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Belated best, Dan!

Discs 3-7

Thx etherbored! I'd be interested to know about the steps in the whole manufacturing process, as I said above. And wherein the margins lie, i.e. how can the purely technical side of production interfere with sonics? That example about poor T-Rex Jr. fans without volume buttons on their equipment might be an indication indeed. But then: why don't labels or the engineers they hire hand over protected files that can't be edited and come in the correct format?

Me too, but I don't like that abbreviation ... prince Harry might differ though Haven't caught her live yet, but I surely hope to do so eventually (same for PatKop whom I just missed - simply no time right now).

Thanks a lot, Jim! I'll look into some of these when I have more time at my hands! And I will try to get hold of the Road Sessions for sure! Whatever ducal dance session I've heard of the 50s and 60s was always a pleasure to hear!

Please do, I'd be interested! (Unless someone who does know the process and has inside knowledge about how majors handle this jumps in here, of course!) No, at least not in latin letters ... there are Japanese liner notes too, so I have no clue what it all says in there or on the OBI. "Manufactured in the E.U." is the only bit I can read on the OBIs, except for some dates, a catalogue number, a 24bit logo, price in yen ...

Really, people posting here should be forced to listen to all that stuff!

Don't! Who cares, the discussion was very interesting! And we don't get all that many of those lately ... Not in my book, never been very fond of these. But I guess I have to dig them up and listen again ... as for J.J. I much prefer his Blue Note sessions or the one with Sonny Stitt and John Lewis on Prestige (now that LP would never be underrated because it opens with the glorious Stitt on tenor w/Bud Powell sessions - but the second half yeah, I guess that might be somewhat underrated). Never been that much of a Winding fan, and for Bennie Green, I'm afraid those tracks haven't left a lasting impression (while later albums did, most notably "Soul Stirrin'" of course, which was the first I ever heard of his).

another obit: http://www.sfchronicle.com/news/texas/article/Jazz-funk-pioneer-Joe-Sample-dies-at-75-5753599.php

CDs 5 and 6 now spinning. Those latter PJ albums are really good ! Yup, they even make "Hey Jude" sound like ... not 200% but only about 198% awkward True, true, though I think the Reprise box has more interesting surprises on it than the Capitol box. Not that I'd part with that one, you understand! gregmo Yes, I'm all with you! But the Capitol has those lovely trio sessions! When I first got the box, small group Ellington to me was limited to "Back to Back" -- and trio Ellington to "Money Jungle" ... obviously none of his other trio dates is quite up there, so young me didn't really *get* those Capitol trios, but by now, I'm really fond ot 'em (same goes, I guess, for "Live at the Whitney" -- I think some enthusiast comment by Mr. Sangrey led me to check those out with newly adjusted ears ...) Just finished discs 1 and 2 of the other Mosaic I just got (the Clooney was really just a filler to make a bit more sense wrt to shipping costs):

sounds like a Paul Simon cover album ...

Yeah, I guess he was a few steps further than most of us (goes for the jacket, too!):

I know ... but Nimbus might be. So yeah, a used copy is the better idea for sure.

So Ellington was on the moon, too?

Sorry, my bad - it's MusicMasters, this one: and this is the currently in print (or CD-R on demand, I'd love to know, if it's CD proper I'd buy it in a second!) one: http://www.amazon.com/Great-Concerts-Chicago-Duke-Ellington/dp/B002BZOVHU/

Okay, if they have morons at pressing plants that make technical mistakes, that is indeed an explanation. And as we know, some majors have stopped any quality control decades ago, so yes, that's indeed a good point! But on the other hand, so far I was under the assumption that pressing plants would get *something* that they just execute (i.e. I send my PDF to the printer and tell them how to print it - and if they don't do it that way, I don't pay unless they get it right - and to not get it right, they need be morons indeed). But I have no idea what steps in the manufacturing might actually only be done at a pressing plant (or what the margin of possible intererence is), as I really have no idea how a CD, step by step, is produced.

Those are what I have (Red Baron). They sound good, as do the prior LP issues. Thanks! I'll see if I can get them for okay prices - seems offers online are a mess (confusing Vols 1 and 2 and the Collectables and those Sony/Red Baron ones). But I'll have to try, at least, since I really want to hear those! Only have some copies of LaserLight releases. There's also a 2CD set "The Great Chicago Concerts", with Django sitting in .... this set is out again on Nimbus, but with Nimbus you might get CD-Rs, so I don't feel like ordering ...

I still can't imagine different handling of things in the pressing plant accounts for different sound! And thanks for the info, Lon - those two go onto my shopping list, then, I guess .... I really love those recordings! Any other of the Carmen McRae albums in the series that you (or anyone else) can recommend?

I could *never* figure out how to copy one of those ... but gladly some of those Blue Notes I bought as copycraps have by now been reissued again in Japan. Still, a few remain that I'd love to replace as well, but those OOP Conns aren't exactly cheap (and they might indeed be copycrap again). Would still love to replace "Tex Book Tenor" and "Like Someone In Love" with proper CDs eventually ("The Flip" is out in Japan as well, but I've not re-bought it yet, already did re-buy "Of Love and Peace" and "Mother Ship").

Other question: what about those live discs released by an unknown-to-me outfit by name of Squatty Roo? This one looks tempting:

Question: what's the best way to acquire the Road Band albums? CD preferrably ... I see some 1990 Sony ones listed?

That's the one by Monk with Art Bureikizu, yes? I assume the Anniversary digipack (the brown bag one) was in stereo?

Yeah, thanks soulpope! However, this begs another question, since the pressing plant is handed material (glass masters or whatever) from which they go. I'd never have supposed the actual manufacturing part of a CD to make a big difference (okay, there are a pair of different ways to "finish" the product, you get rough edges or not ...), but if it's about harshness and spatiousness - that would again account for different masters, I'd assume? As this is just a discussion - mind me, I don't doubt any of it - but not an account of actual comparison, the question to me still is open. I guess I might eventually get one of the Japanese Connor discs of which I've just bought a Euro edition ... but I don't plan on buying any of these in the next weeks. WPCR-27901 + WPCR-27902 That's the one I have (the red digipack with all the music on one disc) - great stuff! I wonder if any of the others reaches similar heights? Interestingly this platter - IMO (one of) her best - didn`t make it to this series (last time reissued in Japan 2008)..... That, too .... got the "domestic" version used a while ago - definitely one of her best! How would it be presented in Japan, three volumes? and the John Lewis ones, especially: Those are of course not "late" Lewis ... but yeah, they're very good! Of "Wonderful World" I have an old "domestic" edition and again feel absolutely no need to re-buy (at least not as long as there's so much on this list that I want to check out). Good to see these recent reissue also has the bonus tracks though! "Meditations and Excursions" is one I've got in the european version, too (also "The Golden Stryker" and "Essence" and "Jazz Abstractions", and plenty of early Bags), it's indeed gorgeous!

discs 1 and 2 last night - good! And Gavin's liners as usual are a treat, too! now back to the Crusaders, made it to disc 3 yesterday, so it's discs 4-6 now.