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Bent Axen Horn, Joe Lee Morgan

I was just listening to this again, and I have no idea where that last comment came from. Just to set the record straight. The phrasing still intrigues me in an odd way, but it's definitely not "immature". Now if I could only come up with a name or two...

Jay Leno K. Abe L. Ron Hubbard

Not with a judiciously placed comma, you didn't: http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResu...373094175&nsa=1 Damn! Missed it by that much...

Colonel Walther Pluskat was a german artillery officer who was at Normandy, among the first to see the allied invasion approaching. He was vividly portrayed in the film "The Longest Day" (which is aired on U.S. television regularly)... his main scenes taking place in a bunker. Oh, and I confess- I made up "Norman Dee", but hey- everybody around here cheats.

Elaine Joyce William Boyce Campbell, Royce

Pluskat!! Norman Dee Bunker, Larry

Uh... no. "Hard Bossa"? "Bossa Nova"? Brazilian music? No, I'd say no. No moreso than Miles, Paul Desmond, Ernie Watts? I dunno. Maybe start with David Sanborn and Grover Washington. (but I think it's more complicated than that). for...? I listened to a few samples, and I'm pretty impressed. Doesn't sound like the slick/smooth Menescal productions I referred to. She's got a nice voice, although I think I'd be more drawn in by the songs and the soloists (lots of nice voices out there, and it takes somebody with a really outstanding sound and style to grab me).

Santa Senta Berger Ray Kroc

As much as I admire a lol of Menescal's earlier exploits as a composer and musicain, I kind of cringe when I see his name listed as producer. At some point, smooth jazz became his accompaniment style of choice for a lot of fine artists down there (and no doubt other producers have shown the same tendency), and it's been that way for too long, imo. Sound like maybe I'm wrong in this particular case (not sure what you mean by "clubby"), and maybe things are changing, but I've almost been too afraid to find out...

Beethoven Shakespeare Dickens

Yeah... but I ain't givin' up yet (although I probably should )

Oh, NO... Oh, okay...

We won't, but our descendants (who will be keeping this thread going) will. As Dan suggested, I'd say all of the above, and more (probably not Pete Cosey )

Nah, but I have a very strong suspicion that certain groups have been repeated, and more than once. Some of that is the result of new players joining in, but I've probably repeated myself a few times too... sometimes I just can't help it... Marge Schott Thomas Paine Norman Fell Oops- did it again. It will be a job for some graduate student of the future...indexing and annotating the NTP thread. If it happens, somebody PM me.

