The Magnificent Goldberg

Well, "Hummin'" was almost exactly half way through Nat's career. I thought Aloc meant in the nineties. MG

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Er, what electrified stuff in his late career? Never heard of anything like that. MG

Boxers are good, too. A friend of my wife's in Zimbabwe had a boxer. Came home one day to find two robbers in the hall with their throats torn out. "What did you say to the dog?" my wife asked. "Good dog!" MG

QRT is code for...? Quite Right Too. MG

Ah yes, you had to learn to forge that, didn't you? I'll have to think about how many. Perhaps I can sell them to Nigerians in exchange for a share of the profits of their scams. MG

No, but QRT. MG

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There are three issues here. One is change. There is always change. We hope that, on balance, this will be for the better. But unfortunately it isn't always. But whether good, bad or indifferent, you can't stop change. And that's good - even when change is for the worse. Second issue is how you bring that change about. And, in particular, whether you trample on individuals or not. And in this case, on whom you trample. As Paul said, the world OWES Bobby Robinson. That he should be a victim in this particular trampling way is terrible. (And the same goes for Shango, though there isn't the world legacy there, as is the case for Bobby; there's little doubt that the local legacy is important.) The third issue is, in this particular case, the culture that Harlem represents. And this can be looked at in two ways. From the outside, which is my perspective, and that of most of us, something indescribably unique and valuable is being destroyed. But from the inside something else is true. And that is that culture is made by people and happens wherever they happen to be. It will be different. But that doesn't matter, because it will be real. And this is not something new in Harlem. People have had the "Get out of the ghetto blues" for a long time. And, increasingly, following the Civil Rights movement, they have been able to do so. And who is to say they were wrong? Certainly not I. Isn't this what the Civil Rights movement was essentially aiming at? So that the culture of Harlem has been weakened for decades by the flight of the middle classes to suburbia, simultaneously with the flight to the suburbs of manufacturing industry, which provided jobs for the unskilled or minimally skilled, leaving a larger proportion of poor and even poorer people who, for a number of reasons, including crime and drugs etc, were and are less able to fight the tramplers - or at least to secure better terms. Because terms are the essence of this. It is fruitless railing at corporate greed when Harlem represents a patch of real estate that is incredibly convenient for downtown New York. I'm obviously not a New Yorker, but there can be little doubt that New York, as a network, NEEDS that real estate. That SHOULD have improved the ghetto's bargaining position but, without the middle classes, the bargain couldn't be made. I am really saddened by this. I don't think that has come through in what I've written. But my view is from the outside. MG

Actually, the 'Buy 10, Get 1 Free' sale is still in effect. I didn't see it advertised on their website, but if you put 10 albums in your cart, you'll see that one is listed as being free. (Might I add that several of these Nat titles are no longer available through the Concord site - which means they're about to be gone, gone, gone... They're still available through various resellers at reasonable prices - with the exception of 'In The Bag' - good luck with that one!) I didn't the other week. MG

You probably died of something else anyway. It's also possible that a lot of this stuff is caused by modern food processing. When people grow and prepare their own food, it's like what my mother used to say to me: "it's my own dirt". And hardly anyone could afford meat. MG

The incessant rain stopped today, so I had a little shopping trip into Cardiff and bought: A wonderful CD - I have got the first 8 tracks on original LPs but, of the new material, the title track is just incredible! I've been looking for this for ages - I didn't find out about it until after it had been deleted. But Spillers had managed to get one in and I snapped it up quickly, in preference to the Jimmy Smith Conn, at the same price. Checking the track list carefully, I find I have 45 of the 106 tracks already. So I may assemble the others into something, or perhaps combine them with vinyl drops of other material by the same artists. One of the problems with this type of compilation, though it's MUCH worse on a 4 CD set, is that there are no ballads or slow grinds included. If the aim, as it says on the cover, is to present a history of this style, at least a few ballads and slow grinds are very important. Those guys could play a ballad so sexy, there'd be knickers all over the dance floor at the end! Same with slow, rocking blues. That was what this music was FOR! Still, the lack didn't stop my buying this, even though I knew what to expect MG

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there was one sideman date where Nat Adderley really stood out that i listened to recently... don't have it here to check but iirc it was Don Wilkerson's Texas Twister... get that one while you can still get it at least at a half-decent price! The REAL Sonny Cox was the alto player with a sixties Chicago organ band called The Three Souls. Made two LPs for Cadet under that name and one under Cox's name (augmented band). Cox sounds rather like a chicken being strangled at times. MG see that organissimo thread i've quoted... if Larry Kart says the're the same person... Zowie! I didn't read the thread until you instructed me to. Yes, if Larry says they're the same person, and they both had the same first name, Landon. Anyway, I don't agree with whoever it was on the other thread who said Cox was a Hank Crawford clone. I've never heard an alto player who sounded LESS like Crawford than Cox. MG

