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Bill, thanks for the kind words! I was very surprised how much fun it was putting this together. Even if most of the tracks are not of interest to folks here, there is a chance someone will like something I have chosen since they are jazz fans of course! My friends don't get jazz, to say the least. Everything I like=cartoon music to their rock only ears. I worked at borders for years, and between getting 25% off, plus $30 a month "book" credit(Which I never used for books, I can proudly say! ) I was able to buy a fair bit if stuff, without breaking the bank. And spending lots of time on breaks, and after work looking thru every jazz cd in stock, I was able to find a lot of stuff that wouldn't show up in many catalogs or would be noticed by a lot of people who didn't have the chance to check our stock every day....My how times have changed in the last decade! Now it sounds like Borders is your greatest hits only resource. And yes, I like the sound of typing keys, clearly! And sorry about having so many LP's stolen! You are a better man than me, I'd likely go on a killing spree if that happened to me. Since quotes are limited for some reason., bold for your comments. Red for mine. 1. This sounds like Django Reinhardt on electric guitar and I'd place this in the mid to late 1940s, probably recorded in Paris. I'd guess that it is Hubert Rostaing on clarinet. The piano sounds like it might be Stephane Grappelli, and I believe that he also plays violin here. The vibes threw me! At first I thought maybe Red Norvo, but now I'm not so sure. It could be Roger Chomer, whom I've never heard, but he played with Django around this time. On the tried-and-true Downbeat five-star scale I'd give this one three-and-a-half. I like this a lot. Every time I hear this song, I think Django, but honest, it's isn't! Earlier as well 2. My bet is that this is Adrian Rollini, probably from the late 1920s. This is a truly bizarre track! I like it but am somewhat baffled. This sucker is avant-garde for sure. The opening and closing sounds, which may or may not be a bass saxophone, remind me of Lester Bowie of all people. There are parts of this that sound a little like the early Duke Ellington band, but I don't think that it's him. This is a very, very nice trumpet solo. I can't really put my finger on whom it might be. Henry "Red" Allen? Three stars mainly on the strength of the trumpet solo and the oddball open and close. You are close with the Duke comments! 3. Duke Ellington from the early to mid 1930s. Definitely low on the scale when it comes to the Duke. Not terribly memorable. Toward the ending it sounds very unfocused. One-and-a-half stars. Later, and not Duke! Though Duke sure had issues ending tracks at times. 4. Ray McKinley, probably with Will Bradley and Freddie Slack on piano. No "Down the Road Apiece" but semi-okay. Circa 1939-1940. Two stars. Nope! 5. A small combo in the transition from swing to bop. 1940s. Damn! This sounds familiar… I should know who the pianist is. Dodo Marmarosa? Could it be Bill Harris on trombone? Gene Ammons on tenor I think. A solid four-and-a-half stars. Not Dodo(Stupidly, I was looking online to see who it was, then I remembered that I wrote all that info down while recording the tracks! ) Right On Bill Harris! Not Gene Ammons. 6. Django Reinhardt again. 1930s. The guitar playing is nice but the rest of this is seriously hokey. There's an outside possibility it might be Oscar Aleman, who sometimes sounded uncannily like Django. One star. Not Django, and earlier, which might explain the Hockeyness to your ears a bit. Not Oscar Aleman either. 7. A very tacky "Tea for Two." Probably early 1940s. The pianist sounds almost Tatum-esque but less harmonically adventurous and way too prolix for my taste. Gimmicky. One-half star. Oh well, can't win 'em all! Guy had small hands for a pianist..... 8. This rocks! Great stuff! I'd say it's the Jimmie Lunceford orchestra in the 1930s with Joe Thomas the tenor soloist. Four stars. I love it too, pure energy! Not Lunceford, not the 30's, and not Joe Thomas. 9. Some super-tight ensembles here. A well-oiled machine for sure. Benny Goodman just before he hit it big and likely a Fletcher Henderson arrangement. Three stars. Wrong on Goodman, but most likely right on the arranger(Tired, need to go to bed, will check tomorrow and see if arranger mentioned) 10. I'd say that this is the same group as #9. A considerably less successful effort though. The drumming is truly annoying toward the end. One star Not Goodman, or mystery band! Earlier than you might think as well. Funny, I love the drumming/bass combo(At least that's how it sounds to my ears) 11. Duke Ellington early 1930s. The two trumpet soloists are superb! Four stars. Not Ellington, and later...I didn't want this to be too easy, or too boring! I agree about the soloists....would drive some folks up the wall though. Heck, Alex didn't like it much!(Though I liked his review!) 12. I have absolutely no idea of who this is. Wait, maybe Ray McKinley again… The drumming is great. I'd guess that this was recorded around 1930. Three stars. Not McKinley. And later in the decade. 13. I'd say that this is Django again from the 1940s. Sounds like steel guitar in here; never knew he recorded with steel in the band. After a couple more listens it appears that he's getting that steel-ish sound from a regular hollow-body electric. Three-and-a-half stars. Not Django. Is from the 40's. 14. Maybe Bennie Moten? This reminds me of how much more advanced trumpeters, trombonists and clarinetists were than the saxophonists in those days. Late 1920s? Early 1930s? Two-and-a-half stars. Not Moten, but a good guess! Late 20's. When I first got into jazz, I was lead to believe there were few guys who could really play brass or reed instruments. It seemed like from what I read, only Armstrong, Hawkins, Biederbecke, and Bechet knew what they were doing...but, ears don't lie! 15. This sounds like the same band as #14. This is one hell of a trumpet solo. Three-and-half stars mostly on the strength of the trumpet. Still not Moten, but it is a great solo, I won't argue!!! 16. I have no idea who this is. It's a cool arrangement. Could it possibly be McKinney's Cotton Pickers? Early 1930s. Three stars. Not the Cotton Pickers...right on for the timeframe. 17. Id say that this is Artie Shaw from the 1940s. Excellent drumming! Three stars. Not Shaw, but great drumming, by a guy I have never heard of.... 18. Fletcher Henderson with a young Coleman Hawkins is my guess. Late 1920s or early 1930s. Two-and-a-half stars. Not Fletcher(Though no doubt some of the guys played with him) and not Hawkins, but no doubt influenced by him. Mid 30s' 19. This one is fun. And more than a little odd. Hawaiian vocals and guitar? Hmmmm… There's some very pretty trumpet playing but I can't identify the player. Pops in a mellow mood? Two-and-a-half stars. Three for the trumpeter. Can't say I have heard a lot of Hawaiian vocals with jazz(y) trumpet. Not Pops. A guy producer Michael Brooks said was the most underrated Jazz musician of the 20th Century! Now, I don't know if I would say that, but then again, I haven't heard a whole lot of his music. He was on hundreds of recordings, and there isn't a single cd of his music out there!!! 20. No idea! 1920s. Two stars. A bit later on, mid 30's!

