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I always shied away from buying it (which wouldn't be difficult to do here), waiting for a better reissue, but it seems with the Getz/Brookmeyer VME they had the same problem: no additional material might be released... HELL! osama-bin-whatever, get the fuck out of here! ubu

uh, so the Navarro/Dameron stuff does not belong here! Jim, are these Thornhill things still available? I recently bought a cheap Thornhill one disc comp. (Past Perfect) without any specifics given. I will start a thread on this once I have it with me in front of a working computer, and ask if anyone has more info on that - might be, partially at least, transcriptions. ubu

Ubu, suggest you look for 'New Dance' which was reissued on Hatology. You're in for a treat!! I have been rediscovering Ortega for years. Thanks, brownie - that's the one our russian friend (you remember him, don't you?) mentioned as even better, I guess! Would you be interested in getting a Steamboat CDR, too? Feel free, if you like, there's a couple of them left. Just please pm me your postal address as my notebook is down at the moment. Do you have any more information on Ortega? I know his name, I know he was in the backing band of a Johnny Hartman Bethlehem album in the fifties, and shows up on some other things I have (all without solo space for horns), and I have seen teh two hatOLOGY albums, but never yet listened to them. Seems he's a pretty interesting character! ubu

anyone able to give some info or shortest reviews about any of the above discs? I guess I don't need all the Burton and Corea stuff (though I like the Atlantic album Burton did with Jarrett! And the Throb Burton album attached to the Jarrett/Burton on the Rhino CD is pretty cool, too!). Codona, Vasconcelos, Gismonti and the Folks songs one look like world music rather than jazz, yes?

Source: http://www.marinopliakas.com/OS-promo.html Hope this is of any use. I did include a little bit more information further up in this thread. ubu

here comes the list, hope I make not too many errors, but being at work Abercrombie/Holland/DeJohnette, Getaway Adams, Sound Suggestions AEC, Nice Guys P.Bley, Open to Love Brand (Ibrahim), African Piano Burton/Corea, Crystal silence Burton, New quartet Burton/Swallow, hotel hello Burton Quartet, Passengers Codona Bill Connors, Of mist and melting Corea, piano improvisations vol.1 Corea/Burton, IN concert Zurich DeJohnette, New Directions Garbarek, Sart Garbarek/Stenson, Witchi-Tai-To Garbarek, Places Gismonti, Danca das cabecas Mick Goodrick, IN Pas(s)ing Haden/Garbarek/Gismonti, Folk songs Holland, COnference of the birds Holland, Emerald Tears Jarrett, Facing you Jarrettt Arbour Zena Jarrett, Survivors' Suite Jarrett, My Song Jarrett, Spheres Jarrett, Personal Mountains Lande, Red Lanta Liebman, Drum Ode Pat Metheny Group Metheny, Bright Size Life Stephan Micus, Implosions Paul Motian, COnception Vessel Gary Peacock, December Poems Barre Philipps, Mountainscaspes Rava, Pilgrim & The Stars Rypda, After the Rain Rypdal, Waves Stanko, Balladyna Surman, Upon Reflection Towner, SOlstice Town,er Solo COncert Vasconcelos, Saudades Vesala, Satu Vitous. First Meeting Waldron, Free at Last Weber, Colours of Chloe Weber Yellow Fields Wheeler, Gnu High I have the HOlland (Conference...), Wheeler, Jarrett (My Song, Personal MOuntains); Garbarek Witchi-tia-to, Ibrahim, Towner Solo Concert and Weber Colours.. CDs. Like them all. Surman, Stanko, Vesala, Waldron and some more of teh Jarretts would sure be worthwhile! ubu

Wow John! Very very cool! I like all of them! This one might be my favorite: IMPORTANT: I do not know if my laptop will work these days! PLEASE EVERYBODY SEND ME YOUR POSTAL ADRESSES TO MY ORGANISSIMO-PM BOX AGAIN! (Geoff, I just got yours... ) I will get the discs tonight, and hope to be able to send them out tomorrow. I guess the ones going to the US and to Australia won't arrive in time... John, you can PM us the links to your site and everybody can choose his own cover, no? Hell, real custom orange slices! Very cool work, indeed! me likee! ubu

Thanks. I have that album on vinyl (was it ever released on CD?), but haven't listened to it in a while. Need to dig it out and give it a listen. Yes, it is on CD. I only recently got it. It's either Atlantic or Rhino, probably Rhino. And probably OOP. ubu