Prices in the Concord sale are held until 31 January (it sed a few weeks ago) - and you can still use the code mentioned in the Concord sale thread, to get yourself another 10% off. It's just the one free from ten offer that's gone. But still a good deal, I'd say. I'll be sending in another order just before the end of the month. MG

I lost the instructions to my current watch about a week after I bought it, perhaps ten years ago. I know which button to press to see the date. I know how to use it as a stopwatch. But buggered if I can remember how to change the date and time! When I travel abroad, or when daylight saving begins or ends here, I just press buttons in random order and eventually, usually after about twenty minutes have been taken out of my life, the seconds start flashing, so I know I've made it into change date & time mode. But I still don't know how I did it, so it's the same next time. MG

there was one sideman date where Nat Adderley really stood out that i listened to recently... don't have it here to check but iirc it was Don Wilkerson's Texas Twister... get that one while you can still get it at least at a half-decent price! The REAL Sonny Cox was the alto player with a sixties Chicago organ band called The Three Souls. Made two LPs for Cadet under that name and one under Cox's name (augmented band). Cox sounds rather like a chicken being strangled at times. MG

(Wow! I didn't realise we had some really young people here ) MG

Bonne anniversaire!!! MG

Nice post, MG I agree about the attractiveness of Nat and Blue's pure sound. To that "lovely sound" group, I would also add Miles Davis, Art Farmer, and Thad Jones. They didn't need many notes to really move you. They could do it with the beauty of their sound/tone. Yes, Art is one I would have mentioned, had I not forgotten I think I agree with you about Thad, but I don't think I've really got enough of his work to judge - one LP's worth on the Turrentine Mosaic and, I think, another on the Stitt Mosaic, is about all. MG

See here, Tom! http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=3197

Tom posted this yesterday So I thought I'd start a thread. But I found I didn't need to! My take on Cannonball is different; I started buying his albums because I loved Nat's playing so much. "Work song" was one of the early Soul Jazz albums I bought, in 1961, really before I knew much about it, and therefore had quite an impact on the development of my ideas. A funny thing is, until the last few months, I never bothered with other Riverside albums by Nat. I've got tons of his stuff, but mostly later recordings. But I'm really enjoying Branching out Much brass In the bag Little big horn Others I've had for a while that are in regular circulation on my player are Sayin' Somethin'/Live at Memory Lane - Atlantic twofer on Collectables with Joe Henderson (from 1966/67) A little New York midtown music - Galaxy (OJC) (1978) Noble & Nat - King Snake (1990) (great joint effort with Noble "Thin Man" Watts) Talkin' about you - Landmark (1990) The old country - Enja (1990 again) Workin' - Timeless (live in Berlin 1992) A Night in Manhattan - Alfa Jazz (also 1992) Good company - Challenge (1994) Live at the Floating Jazz Festival - Chiaroscuro (1994) - Nat tells some great stories on this 2 CD set, as well as the music - like Cannon, he had the gift of the gab Mercy mercy mercy - Alfa Jazz (Evidence) (1995) As a sideman, Nat played on some great sessions. Some of my favourites that haven't been mentioned are King Curtis - The new scene of King Curtis - New Jazz (OJC) King Curtis - Soul meeting - Prestige (OJC) Gene Ammons - Goodbye - Prestige (OJC) Gene Ammons - And friends at Montreux - Prestige (OJC) Don wilkerson - The Texas twister - Riverside (OJC) James Clay - A double dose of soul - Riverside (OJC) Bennie Green & Gene Ammons - The swingin'est - VeeJay Yes, I listen to Nat a whole lot more than I listen to Cannon. I love the SOUND of Nat's cornet. and, though I really like Cannon's playing, I'm not so keen on his sound, compared to Lou Donaldson, Sonny Criss or Sonny Cox. So, to me, Nat is really on a par with Blue Mitchell because, in their different ways, they both made beautiful sounds on their instruments; lovelier than any other trumpet/cornet/flugelhorn players. MG

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This is near the top of my OJC list for later this month. Glad to see such enthusism for it. MG

VSOP also released Plas Johnson's "Bop me daddy" from Tampa. Interesting reissue firm... MG