Thom, I think I know why listening to this was so laborious, you just listened to disc 2 first! Seriously! There's no trumpet on track one, disc one...some of the other comments I double checked, and don't jibe with the tracks on disc 1. Fit disc 2 though. A couple of real quick comments on disc 2.... Not an Alto, which may be why you are not crazy about it....you don't hear a lot of this instrument these days..... Not a reed player, so gotta ask, what exactly is scoopiness? Hey, I figure even if only one track interests fans of newer jazz, I've succeeded! I will not do well at all the next BFT, but I will give it a try... Not Basie , sure sounds like him though! Ok, will comment further on your comments when a thread is started for disc 2!

That was fast! Much faster than Newbury Comics and Caiman USA! Well, don't think it only happens overseas! I ordered a Frankie Trumbauer Classics cd on Amazon from Caiman. No one else even had a copy, so I assumed the data was old...It took a full month after ordering, but they did at least have it!

That was fast!

Thanks for the info Niko...never heard of it before....

Whoa there Alex! Some good guesses, but I'll create a different thread for disc two a little later.(You may notice Dan reminded me to do this at the top of this thread, since I first posted this just as BFT #56) It would be too confusing to know who was talking about which disc and all that....If you can, just copy those answers down ( save in an email, or word program) and delete that post if you can. If you can't, it's won't be a problem....Thanks!

Dan, I think the Mets pitching is going to be quite good if Pedro is healthy....but the rest of the team is quite fragile....I think the braves have better hitters in left, right, at 1st base, catcher and possibly at 2nd as well. Braves pitching is much better as well. Only 2 good starters last year, now IF Hampton can stay healthy, we have 5 solid guys in Smoltz,(Yeah, each year I think he will be done, but until it happens, still the ace) Hudson, Glavine, and Jair Jurrens(Who looks to be the real deal at 22) We even have some depth with supposed top prospect Jo-Jo Reyes(Tosses too soft for my tastes) and a guy off the scrap heap Jeff Bennett, who would make a good number 5 as well now that he is further down the road from elbow surgery. Anyway, my picks to be laughed at down the road... NL Braves Cubs, Dodgers(Just a guess, anybody but the Giants could win it) WC, Phillies AL Red Sox Tigers Mariners WC-Indians NLCS-Cubs over Braves(Glavine will play the role of Charlie Leibrandt-only not in the WS) ALCS-Red Sox over Tigers WS Cubbies over Red Sox!