Lazaro, that last paragraph of your post states very much the same Jost says (and remember he said that in a book published in 1972, on which he worked most probably in the late sixties, already). Murray and Cyrille were the right guys, and with them, it seems, everything in Taylor's music fell in place. On the influences on Taylor, Jost points to Lennie Tristano and Dave Brubeck. He quotes from Williams' book "Four lives of Bebop" (or similar), some interview passages were Taylor himself speaks about Brubeck and Tristano. I cannot emulate all Jost writes here from memory. Then it seems Taylor heard Silver playing opposite Brubeck and perceived it as Brubeck imitating Silver. From then on he was interested more in the "black" side, and less in the attempts to produce an amalgamation of jazz and european music (which was why he early on was fascinated by both Brubeck and Tristano). Interesting, then, is that Jost, after describing the ways and developpement of Taylor, in his close reading of "Unit Structures", mentions, how close parts of the exhibition of the thematic material (going from memory the first four minutes or so of the track) come to new music. But this then, would be from a wholly different angle - not the trial to do like fugues or something, wrapped in jazzy rhythms, but rather, having succeeded in developping his own musical structuralism, his own scheme how to do things, how to get rid of the theme-solos-theme structure, Taylor's music can indeed at times sound almost like "Neue Musik" (I don't know if the term "new music" as I used it before describes the same thing). On a more personal basis, though, even with knowledge of the the points Jost discusses, much of Taylor's music, and often with Sunny Murray on drums, sounds like "just the usual high energy (post-Coltrane) sixties free jazz" (not to diss that, though!). I mean, you can often not figure out without repeated listenings/explorations, how complex that music is, and how (even if partly/mostly improvised on the spot) constructed it is. Yet somehow, the music often is extremely dense and never opens up or slows down or lets some air to breathe in between, and that's not only a challenge, in my opinion, but rather, sometimes, a pretty boring thing... ubu

Д.Д. - are you aware that there is an ECM sale going on here (well, at least in Zurich). They sell 50 titles form the seventies for CHF 20 (the list price being Euro 15.5 or something, and the usual price in shops here being from 33-36CHF, that's quite alright). I bought Jarrett's My Song and one or two others so far. The small brochure they have in the shops says sale until feb 04, but I would not trust that! On the Gayle again: the drummers do change, not the bassists. It seems the the first drummer is simply on disc 1 and the second on disc 2. Cool that this swiss online site works! I've got to put some orders there... but Chaney and Geoff seem to know the problem... HELL! ubu

John, how much do they charge for shipping? ubu

Well, I'm not one of the more knowledgeable members here, but I do have some transcription recordings (some in Mosaic sets, like the Kenton, the Peggy Lee, some on LPs), and I guess my favorites are the various Tadd Dameron broadcasts. I like the ones after Fats Navarro had left the band just as much as the ones with Fats. Great music! People like Rudy Williams, Kai Winding, Allen Eager in the band, later the "big ten" groups with the likes of Sahib Shihab, Cecil Payne, Miles... some wonderful music! (Fantasy, btw, released a CD of some of this material - no big ten stuff, however - which has better sound quality than the other releases I have) ubu

now you're some real sick guys! ubu

Mike, we seem to be pretty rare birds! Europeans seemingly don't buy Mosaics... At least there are some stores who always carry one of two of them. You could, for instance, buy the Teddy Wilson for around 200$ there... I wonder if there are people crazy enough to buy these! ubu

Maybe you are right, Lon. Maybe one should see the whole trend to spirituality in those years as of its time, and yet meant true. I remember now having read a chapter in a book of J.E. Behrendt on this topic. I shall look at that again, having in memory it was interesting. About the orchestrations, you're certainly right! Amazing music, very textural, beautiful music! ubu

uh, I freaked up! My bad: I wanted to say: I don't know anybody (except me, that is...) who DOES OWN a Mosaic. I mean, people I know, meat, talk to in real life - (that's not to diss anyone here, but there IS some difference). I would sure like to get some of these sets, however... ubu

Scott, I don't intend to diss the music, and I found the disc surprisingly good, BUT: do you really think this is spirituality? To me, it sounded just very much of its time, and I really would not know if I could describe this music as spriritual. ubu

This is a little bit of a problem. But keeping an overview over this thread is rather difficult, as it grows and grows... On the other hand, Jim's two discs include that much good music, it really would be a shame we had only one disc of that! By the way, the idea of Disc2,#1 being Eric Kloss gets me interested again in that musician. I only have the already mentioned Fantasy CD coupling two dates with Patterson, and like that one quite much. Got to dig up disc two again as soon as I can and have another listen! ubu

Uh, no problem! I bet my attack has been caused by there being too few jazz fans dying around here... ahem... and, seriously, I know not one person here who owns at least one Mosaic set, believe it or not... ubu

You know, I was seriously troubled by this one: ubu

And, just for your birthday Couw... to go with those Freedom Fries... I even got you ALL the ingredients to make your very own Hello Kitty™ brand Mayonnaise!!! (Don’t all Europeans put that Mayo glop on their fries??) Here ya go!!! (And as with many presents: "Some Assembly Required"... as in, you'll have to put these together yourself with Photoshop. ) PLUS This had me laughing out loud Rooster! ubu

wow, having looked at the contents, I really should consider getting this! ubu

Cool, thanks! I hope I can afford this as long as it is around! (I am seriously considering a buying stop... ) ubu

cool, Claude, thanks! ubu

je voulais dire, trop douce, naturellement... "Ma femme est mort, je suis libre!" ubu (le roi des toute la polognie) (je veux du gateau!)