mikeweil

I wish Universal would reissue that Blue Thumb double LP by Hugh Masekela with Dudu Pukwana, Larry Willis, Eddie Gomez and Makaya Ntshoko - this probably is may most often played vinyl!

Bruyninckx gives February 1956 as recording date, but hasn't any more issues than the two mentioned.

Move it to the Miscellaneous Music forum, and I will post an answer ....

I do that every day!

Asking him is free of charge, I'm certain ...

Bought the SACD of The Wes Montgomery Trio - the first Riverside album. Although I'm only listening to the CD layer, this sounds considerably better than the first CD or the Riverside box set. You can hear the attack of the organ bass pedal notes! 2nd - Paradigm Shift: Shifting Times (Nagel Heyer) - an organ trio plus guests (Wycliffe Gordon, Marcus Printup, Joe Locke) - very nice, a little cleaner but a little less fun than Organissimo! The mailman brought the Baby Dodds CD from American Music (The one where he explains his drumming style). Another Baby Dodds should arrive tomorrow.

Yeah, that's what interests me, too - on a late 1950's to early 1960's recording I can hear some of the room ambience - Jimmy Cobb or PhillyJoe Jones in the big Columbia studio, Shelly Manne in the Contemporary back room - which I don't hear anymore. What I hear is some artificial room. Are they using different mikes or isolating better?

Yes, the Charles/Jackson comes in a double box. The two CDs I mentioned have it all, except for the R&B stuff which is on that 3 CD box "The Birth of Soul" - although that material would have easily fitted on to just two CDs! Now will they correct it when doing a reissue of "The Genius after hours"? I doubt this! Look for a used copy of the older CD, or ..... The pre-Atlantic stuff (downbeat & Swingtime) was collected in a fine 2 CD box on Fresh Sounds' sublabel Ebony, "The Birth of a Legend" - avoid any other reissue - this is the only one that has them complete, unedited and without overdubs.

I have Tarab - very good, but I like Roots & Sprouts better - just my taste. I don't like the way the frame drum sounds on Tarab - probably miked closely. They sound best when the microphone is placed at about ten feet distance, but then you have to give up on isolation - most engineers will not go for this.

The Atlantic "Jazz" recordings of Ray Charles were a mess on the LPs - not as big a mess as the reissues of some stuff from the 78 era, but still ... That's why I will gladly stick to my older CDs of the Ray Charles / Milt Jackson collaborations and The Great Ray Charles, as they completed sessions. April 30, 1956 Ray Charles (piano) Oscar Pettiford (bass) Joe Harris (drums) A-1965 Dawn Ray - Atlantic 1369 A-1966 The man I love - Atlantic 1369 A-1967 Music! Music! Music! - Atlantic 1369 A-1968 Black Coffee - Atlantic 1259 all titles on Atlantic 7 81731-2 November 20, 1956 Ray Charles (piano) Roosevelt Sheffield (bass) William Peeples (drums) Joseph Bridgewater & John Hunt (trumpet) David Fathead Newman (alto & tenor sax) Emmett Dennis (baritone sax) A-2223 The Ray - Atlantic 1259 A-2224 I surrender dear - Atlantic 1259 A-2225 Hornful soul - Atlantic 1369 A-2226 Ain't misbehavin' - Atlantic 1369 A-2227A Joy Ride - Atlantic 1259 A-2228A Sweet sixteen bars (trio only) - Atlantic 1259 all titles on Atlantic 7 81731-2 November 26, 1956 same personnel A-2227 Doodlin' - Atlantic 1259 A-2228 There's no you - Atlantic 1259 A-2229 Undecided - Atlantic 1259 A-2230 My melancholy baby - Atlantic 1259 All titles on Atlantic 7 81731-2 September 12, 1957 Ray Charles (piano, electric piano, alto sax) Milt Jackson (vibes, piano, guitar) Billy Mitchell (tenor sax) Skeeter Best (guitar) Oscar Pettiford (bass) Connie Kay (drums) A-2726 How long blues - Atlantic 1279 A-2727 Cosmic Ray - Atlantic 1279 A-2728 Charlesville (trio only) - Atlantic 1369 A-2729 The Genius After Hours (trio only) - Atlantic 1369 A-2730 Bags of Blues - Atlantic 1360 A-2731 If I should lose you - unissued, lost A-2732 'Deed I do - Atlantic 1279 (stereo issue only) A-2733 Blue Funk - Atlantic 1279 A-2734 Soul Brothers - Atlantic 1279 A-2735 Bags' Guitar Blues - Atlantic 1279 (mono issue only) All issued titles on Atlantic 7 81951-2 April 10, 1958 Ray Charles (piano, electric piano, alto sax) Milt Jackson (vibes, piano) Kenny Burrell (guitar) Percy Heath (bass) Arthur Taylor (drums) A-3041 I'm just a lucky so and so - unissued, lost A-3042 Soul Meeting - Atlantic 1360 A-3043 Hallelujha I love her so - Atlantic 1360 A-3044 Blue Genius - Atlantic 1360 A-3045 X-Ray Blues - Atlantic 1360 A-3046 Love on my mind - Atlantic 1360 All issued titles on Atlantic 7 81951-2 Atlantic 1259 The Great Ray Charles Atlantic 1279 Soul Brothers Atlantic 1360 Soul Meeting Atlantic 1369 The Genius After Hours It seems they messed this up while preparing the new master. Atlantic 1369 basically was a compilation of session leftovers after Charles had signed with ABC. Too bad they didn't include the two unissued tracks, which were obviously destroyed by the fire in the Atlantic tape vaults - they would not have hesitated to include them in the CD reissues in case they still exited: Atlantic 7 81731-2 includes the complete first three sessions Atlantic 7 81951-2 includes all the issued Charles/Jackson titles One more case where straight reissues of LP issues are nonsense.

