Norm

If you're like me, the day of the week (or at least weekday vs. weekend) as well as time of day has a big impact on the type of jazz CD I'm inclined to reach for. So on those late nights when others in your household have retired but you're still working on a project, writing or doing something else, what do you reach for? A few of my favorites are for this time are: -- Miles Davis The Complete In a Silent Way Sessions -- Grant Green Idle Moments -- Thelonious Monk Thelonious Himself So when its Round About Midnight, what sounds particularly good to you?

I just checked out the Concord site for the first time and, given how small my collection is, it looks like it could be dangerous for my wallet. For the time being, I just want to reach the $50 minimum for free shipping. Here's a list of the items in my shopping cart (that I want to pick up in addition to Red Garland Trio At the Prelude). Not having heard any of these, I'd like to narrow it down to the most "essential" 4 or 5 for now to reach the $50 minimum. I realize its a subjective question, but are there any in here that you feel you would especially regret not having in your collection. Red Garland Trio A Garland Of Red OJCCD-126-2 Cannonball Adderley Quintet Plus OJCCD-306-2 Blue Mitchell Blue's Moods OJCCD-138-2 Red Garland Rediscovered Masters, Vol. 2 OJCCD-769-2 Red Garland The P.C. Blues OJCCD-898-2 John Coltrane With The Red Garland Trio Traneing In [Rudy Van Gelder Remaster] John Coltrane Soultrane [Rudy Van Gelder Remaster] Nat Adderley Work Song [Keepnews Collection] RCD-30506 Kenny Burrell Soul Call OJCCD-846-2 Kenny Burrell 'Round Midnight OJCCD-990-2

Just read through this old thread. Strong opinions on both sides but I learned a lot (though it seems one of Burrell's detractors and his/her various aliases may no longer be around???) No matter, what I really wanted to bring up is one album that I did not see mentioned, or at least discussed, through the 7 pages and that is Kenny Burrell and John Coltrane (Presige 1958, reissued 2005 RvG remaster). Its not only one of my favorite Burrell's, but up there over all. To me, its all about the feel and the spaces he left there. Nothing is remotely forced and to me there isn't one iota of note that is there that shouldn't be. Those spaces in Burrell's playing on this one is what its all about, bringing out his grooves into deep relief.

Bob Parlocha's late night (and early morning) show on KKJZ (KJAZZ 88.1) broadcast out of Long Beach, CA. In just having read through some related threads, I see that KJAZZ has or at least had a bad reputation for its "defanged" programming. Maybe so, but I've picked up quite a bit from Parlocha near the witching hour. And at least he's honest, referring to his selections collectively as "mainstream jazz".

....And on a completely unrelated note I have to say that while I love Abbey Road and love jazz, I was just flipping through some radio stations and stumbled across a very unfortunate "smooth jazz" version of "Something." It just sounded so WRONG. Now back to our regularly scheduled programming...

Up until last week, Abbey Road had been my unequivocal favorite. It still may be, but The White Album vaulted up separate notches with digital remasterings. Its now up there with Abbey Road, in my book, even if its far less of a cohesive album.

Right now I'm listening to Live at Birdland and loving it. My Coltrane collection is rather small considering his output. Aside from the aforementioned, I have Giant Steps, Bluetrain, A Love Supreme, Live at the Village Vanguard - The Mastertakes, Kenny Burrell and Coltrane, Coltrane and Monk at Carnegie Hall, John Coltrane's My Favorite Things: Live at Newport. Noticeably missing, among others, is My Favorite Things (studio album), Crescent, Soultrane, Traneing In, etc. So given that I'm not inclined to venture into his outer space (later) period just quite yet, what is the pecking order of things to get (e.g. what is most important) in your humble or not so humble opinions. Hope y'all don't mind all of these questions.

I'm with you....at least up until now The Beatles basically "began" for me with Rubber Soul. Well, I should admit that my listening experience with regard to the first five albums is limited to whats on the Anthology documentary and of course what has been played on the radio. Now, I did order the mono box set (won't arrive for a few weeks) but up until now I've never been inspired to purchase the earlier stuff. That said, I have an open mind and am quite looking forward to getting my hands on all of the early albums. In the back of my mind, I've often wondered what brought about the great transition which for me occurred in 1965. In the past, I've often thought of it as rather a sudden break / transformation but that begs the question of what propelled it. Not to glorify the influence of drugs, but it seems that Dylan getting them high in a New York hotel in August 1964 may have played some role. Anyway, I'm looking forward to digging further into some of the books /bios mentioned above to grapple with this. Then, on the other hand, maybe the transition was more gradual than I originally conceived -- maybe it can be seen in varying degrees on Beatles for Sale and Help!, as well.

