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There's a recent article about Dial's classical recordings - but I don't have access via my university log-in, just tried various ways ... if anyone can, drop me a not privately please! HOEK, D. J.: Beyond Bebop: Dial Records and the Library of Contemporary Classics, in: ARSC Journal (Association for Recorded Sound Collections). 2013;44(1): pp. 70-98. Abstract: Renowned for its recordings of Charlie Parker and other bebop artists, Dial Records holds a prominent place in jazz history. But upon Parker's departure from the label in 1948, Ross Russell, Dial's owner, took the company in another direction by turning from jazz to modern classical music. At a time when few classical labels were presenting contemporary repertoire, Dial's Library of Contemporary Classics, a series of eighteen long-playing albums issued from 1949 to 1951, featured works by Arnold Schoenberg and other twentieth-century composers, introducing listeners to an array of striking new sounds. While today Dial's bebop recordings are prized by collectors and studied by must- cians and scholars, the classical series is largely forgotten, though it constitutes another important part of Dial's history and legacy. An abbreviated version of this article was presented at the ARSC Annual Conference in Rochester, New York, on 19 May 2012.

I have the Buck Clayton session (rec. on Oct. 10, 1949, BTW) on THREE vinyl reissues: 1) Part of it on "Buck" (Jazz Selection LDM 30.021) 2) All of it on "Buck's Mood" (Vogue DP.73 double album), and 3) All of it again on "Buck Clayton / "Jazz Tracks" (Bellaphon BJS 40181) If you are desperate for this session you han have #3 cheaply (its contents are all on #2 too so it is in my duplicates/sale/trade bin). No doubt there are more reissues. I also have the entire Dec. 8-10, 1947 sessions by Rex Stewart on "Rex in Paris 1947-1948" (Barclay 80.972/80.973 2-LP set) as well as part of it on the Jazz Legend label (Jazz Legend No. 6) - surplus to me too, so you can have that Jazz Legend LP too if you want to. Thx, but I'm not really looking for those right now (and would prefer CD). Have enough Buck Clayton (including the Mosaic - vinyl btw - which is pretty wonderful) and am not really conviced by all of Stewart's leader sessions I've heard so far (though I think he's got some on the H.R.S. label which should be fine - and obviously I enjoy his contributions to Ellington's band).

Re: "Jazz in Paris", yes, seems so (Byas, Tyree Glenn, Moody, Django...) - not sure about the Rex Stewart dates (Dec 8-10, 1947) Not sure about the Vogue date by Buck Clayton (Oct 10, 1949) either - hasn't been part of any of the Original Vogue Masters discs - was it included on one of the earlier generations of Vogue reissues? Same for the Hines (Nov 4 & 6, 1949) and Willie "The Lion" Smith (Jan 29, 1950) - don't know those recordings, I think. (date for Clayton session fixed - thx Steve!)

The Norvo's that date with Diz and Bird, right? Or is there more? Guess then the Marmarosa tracks are the only ones that escape me in their entirety ... (the Garner as well, but I'm definitely not a Garner completist). Hm. Let's wait and see. Seing this get the Mosaic treatment may indeed be a treat, but then.

Okay, thx - it also says in bold print "All tracks previously unreleased" and since Carol T. and Popkin were involved, I guess that's correct ... so DOH! (And that should have been "Mosca" of course, not "Mosac" - sorry). I've not yet been able to grab all those Jazz Records (quite an imaginative way to name a label, isn't it?) by Tristano, guess I should. "Birdland '49" (with some lacky info, if I remember right?) is the only one I have. Looks pretty darn good though!

Wow! Can't quite keep up with their release schedule of late though ... still don't have the Chubby Jackson or Gryce or Christian or their Dexter disc, nor the Coles/Wess ... had to get the Jacquet/Parker and Pres as they were released. Guess I have some shopping to do there! Also still missing the McGhee ... here's the back-cover w/details: Has this been out previously? On that old Tristano/Mosac/whatever label? What's it called again?

starting with Vol. 1 ... some weird stuff on the first discs, with slide whistles, french cabaret vocals, musette etc. - but there's this dude Jeangot or Jiango plucking away happily on a banjo ... and pretty soon, things will evolve that are still pretty miraculous to my ears!

