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Oscar Peterson album for those who don't like much OP
Peter Friedman replied to Larry Kart's topic in Recommendations
It is definitely interesting to see the range of opinions being expressed here. As a person who enjoys Oscar Peterson's playing, I find it odd how certain other piano players get high marks while i find much of what they play rather uninteresting / boring / dull. Though it goes against the prevailing opinions here, i much prefer to listen to Monty Alexander than Mal Waldron . A few of Waldron's early Prestige Trio albums are ok, but his later recordings are not for me. Also, his many sideman appearances on Prestige hard bop sessions always puzzled me. With so many other piano players around such as Duke Jordan, Al Haig, Tommy Flanagan,Kenny Drew, Barry Harris, Ray Bryant, Hank Jones, Richard Wyands, and others, why Waldron was on so many records made little sense to me. Also have to admit that while I have a lot of Red Garland's records, I never saw him as an A level jazz piano player. His trio records are pleasant and make for good background music, but I rarely found his solos more that ok. I will take the ones I just listed along with Horace Silver, Cedar Walton, Kenny Barron, Lou Levy, Frank Strazzeri and John Lewis over Mal Waldron and Red Garland every time. Just my personal opinion. -
Repetitiveness by Jazz musicians
Peter Friedman replied to Peter Friedman's topic in Miscellaneous Music
I believe there is a big difference between playing a phrase over and over on purpose to build tension or create a mood, compared to having favorite comfortable phrases and / or licks used in numerous different solos. The complete opposite is outside of (maybe?) free jazz is Warne Marsh. He seems to make it a prime goal to not use pet phrases / licks, and try to create new things in all his solos. But, at least for me, what I am saying is not simply that it is "better" to follow the Warne Marsh example. As I indicated in starting this thread, players such as Sonny Clark and Tommy Flanagan who I hear using certain phrases very often are musicians who I consider strong favorites -
Larry brought this up regarding Oscar Peterson. This has long been a topic I have found of interest. Three of my very favorite jazz piano players have certain phrases / licks that I have heard them play many many many times. it can sometimes be slightly annoying, but has not stopped me from considering these musicians to be strong favorites. I am referring to Sonny Clark, Hampton Hawes, and Tommy Flanagan. Wonder if others have any thoughts about repetitive playing by jazz musicians?
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Oscar Peterson album for those who don't like much OP
Peter Friedman replied to Larry Kart's topic in Recommendations
I have to take Miles comments about Oscar with a very large grain of salt. Miles also made negative comments about Duke Jordan and Jackie McLean among others, which tells me his judgement is greatly flawed. As I recall, he was not a big fan of Hank Mobley either. I seriously wonder if the many top level musicians who Peterson has played with really do agree with Allen. I am thinking of players such as Milt Jackson, Roy Eldridge, Coleman Hawkins, Dizzy Gillespie, Clark Terry, Lionel Hampton, Buddy DeFranco, Stan Getz, Ray Brown, NHOP, and numerous others? Somehow I seriously doubt that most of them would share Allen's opinion. But whether they do or do not, musical opinions are personal. Allen is certainly entitled to "hate" OP, and there are many who disagree. So be it. -
Oscar Peterson album for those who don't like much OP
Peter Friedman replied to Larry Kart's topic in Recommendations
Ted, you have to understand that Allen "hates" O.P. As you said, one may not be an O.P. fan, but Allen, for some peculiar reason, become irrational in his comments about Oscar. Personally, I have always enjoyed Oscar's playing. While I would not call him one of my favorite jazz piano players, he has made many recordings that I very much like. -
Xanadu Master Edition Series - Elemental Music
Peter Friedman replied to dougcrates's topic in Re-issues
Don Schlitten's musical taste is very similar to mine. So I tend to agree with Ubu that a large number of the original Xanadu releases were things I particularly liked. The Barry Harris, Jimmy Rowles, Al Cohn, Sam Noto, Teddy Edwards, Billy Mitchell, Ronnie Cuber, Sonny Criss, Jimmy Raney,Dolo Coker, Charles McPherson, and Jimmy Heath sessions were among the Xanadu LPs I bought when they first became available. It has always been disappointing for me that Don was so reluctant to have his Xanadu material reissued on CD. Thankfully I have been able to find some of them on French, Japanese, and a few American labels such as Prevue. Would very much like to see many other now become available. -
I don"t recall seeing any mention of the fine Brazilian jazz pianist Helio Alves. He has some good recordings on the Reservoir label.
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Happy Birthday, Mulgrew Miller, you are truly missed.
Peter Friedman replied to Hardbopjazz's topic in Artists
He left the world too young and is missed. -
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What about J.R. Monterose? He recorded a very good album on Blue Note, but actually recorded very little as leader or sideman over the course of his life. Ferdinand Povel and Jerry Weldon are some others.
