only sorting method I use for iTunes is to keep "date added" as one of my regular tabs as chosen in the "view" menu, and always having the most recent additions at the top of the list as a result of having selected the "date added" tab as a default setting which I haven't changed. Rather than keeping things sorted by artist and having to scroll for what I'm looking for, I just use the search window when I want to find an artist, song, genre, or whatever. I think iTunes is a lot more flexible than some folks realize (probably myself included! ). Maybe there's a workable solution there somewhere for crisp...?

Fantasy issued it in 2001. note the subtle "Sky Street" subtitle on the mailbox.

I'm sure it would need new frets at the very least!!! There was a vol. 2? I think that was discussed in the earlier Raney thread. (If I recall correctly, brownie added some interesting historical details about players and locations). This thread is great too, but there's an awful lot of info in the other one which hopefully won't fade away.

You mentioned him twice. Now who's being offensive? ===== Another great clip with Bilko cast: Silvers special, 1960

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There was a time back in the 70's and early 80's where Steve Martin was genuinely funny and creative (IMO). The one that plays Inspector Clouseau sure ain't. Bilko and Clouseau tributes aside (I haven't seen the Pink Panther film), I'll disagree that he ceased being funny in the early 80's (I mean, Planes, Trains and Automobiles was '87, and that's a classic in my book). He still kills on Letterman, he had maybe the funniest moment at this year's oscars show when paired with Tina Fey, and his closing monologue when he received the Mark Twain Prize a few years back was brilliant.

Yeah, the real deal. I thought the Steve Martin thing was okay, but... Note to self: bookmark that damn site this time!! (watch me forget again )

Me too, and... uh... it looked to me like that was all in fun, an acting trial, a video-editing practice exercise. Didn't everybody watch the whole thing and see the bloopers at the end? I don't know if she wants guys to open doors or not. She may not know either, from the vibe I got from her. Anyway, she definitely reminds me of my daughter, who is now 21. She and my son like to make silly videos too, but this one had much better editing than the ones they've done. Well done!

Great beer (Got to keep that pilsner glass in the pic too ) which I had on a world beer tour. I'm no expert connoisseur (and there are plenty of beers I haven't tried), but this is possibly the best I've ever tasted in 30+ years of drinking beer.

I've been thinking the same thing, and it's not even my test...

Not actually drinking it right at the moment, but I've been falling in love with this stuff lately... Another pic I found of the Widmer (I envy this guy a lot):

It looks like this guy bought a collection of Goodwill's Perennial Favorites, but it also appears that this is music that is perhaps largely unfamiliar to him, at leasr not deeply familiar. Nothing at all "heavy", just kinda funny to think about somebody ending up with all this..."stuff" by (apparently) accident and then deciding to actually listen to it all. It starts here (from the bottom up) http://www.personalconservatory.com/2008/08/page/2 Or it you want to work your wa back, here: http://www.personalconservatory.com/ Wacky... but interesting in the sheer randomness of the "collection". Album #39 (Woody Herman live at Monterey on Atlantic) reminds me of the time I found that LP in some similar (cheapo) circumstances, the LP being probably 25 years old at that point, and the thing was absolutely DEAD mint. Puzzlingly (?) mint. I didn't even want to handle it. I mean, just letting Nigel Tufnel look at this record would have caused some noticeable wear. Why am I bringing this up, you might ask? I have no real idea.

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