I'm not necessarily buying that "close to the source equals authoritative" argument, but hey ... this indeed looks good - here's a review: http://www.musicweb-international.com/classRev/2003/Oct03/InHonor_of_Rudolf_Kolisch.htm

Yeah, I guess you can add me to that list, too

I'm not saying anything that makes your decision to buy these at the time wrong. No need to get personally insulting. I would have bought those INA discs had I been around and seen 'em, for sure. And yeah, we all know rekkid business is evil anyway and no one gets properly paid - but no reason to get flat out cynical about it all. I'm not picking a fight here, it's all about the music and I'm really just expressing my gratitude for what Sue Mingus did and does - that's all there is to it.

Wow, I've got the whole run of Condon Chronos, and that's glorious music! And lots of it! Will be great to see it receive the Mosaic treatment! James P. sounds terrific as well! Regarding Dial I'm in the same boat as others here, I have the Bird material and several others of those Spotlite reissues (the Gordon disc is outstanding). But I'll wait and see what it's going to contain.

Alas I'm not listening closely these days, but I've had both since the late 90s. The Morgan wasn't exactly love at first sight, but the Mobley sure was! Into disc 3 of it by now. Thoroughly enjoying all those dates with the Messengers gang - Doug Watkins was so darn good!

Yup! And please don't give us that hypocrisy crap again, there's really no need to go there. We all know some business is destroyed by bootleggers, we know some legit business is marred by inability of businesspersons (or mere unwillingness to do something ... how 'bout the Xanadu catalogue please?) ... so here and there, bootleggers step in and we are glad they do, but with someone such as Sue Mingus, I'm happy to re-buy stuff. She did a few good things: Revenge!, the UCLA set, now the glorious Mosaic box ... if the Ronnie's recordings get out as well, I'd love it, obviously! (Although, of course the music's in circulation so I might be a hypocrite if I buy it, but I don't give a flying poop, really.)

disc one - probably more tomorrow

just finished this (started yesterday): great!

Oh shit, no, this is very sad! Will dig up some of his music - what a wonderful sound he had. Sorry to hear it's silent forever now.

That discog is slightly botched. "Orange Was the Color of Her Dress" is definitely on c. Bottom line: if you have the 2 late 80s Esoldun/INA releases -- c and d in that discography -- you do not need e. All 3 of c, d and e do incorrectly state the date as 4/18/64. Except those were bootlegs and the Revenge! release isn't.

I'd say get anything from that 1964 tour that you can lay hands on - including the Mosaic set w/extended Town Hall concert and also BN's Cornell release! That band was on fire and there's nothing quite like it!

Started yesterday with this ... one of my favourites! Not so sure about the Pass - the best of it is very fine, but actually I think I can kinda follow Cuscuna's aversion against Les McCann ... okay, dude brings good vibes a plenty, and he's after all on "Swiss Movement" (which is a personal favourite of mine, has been for many years), but after two or three tunes, I think I've heard the two or three grooves he's got goin' on and am ready to move on. Were it not for Pass, I'd not be interested in these dates at all. The sessions with second guitar instead of piano ... well, some of it is just a bit too cute for my likings. That sounds pretty negative, which is not how it should - it's just one set I'd rather give ***1/2 instead of *****.

Belated best, Dan!

Discs 3-7

Thx etherbored! I'd be interested to know about the steps in the whole manufacturing process, as I said above. And wherein the margins lie, i.e. how can the purely technical side of production interfere with sonics? That example about poor T-Rex Jr. fans without volume buttons on their equipment might be an indication indeed. But then: why don't labels or the engineers they hire hand over protected files that can't be edited and come in the correct format?

Me too, but I don't like that abbreviation ... prince Harry might differ though Haven't caught her live yet, but I surely hope to do so eventually (same for PatKop whom I just missed - simply no time right now).

Thanks a lot, Jim! I'll look into some of these when I have more time at my hands! And I will try to get hold of the Road Sessions for sure! Whatever ducal dance session I've heard of the 50s and 60s was always a pleasure to hear!