The Magnificent Goldberg

This one is the same cover art as the Prestige, I believe. The one that Clifford mentions is 'Outward Bound' I think (have that one also in the Esquire edition) - cover art by John Marshall ! They can be scarce as only a very limited pressing was done for most of the titles back in the late 50s/early 60s. UK pressings then came under the Transatlantic/XTRA logos. In between Esquire and Transatlantic, EMI was releasing Prestige in Britain on the Stateside label. MG I really like the few Esquires I've picked up , heavy vinyl but light weight if very glossy sleeves. Pressings seem very fine although I can't compare them to anything else as I pick up only what I've not got already on CD. Not sure when the transition to Transatlantic was made but those seem pretty good too. Certainly better VFM these days compared to US Prestiges/New Jazz originals. Best Esquires so far for me have been Teo Macero- Quartet, Informal Jazz Elmo Hope and Mal Waldron Impressions- all in best condition I've ever seen 50 year old LPs. The cover of the Macero is the same as the equivalent OJC CD the others I'm not sure about. British issues of Prestige main series albums The last Prestige to be first issued by Esquire was Jack McDuff's "Screamin'" (PR7259 - Esq 32-196) The first Prestige to be first issued by EMI on Stateside was Jack McDuff's "Live" (PR 7274 - SL10060) The last Prestige to be first issued by EMI on Stateside was Carol Ventura's "I love to sing" PR7405 - SL10180 (WTF? - well, it was recorded in London) The Prestige discography table of equivalents doesn't mention the Transatlantic issues because they used PR7XXX numbers (except for the budget reissues on Xtra), so I don't know what the first one was. The earliest one I've got (or ever seen that I can remember) is Johnny "Hammond" Smith's "The stinger" - PR7408. MG

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Jack McDuff - Live at the Jazz Workshop - Stateside mono Charles Earland - Black talk - Prestige orig Don Patterson - Hip cake walk - Prestige orig stereo in mono sleeve with mono label - how's about that, then? MG

Funniest thing I've seen all year! Is it for real or a joke? MG

Oh, for vocalists with a different approach, you might try Ernie Andrews and Irene Reid. There should be samples on the Jazz Depot site. MG

Absolutely my view as well. When I play those LPs, I always skip the Althea Young tracks. In fact, her singing made me get rid of "Heaven on earth". MG

Damn! I missed it! But happy birthday Patricia! And I hope you had a good day, and didn't disgrace yourself in the posh restaurant! MG

This one is the same cover art as the Prestige, I believe. The one that Clifford mentions is 'Outward Bound' I think (have that one also in the Esquire edition) - cover art by John Marshall ! They can be scarce as only a very limited pressing was done for most of the titles back in the late 50s/early 60s. UK pressings then came under the Transatlantic/XTRA logos. In between Esquire and Transatlantic, EMI was releasing Prestige in Britain on the Stateside label. MG

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Thanks - I have them anyway. I just thought it was strange on a JDF discography page that they didn't appear; concluding they were deleted. But of course, it's just another piece of evidence that they don't ave a decent system (either tech or knowledgeable people) which can tie all these different records up. MG

Oh, well, I've gotta say, "Thank you, Noj". MG

So, why don't they appear on the Concord site? Is this just another example of how poor the site is? MG

Sonny Clark Trio - 3 vol Toshiba reissue. Beeeee-yutiful! MG

But how does socially responsible investment get Verve to reissue the stuff? Well, it doesn't. It STILL depends on there being a Jazz market out there which can produce returns which can command a share of non-infinite investment moneys. Now, insofar as that Jazz market is served by half a dozen or more different producing divisions (US/Canada, Europe, Japan, other Far East, South Africa, Australasia etc), each of which has to produce a return on their particular fraction of a small fraction of a total market, then it looks extremely difficult for Verve (or any of the other multinationals' jazz arms) to win the internal competition for investments. The move towards a non-product thing must improve the prospects, if companies like Universal can get the regional thing out of their systems - for example, profits would be higher without any extra costs for Universal, were they to start making their downloads through emusic available in Europe, instead of just the US. Obviously Universal Europe doesn't want that to happen (yet?). (GRRRR!) MG

Well, I suppose, but when you look at how markets actually move -- mostly through the transactions of truly enormous pension funds, university portfolios, mutual funds and hedge funds, there really isn't that much that concerned individuals can do to swing the market around, although one can invest responsibly at a personal level. Interestingly, there have in fact been lawsuits that ultimately forced all public universities to invest like "everybody else," rather than in a socially responsible way. I'd like to get figures on what the proportion of socially responsible mutual funds are compared to the entire market -- one recent estimate is it is about 3% of the value of the US market, but growing slightly. Here's a website to start you on your way: Socially responsible investing Yeah, I know it's an uphill climb, to put it mildy. No illusions here. But it's a climb worth making. More unlikely turnarounds in public consciousness have happened. If the principle that collective individual monies can be used to reward/punish certain "behaviors" is a fallacious one, then I recant. But I don't think that it is. And if it's not, then the rest, as a techno-futurist buddy of mine likes to put it, is "just a matter of engineering". Yes, it IS an uphill climb. But I've banked with the Co-op - the UK's pioneer in socially responsible investment - for over 30 years now and I've never regretted it. But the Co-op's the smallest of the UK clearing banks. And I don't see it moving to #1 any time soon. What would be a bit less of an uphill climb would be a more level playing field in terms of international trade. It can, indeed, be shown that free trade benefits the parties at both ends. But that is based on an assumption that ain't true - that the third world end of the trade is not operating on an exploitative (either personnel- or environment-wise) model. But third world governments have no interest in operating under the same rules about child labour etc as we do, partly because they fear it would mean the end of such investment as they're getting now (probably true) and partly because those who run the governments are corrupt and in the pockets of the multi-nationals. This is a situation that western politicians have allowed to go on unchecked because supporting these corrupt governments seemed a good idea, particularly in the cold war, but also because they, too, have been suborned by the multinationals. MG

Nice thread. I keep seeing it and meaning to read it, but haven't until now. One thing that was immediately noticeable about that article on 2006 sales was that Gospel and Latin music sales INCREASED. I think that actually matches with Robert H's comments about sales of obsolete tech in the past. In the '60s, I recall a Billboard article about a record company that had a Latin hit and had to search around for a 78 press, because in the Barrio, where this single was selling, they didn't have too many 45 players and NEEDED 78s. The same has been true in Gospel - K7s and LPs remained the rule in that market for a lot longer than for other types of music. But what that means is that if a section of the public really rejects a tech, then the industry has, does, and will provide in some other way. Of course, they may not do it for Jazz because its market isn't clearly located in a section of the community in the way that Gospel and Latin musics are. (And maybe that's part of the economic problem.) MG

So, Concord has already deleted both of his albums with Jimmy Smith - "Incredible" and "Legacy". Incredible what they're doing with their legacy MG

I have a marginal preference for Again. But I wouldn't be without either. MG

WHo's Angelina Jolie? MG

Ah! One of Woody Herman's albums from the '60s/'70s? He made a few for Cadet, I remember. MG

I seem to remember seeing stuff on TV about this guy. I think he was a LOT more entertaining than the bookseller who declared independence for Hay-on-Wye. MG

Neither of those links to the original article is working. Can anyone help? MG

Thanks for posting that Andy - great, interesting, interview. MG

There's a Rock singer called Steve Miller. Is that the one you meant? MG

Help - I've just pressed control and something and it's all gone small. How do I get out of this folks? MG