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I need some good Dexter Gordon Recommendations
Peter Friedman replied to JCR1992's topic in Recommendations
A lot of really good albums by Dexter have already been suggested. I don't recall this one, among my favorites, being mentioned. -
The arrangement was by Stan Kenton. Personally I thought the arrangement sounded just what one might expect from that Band. It has the "classic" Kenton sound. Though I am not crazy about most of Kenton's recordings, and most of the tracks on this particular album are not to my taste, as a feature for John Park I liked this arrangement And as I said before, Park's solo is, to my ears, beautiful.. Anyone at all familiar with Kenton could pick out that this was his band immediately.
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Quick! What is the longest single jazz track that's good?
Peter Friedman replied to GA Russell's topic in Recommendations
Though not as lengthy as some other suggestions, at 13:26 "Funky Blues" might be my choice. It is the only opportunity to hear Charlie Parker, Johnny Hodges and Benny Carter together on one tune. You also get to hear Ben Webster, Flip Phillips, Charlie Shavers and Barney Kessel on that same tune. -
Here's a link, Peter: RomanoJFSR108bd.jpg Thanks Marcello. Would be nice if Fresh Sound would reissue it on CD. To hear a very special solo by John Park, try to get hold of this one. Stan Kenton - Birthday in Britain - Creative World Park has an alto solo on "Street of Dreams" on this album that is out of sight!!! A very close friend of mine - Jerry Atkins of Texarkana, TX- died a few years ago. He was extremely close to John Park and they got together frequently. Jerry accumulated a number of private small group recordings by Park taken from sessions in various clubs. The audio quality was not the best, but they give a good indication of Park's talent. Jerry, who played tenor sax himself, might have been John Park's number one fan.
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Definitely agree that Canadians Mike Murley and Phil Dwyer are overlooked / underrated. I was in Toronto about 4 years ago and heard a set by Mike Murley and he sounded magnificent on tenor. back when I lived in Rochester, NY I had numerous opportunities to hear Joe Romano when he would come home to visit his mother. He played both alto and tenor at a few different clubs. i particularly thought his tenor work was outstanding. Romano can be heard on a couple of Xanadu records led by Sam Noto. He is also on an Art Pepper 2 CD set called Live at Donte's on the Fresh Sound label. Not too many years before he died Joe put out a very fine Quintet CD titled "This Is The Moment". Fresh Sound released a quartet LP with Joe as leader. It also featured Frank Strazzeri on piano. Unfortunately I never have heard or even seen that album.
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Eric Dixon plays and solos on - "The Count Basie Kansas City 7" on the Impulse label.
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LF: Session Order Of J-Mac's Feb 15,1957 Prestige Session
Peter Friedman replied to JSngry's topic in Discography
I am a bit confused about whether there actually was an alternate take of "What's New"? It looks to me like that tune was recorded by two different groups. The quartet version with Mal Waldron, Art Phipps and Art Taylor. The version on the "Makin' The Changes" album is by a sextet with: Jackie McLean, Curtis Fuller, Webster Young, Gil Coggins, Paul Chambers, Louis Hayes recorded on August 30, 1957 -
I don't believe Betha Hope has been mentioned. She has a few very good CDs out, but I never hear anything about her.
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The Decathexis From Youth (For Cole) Manhattan Nocturne Both tunes are from the terrific CD by Charles McPherson - The Journey - on the Capri label.
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Charles Thomas He is a Memphis legend who had a major influence on Mulgrew Miller, James Williams and Donald Brown. Thomas has three excellent trio CDs out on the French - Space Time label -that are well worth acquiring. Cecilia Coleman Michael Weiss
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As has been said, overlooked is very subjective. Many of those mentioned already are not pianists I would consider overlooked within the jazz world. Pianists like Hampton Hawes, Carl Perkins and Martial Solal (for example) have been referred to frequently and with very positive reactions over many years. It is difficult for me to think of Don Friedman (no relation) as overlooked. He has recorded a very large number of albums as leader and also as a sideman. In my view, Albert Dailey does qualify. His Steeplechase session is, to my knowledge, the only one he did as leader. Two that I perceive to be overlooked are Hugh Lawson. He played and recorded with Yusef Lateef and has a couple of recordings as leader. Another is Barry Keiner. Barry was a marvelous jazz pianist who died very young. He made a couple of recordings as leader that were released on LP, but never reissued on CD. Barry had a lengthy gig at a club in Rochester, NY and spent a good amount of time on the Buddy Rich Band.
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I agree with Chuck. For my taste, the fifties had a load of outstanding recordings by Rollins as both leader and sideman.I liked a few things from the sixties, but after that there were some recordings i enjoyed, but nothing at the level of his 50;s sessions. Just my opinion.
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I tend to agree with Chuck that the Urbanity album did not engage me. The Savoy trio with wendell marshall and Kenny Clarke was far more to my taste. But by and large, it was Hank's later recordings with more of a bop sensibility that I enjoyed the most. Just read an interview from Jazz Journal with Kenny Barron. He said that Hank jones and Tommy Flanagan were his major piano influences. Back some decades ago I was at Bradley's in NYC to hear Tommy Flanagan. Had an opportunity to sit down with Tommy between sets. In our conversation, I asked him to what extent Teddy Wilson, Hank Jones and or Al Haig might have influenced his playing. He responded that yes Teddy Wilson and Hank Jones were influences, but not Al Haig.