Disc 2: 1. Cool- I'm not sure I have (or have heard?) this. The heads is "Blues Up and Down" with a few slight twists and turns (nice touch). The guitar solo reminds me a bit of Howard Alden. I'd guess this was on Concord. Unfortunately, I think the interesting take on the head was my favorite aspect of this. Well played, though. 2. I'm not that big on funky stuff, but this rhythm section really has it together, and this particular rhythm is less (out)dated for me than some of the boogaloo type of stuff that we hear so often. In other words, I don't love it, but I like it. Excellent musicianship throughout, imo. Especially that drummer. I wonder if he ever studied with David Garabaldi (sincere question). Gotta admire that bass work, too. 3. Yeah, a good shuffle gets me just about every time. Another good arrangement, tightly played. I think we may be getting tenor overkill here, but it's all good (I probably put too much guitar on my test ). To be honest, I could do without this trumpet solo, but maybe I'd like this player better on another tune. 4. Nice line, obviously based on All The Things You Are. Sounds like a relatively recent recording by a bunch of crazed bopheads. Excellent playing, the only minor problem for me being the fact that these changes have been used so many times. 5. I recognize this tune (and should know it, but I can't name it). Wayne Shorter tune? Is it Footprints? God, I'm an idiot. I never really liked this tune... never really too fond of Shorter's compositions in general (I know I'll be in the minority on this). I like the changes on this, though, and I'm enjoying this rendition (anything but another tenor playing the blues! ). Nice quote there from the soprano (Delilah?). Wow, interesting (in a good way) drum work behind the piano solo. 6. Damn... I was really digging that piano intro, trying to figure out what tune it was. I could have listened to another 5 minutes of that (whatever it was)!! Oh well, "moanin" is great, too. Dan, you're really going obscure on us (me, at least) here, or I'm just a dolt today. Between this and disc 1, I think I've only recognized (fully) one track out of 24 thus far. This is ringing no bells whatsoever. I'd only give this about 2 1/2 stars, btw- largely for the piano intro. The ad-lib ending was pretty good, too. 7. Ah, Dan's favorite blues guitarist... but who is he playing with here? Not sure, but to me it isn't an ideal fit somehow (I know I'm not caring for the drummer, for one thing). In addition to what I hear as a slight problem with musical chemistry, it sounds like B is in a different studio or something. The other guitarist is copping some Kenny Burrell licks. Hmm... I'll have to relisten to this one. 8. I'm only 30 seconds into it, and I'll give it at least 3 stars already. Beautiful. I'm a sucker for this kind of small group ballad playing. Damn again- that was WAY too ****ing SHORT!!! ARG!! Keep playing, for cryin' out loud!! I was only just beginning to try to figure out what (and who) the hell that was. I'm listening to that one again, too. 9. BAM!- there goes my ballad mood! That's okay, though- this is cookin nicely. These guys are professional musicians, I'm almost certain of it. Pretty hard not to like this. If it ain't the Basie band, then it's somebody doing an awfully nice job of paying homage. Even though I'm more of a small group fan, this gets 4 stars. 10. Another solid track, although this made less of an impression on me (kind of basic right out of the gate). The guitar player's tone is Herb Ellis-like (after he switched to humbucking pickups). Good playing all around, but I'd have to stop at 2 stars. 11. I recognize this tune (if not from Basie's book, it's at least from the Kansas City school, right?)... but I can't think of the title. This performance (especially the rhythm section) sounds a bit stiff to me. Nice arrangement, but the execution (and engineering) could have been better, imo. 12. Hmm... I wonder if I'll recognize this singer's name when I find out who it is? I suspect I will, but the voice rings absolutely no bells. Zero. I know there may be quite a few singers I still haven't heard, but I keep expecting that number to decrease as I get older. Anyway, sorry to say I wasn't greatly impressed... and this tune was never a favorite, either. Oh well. 13. A more straight (than track 1) arrangement of "Blues Up And Down". Very spirited, and a bit more polished than track 1 in terms of the solos, imo. In fact, even after a whole two discs of Dan Gould BFT material, I'm still enjoying listening to a tenor battle on the blues! Seriously, nice track. 3 1/2 stars. Thanks as always, Dan.