Can this be read as a conflicting attitude towards one's musical traditions? That would explain to me why I hear so much diversity in his playing that sounds eclectic to me rather than a real personal fusion of all these influences - but then this would reflect the way he sees culture in Israel - or his own? Very complex subject.

Ironically, I like Abou-Khalil's music best when it is the purest Arabian in style: is my favourite - his take on a modern Arabian music rooted in the tradition. I think drum sets in particular do not mesh well with oriental plucked string instruments, and both Mark Nauseef and Jarrod Cagwin are pretty busy players. I play in a band that attempts to fuse traditional Zaza music with Jazz etc. and we always try to keep the balance slightly on the traditional side. Very difficult process. But of course Abou-Khalil does a great job - too bad I always was on the road when he performed here. He will be doing a soloist's tour in spring, I will try to catch him in Frankfurt.

There is a 2-disc set on Savoy - but that is hard to get in Europe and if so, it is expensive. The recent Savoy releases are best ordered online from the US. I only have two thirds of these on LP - they are 90% vocal ballads, and not as well recorded as the Spotlite, so do not put them on a high position on your priority list.

........... It could be had pretty cheap here at Zweitausendeins for a while. It's probably more thrilling to have all the Prez tracks on one disc than scattered over three! What is missing?

Remember that BFT where we had Joe Williams with a bad cold?

Another one I got from another friend: Very interesting interview on his enja page - like Shaheen, he bridges the cultural and political gaps neither politics nor extremists really want to bridge - a great attitude. I have to admit I can't quite hear his personal identity in the mixture - his sax is heavily Garbaresque, his clarinet is pretty much Klezmer plus jazz, there is some Bulgarian, some jazz, some Ottoman sounds ... like Ephraim Kishon said: "Is there a specific type of Jewish humor, and if so, why not?" Has anyone read his book, "A Guide to the Perplexed"? His own website is at www.gilad.co.uk.

Has anybody heard Dhafer Youssef? This was sent to me by a friend earlier this year - some info is on the enja website. I find his mixture of Arabian music and ambience music not always attractive - I dislike drum machines. But the second half of the disc is very nice. king ubu told me he saw him live with just bass and drums and it was fantastic!

Europe? Russia East of the Ural? Like all categories, these will be in dispute forever. Peter Manuel (Popular Musics of the Non-Western World, Oxford University Press 1988) suggests: Latin America and the Carribean Africa Europe (how could I forget! ) The Arab Middle East The Non-Arab Middle East South Asia Southeast Asia China The Pacific I think we should add North Asia, which would include the parts of Russia couw mentions and Mongolia - my wife loves Tuvan music, we will be going to see Hun Huur Tu in May.

Brownie, there doesn't seem to be a single important live music event in Paris since the late 1950's that you haven't seen! I really envy you ..... I saw a short excerpt from this performance in a very nice documentary on Om Kalsoum on arte TV - mesmerizing.

I have ordered from them 2 or 3 times - extremely fast service, two days from Barcelona to the Frankfurt area.

Milan, what are the tracks we didn't get so far?

BTW that's the studio version cut for Excelsior reissued on Savoy, not on the Spotlite. You have the box with the Prez track? - all Prez on that set is marvellous! Did you compare the Hartman? Jim R has his doubts, and to me this voice does not sound enough like Hartman, but I don't have that suspected album.

This is the 2nd album. Currently available for $ 10.97 as a Collectables reissue.

One thing I appreciate very much about Shaheen's recordings is that he integrates musicians from many oriental countries: Armenian, Jewish, Turkish, Egyptian, Syrian and Palestine musicians playing side by side.

White Lightning, may I suggest you use the edit function of the topic title you have as the first poster, and rename this topic "Near & Middle Eastern World Music Thread"? It seems this thread centers on that region. The term "World Music" is too broad - and a typical labelling invented by marketing strategists. I would suggest these regions: Near & Middle East incl. North Africa (from Morocco to Persia & Afghanistan) Indian subcontinent China, Japan & South East Asia Australia & Ocenania Africa South of the Sahara Middle America & Carribean South America Shaheen is great - I have all of his records. Is his career in the US in any way affected by the 9/11 incident? He runs a very nice website, but I don't see any recent concert dates.