agree, for some reason the OJC's from the early 90's sound fine. Unlike most cd's from that time I don't have a problem with the OJC's. Enjoying the K2 of All Morning Long. Thanks to the tip in this thread. Excellent. Based on the suggestions in this thread, I've first placed orders for Soul Junction (Presige, 2007) and Red Garland Revisited! (Ojc, 1998). This will, in effect, double my Red Garland collection. But I see references to numerous others in this thread, should I want to continue to expand my Red Garland collection exponentially in the future. One of the things that drew me to Revisited! was the mention above of Burrell's participation on a few of the tracks. I absolutely love Burrell's album with John Coltrane (1959). As an aside, I'm a graduate student at UCLA, where Burrell still heads the jazz program. During my first year in school (several years ago), I had a work-study position in the Department of Music and had limited, but enough, contact with Mr. Burrell to form the opinion that he is such a tremendously modest, classy guy. Very understated, polite and soft spoken. I just thought it was great that here is this guy who is/was one of the finest guitar players in the genre, nearing 75 years old (at the time), still active in jazz education and such a nice guy. In other words, he's as smooth in person as his guitar playing.

Wow, I'm happy to have located this thread. I've been looking into beefing up my Red Garland collection as well (so far only Groovy and Red Garland's Piano) but there are some great suggestions. Just one question. I noticed that quite a few of the suggestions were issued by a OJC in 1991. I'm wondering if the sound quality of these pressings is fairly decent? Most are very affordable, so I wanted to know if those who have dabbled in them find them listenable.

No question, Paul and Ringo - as musicians - are the greatest beneficiaries of these remasters. The bass and drums sound superb... I agree 100%. Thinking back, the drums and bass didn't even register with me on the old recordings. How about that cowbell in "Drive My Car" or "Taxman." Never even noticed it the first time around. Ringo's drumming, I've discovered, is fantastic...I guess this makes me a little puzzled over the story I've heard that Paul would come into the studio during the recording of the White Album and lay his own drum tracks for some of the cuts, discarding the work that Ringo had done. I still can't wrap my head around that...either my assessment of Ringo's skill is not accurate, Paul was a dyed-in-the-wool perfectionist with a big ego, or these stories regarding Paul are unfounded.

Yes, I picked up The Complete Blackhawk set (4 discs) a few months ago and have put them in from time to time and marvelled at certain passages of piano-playing (especially on the longer tracks where he's given space to really get into it), but I never put two and two together or looked at the liner notes, and thus was unaware that it was Kelly. Now it makes perfect sense.

The AMG page is a great resource. I didn't know about that. Thanks. Incidentally, I just received Roll Call in the mail yesterday. Now I can't wait to listen to it. (I already have Soul Station and Workout...no wonder I love those two so much). I'll have to check out Star Bright. I had never heard of it. Thanks.

I'm relatively new to the world of jazz and very new to this forum, but after asking about Sonny Rollins it has become crystal clear that there is a vast resevoir of knowledge here so I'd like to tap it one more time. Lots of good such suggestions and a great discussion there. Wynton Kelly's work with Miles Davis in the late 50s was the first to reel me in. Since then, I've picked up Wes Montgomery Smokin' at the Half Note and Wes Montgomery Full House, choosing them primarily because of Wynton's presence more than Wes.' I absolutely love each of these recordings. I can't get enough of them. It appears that the former was recorded in 1965 and the latter in 1962. If any folks are familiar with these, I'm wondering if there are any other really good albums that feature Wynton's playing from this era (early to mid 1960s), even if they not listed under his name (just as these two are not). Norm

Anthology (which should be called Mythology but makes a nice coffee table book) Just curious about your take on the Anthology book. I purchased it some 8 years ago, however, it has pretty much sat on the coffee table since then; I've never spent any time reading it, though I have perused the images from time to time. I was under the impression that just like the similarly named documentary the Anthology text was supposed to be the Beatles "in their own words" so I guess I'm wondering in what sort way embellishment / mythologizing takes place. I hadn't heard this before so I'm quite curious. Oh, and thanks for your other reading recommendations.

I apologize if this had been discussed in this thread previously or if it should be self-evident, but I have a question about the pricing structures of the two new sets. I'm wondering why the mono box set, containing less material (13 discs vs. 17 including DVD) than the stereo box set is more expensive. Amazon's price for the stereo set is $180 whereas it is $230 for the mono box. Is this due primarily to the fact that the mono box set is a "limited release" and thus will be of greater value over time or is due moreso to the fact that more labor and technology has to be deployed for remastering mono albums. I have bought several of the stereo remasters (individually) and ordered the mono set from DVD Pacific, though I've been informed by their staff that it was listed available ("low stock") in error when I ordered it on Friday (according to them, they haven't had any stock since 9/9/09) so its unclear when it will become available.