Disc 1: 1. I know the tune, but I've never heard this version. Sounds like a late-60's or perhaps early 70's recording. I never really was very fond of this type of rhythm/groove. No real clue as to who this is. 2. Sounds like we're staying in that same time frame. This has a little bit more interest for me, a bit more musical flair and interest in terms of the arrangement. Still don't dig the beat, though. I won't try to guess who this is either. 3. Whoa- now we've suddenly gone back in time a bit (at least style-wise). Are those "bones" I'm hearing? Steel guitar... hmm... interesting. Kind of catchy, but not really my cup o' tea. 4. Sounds like a track off the same record. Man, I'm drawing a blank right now as to who this could be. I like this track a little better than the previous one... I don't think I own any western swing to speak of, but I do enjoy it from time to time, and it occurs to me that this may not be all that old in terms of a recording date. 5. I've been playing this song for the last couple of years, after hearing an Eddie Higgins recording of it (on Venus, I think). This is a slightly slower tempo than it's typically played, I'd say (only slightly perhaps, the more I think about it), but it's a nice tune at any tempo. The voices on this are an interesting touch, although they're only going to add to my confusion as to who this is (thanks for continuing to stump the shit out of me, Dan). Nice- my favorite track so far... 6. Is that "Bluesology"? Anyway, I haven't heard this tune for awhile... gotta listen more often, I guess. I'm pathetic when it comes to identifying vibes players (piano players in general too, unfortunately). I think only sitting down and examining various players one after another (repeatedly) will ever get me over the hump. But I can enjoy the music even if I have to admit that I have stone ears, right? This is cool... and I'm not sure I own it (but that's a wild guess). Nice track! 7. Sounds like a modern-era New Orleans sound. Nice rhythm section- they really lay down a solid base for the horns. Pretty wild solos. Enjoyable, but I've got little experience with this style, so... 8. Never heard this before... very lively stuff. Somewhat similar to the previous track. Again, this is fairly enjoyable to me, but not really a style I would choose to listen to very often. 9. Another very down home sounding track, which doesn't ring any specific bells. I wonder if this could be a certain piano player Dan has a penchant for? That would be my guess. Very nice, btw. 10. This is well-played, but it's lacking something for me. I'm not crazy about this standard to begin with... the changes don't really get me, but this interpretation strikes me as a little bit on the trite side (probably just my mood at the moment, but there you go). I'd also guess (without a whole lot of a foundation for it) that this is a relatively young tenor player (meaning... still alive ). I'm just not hearing a lot of maturity in the phrasing on this, I guess. 11. A lot of recognizable tunes on this disc, and this is no exception, but this one I couldn't name (without a lot of searching and listening). I'd have to say again that although this is well played, it's not something I would seek. But then I'm more of a small group guy. 12. Ahh, this is a welcome change of pace. Great tune. Once again, I'm not certain... "passion flower"?... it's either by Duke or Billy S. (or both), and I like this performance. It breathes... I like the use of space in the sax solo. Nice touch and coloration by the pianist. Can't identify the players as of right now. 13. Nice arrangement of Angel Eyes. Love the tension in the accompaniment. Great, sweet soulful tone from the alto. Still, I'm not sure who this is. Anyway, this is one of the best versions of this tune I can recall hearing (not really a favorite tune of mine, but this is hitting me). For me, this player displays the kind of "maturity" in phrasing that I was referring to above. I'm not necessarily saying that this is a great, veteran player, either- but I get that impression moreso on this than (for example) track 10. 14. Fly Me To The Moon, obviously taken slower than usual (nice touch), and obviously from an LP. I like the tenor work (nothing earthshattering, but solid), and I like the pianist's comping style. 15. Blue and Sentimental, of course, great sound on this (both the tenor's tone and the audio quality). Call me crazy, but I suspect that this tenor player had gray hair when he recorded this. (don't know why I'm stuck on this "maturity" thing... oh well). Hmm... this has some of the lushness of a Ben, but some of the bite of a Hawk. Oh well, I.... (I was typing as I was listening, and now I see that the tenor is identified !?!). Thanks for the gimme, Dan. At least now I'm not feeling quite as clueless. 16. At times, it sounds like the Duke playing the Count, but I don't think it's Duke. Nice piano playing, though- I hear little hints of Oscar and Errol too... 17. Almost LIke Being In Love. Great sound- the phrasing reminds me of Getz, but not the tone, of course. This is very cool. I feel like an idiot right now, because I can't summon a clue... Wow, that was WAY too short. I want that to go on for another 7 minutes, at least. There was something a bit odd about the recording quality of that, to my ears. In particular, the the way the tenor sounds... the touch of echo there (?). I like it, but it's not really helping me to identify this right now. 18. !!! Whew! Thanks for that, Dan. Right up my alley, and I actually haven't played this album for some time... too long. This pianist has got to be one of the most underrated of all time, and that guitar player ain't half bad either. I think more people could have put a brazilian twist on this composer's material (really works for me). On to disc 2...

I just had to share this, and this seemed like the best place (only a guitar player would understand this, I think). Look at the way this guy shows off (and shows off, and shows off) his (apparently) new axe. I'm not saying he's weird or anything... In fact, I bought a '64 Gibson Barney Kessel in 1981, and for days and weeks I propped up the guitar where I could see it every time I went to a different room (including the bathroom). When I went on vacation soon after, I took photos of the guitar with me on the trip, and looked at them every night before I went to bed (probably ended up sleeping with them at least once ). Anyway, this video cracks me up...

Brian Bliss Brian Maisonneuve Brian McBride

The Man From U.N.C.L.E. The Man From Glad The Tidy Bowl Man

John Mackey Mike Ditka Charlie Sanders

I'm going to guess that the uploaders didn't include any Chris A. intros, which is really too bad because I wanted to see Chris with some big old early 70s sideburns. Hint, hint. Thanks for posting those, Chris. I finally found a Tommy Flanagan video (and a DAMN good one, it is, with George Mraz and Lewis Nash). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2GnTN2trTA Apologies if it's already been posted- this thread is tough to get a grasp on. Man, that Coltrane/Kelly/Chambers/Cobb video is a treasure.

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