Thanks for all of the recommendations. I now have a good list to work from...maybe I'll first see if my local library has any of these and then work from there.

I've only picked up two Sonny Rollins CDs (Newks Time and Volume II). While this may seem like a big question, if you could pick one or two other titles by Rollins what would it/they be? Norm (P.S. I don't have a turntable so it would have to be something available on CD)

This has been a great thread to read through. I thought I may as well list my system even though I'm new here, due to the fact that it was a resurgent interest in jazz that drove me to upgrade my system (previous system consisted of all Sony components purchased in 1993). This began in February 2008 and I just got it to where I want it this past June. The only possible changes in the future that I can foresee would be the addition of a turntable but of course that has other implications (i.e. buying vinyl). Anyway here goes. With the exception of the CD player, everything was purchased used (on Audiogon or Ebay): Parasound Halo A23 Amplifier Parasound Halo P3 Preamplifier Parasound Halo T3 Tuner Bada HD-22SE Tubed CD Player Polk Audio Lsi9 speakers Magnum Dynalab Signal Sleuth Magnum Dynalab S-2 Antenna MIT Shotgun S-3 Bi-wire Interface Speaker cables MIT Shotgun S-3 Interconnects (3 pair) IegO L70530 Power cords The first upgrade was my purchase of the Polk Lsi9 speakers. In looking through the thread, I didn't see too many other people using Polks. Anybody heard them before?

That was on the outmost track (the track that circles the label) on the original British release of Pepper's. If you played it backwards with your finger on the label, they're singing what sounds like "We're gonna fuck you like Supermen." (Really, I'm not making this up...I've heard it.) In the Bio I just finished that was obviously unintentional but when it was brought up to them Paul's reaction in trying to keep their image was along the lines of I guess you can hear all kinds of stuff if you play anything backwards where as of course John loved it. It's been a fun week, I can't get over how great Abbey Road sounds on these. May I ask which biography you read? Last week I checked out Bob Spitz's The Beatles: A Biography, Peter Brown's The Love You Make from the library but have not begun either; I also placed reserves for A Day in the Life: The Music and Artistry of the Beatles by Mark Hertsgaard and Here, There, and Everywhere: My Life Recording with the Beatles by Geoff Emerick (the latter two are currently checked out by other library patrons). I'm not going to have time to make it through all of these but if you or anyone else can recommend one or two, that would be great.

Thanks Hans!! I'll have to place an order- latert though- no time now. You're welcome. I hope it'll still be there by that time Yes, thanks Hans. After your prompt, I cancelled my order with Amazon (scheduled to ship 3-6 weeks from now) and placed an order for the set with CD Pacific which still shows "low stock". I've never dealt with them before but I assume that they are a trustworthy seller. Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

It's still available at Amazon for $230. Gonna take a couple of weeks for them to get it back in stock, but that's about the best price you're going to find. After reading all the comments here, I succumbed and ordered the mono box from Amazon. I think delivery time is three weeks minimum. This will be on top of the seven stereo ones I purchased yesterday so it will be interesting to compare. I did the same exact thing today on Amazon (ordered the mono set though I no intention of doing so originally). By the way, which 7 Stereo CDs did you purchase?

One other question on the difference between Mono and Stereo versions, specifically regarding Rubber Soul. I am planning to buy the Mono Box set, while also purchasing some of the individual stereo versions (Abbey Road, Let it Be, The White Album, Sgt. Peppers, Revolver, Magical Mystery Tour), not the entire Stereo box set. I also want the Stereo version of Rubber Soul, but I thought I saw that the stereo version was included in the Mono Box set (along with the Mono version). Is this true? If it was, I am assuming it would be redundant for me to purchase the individual stereo version of Rubber Soul?

PM mono not on Stereo: Only A Northern Song
 All Together Now Hey Bulldog
 It's All Too Much
 PM stereo not on Mono: Ballad of John and Yoko Old Brown Shoe PM Mono on the Stereo: Love Me Do She Loves You I'll Get You You Know My Name (look up the #) Thanks, and just to confirm: Am I safe to assume that other than these differences, the same mono vs. stereo holds true for the other songs (i.e. Paperback Writer will appear in mono on the CD in the Mono box set and a stereo version of it exists likewise in the stereo set)??

I'm wondeirng if you have been able to compare the "Past Masters" CDs of each set against one another. I know that there are a few track variations on the second disc but aside from that I'm wondering if there are other differences (mono vs. stereo). I read somewhere in this thread that there are mono versions of some songs even on the Stereo version of Past Masters. Can you (or anybody) clear this up? Thanks, Norm