Funny, I just double checked, and I see 26, not 27 tracks...but, that's what King Ubu said... I think 26 is the correct number...I just put a blank disc in ,and there is only 2 minutes blank with 26 tracks(Of course, a track I thought I put on the playlist isn't there!)

Might want to stick with that first thought! Wow! Maybe it is electric, sounds like someone else's style to me...will dig around and find out(if I can)Well, seems this guy DID play electric violin! Sure didn't know(or notice) that! Learn somethin' new every day! Good ears guys! Hey, very good! I don't understand why that track isn't better known(at least I didn't have it on any of my many Ellington or sidemen discs-found it on a Compilation disc) Love the way Rex plays with that slurred or half valve style... Allmusic likes to mess with their links...sometimes I have seen the info hidden even, for some reason. I think you guys are confusing him with someone else, but perhaps not! Right on the button, era wise! Not Jacquet, very good guess on BH, since it's him! Rosco, Seems pretty darn good for someone with a mainly post war collection!

Gee, what did Dick Durbin ever do to you???

supposedly a comment from the guy.... wheres the respect...: i made this video... i do not ride like that anymore, please nobody try and do this... it is not a good idea... i have been arrested... this was over a year ago on the 91 past riverside and the second part in on the ortega highway 74 Someone below that said Pity for your parents and other people who will miss you after you get yours, but certainly no respect. I remember a seeing a guy driving like that at night in downtown Atlanta. We have HOV lanes there, with round metal bumps to keep you from switching lanes there, except in an emergency...that is where this mental midget decided to do lane changes, and wheelies! I thought for sure I was going to see him kill himself....but that kind of stupid can live quite awhile....

Thanks for chiming in first! Glad there was no middle ground! Interesting. Listened to it again, I don't think it's an electric violin, but I have been wrong before. It's also slightly older than you think. I thought it would be interesting if folks guessed what years the tracks were from! Don't hold back man, tell us how you really feel! I laughed out loud the first time I heard it, I heard in on a compilation disc, wasn't expecting it. But have grown to love the tune. Song title makes sound a bit more understandable. Not Kenton. Interesting question. Liner notes don't mention electrified bass. Sounds a bit like one though! Don't think it's as likely as you do, that the tenor player will be known...'cept for perhaps for JSngry. Not the 1950's, honest! Not Andy Kirk's Orchestra. I know what you mean about wanting to get up and dance! Track 4 made you want to get up and dance, this one has you skipping, so I can safely say you loved it, right? Thats ok. It's a bit modern for my taste as well, but I just love it for some reason. Wish everyone could hear in on my Dad's huge 50's JBL's.... that helps. It was a big decision for me to add it, since it meant less tracks on this disc. Not a slide trumpet. Don't know much about clarinets. We should all listen to more slow things, IMHO! No percussive bones as far as I know! Not a soundtrack tune either. Very close on the year. I never noticed, but yeah liner notes do mention a Soprano being played, actually two names have SS next to them. Gee??? Who knew there were limits on the number of times you can use quote boxes??? Seems silly to me, but must be in the software....henceforth, Alex will be in bold... 9. chick? it has that crispness i associate with him. no piano, or i would be tempted to think of early basie, too -- though not with those drums. Nope, not Chick Webb! 10. you can dance peabody or one-step quite nicely to this. i can't identify the bass...is that a booming tuba or a booming string bass? it's so low that i can't tell. i suspect tuba, because it's mostly playing every other Booming string bass and banjo tossed in. One of my favorite "early" tracks...takes awhile to get going, but builds up quite nicely, IMO. 11. snooze. nothing happens until the trumpet wakes us up at 1:45. but i wish he hadn't. i don't like this one. is this some white folks trying to be duke? Oh well....I do like the line that you wish he hadn't awakened! 12. hey, yeah! 1940's style boogie woogie, but sounds like it's newer; echo/reverb/something, and possibly a flute in there. i can't identify half the things the rhythm section is whacking on. *listens some more* i take it back. maybe this really is 1940's. Not newer. It is different, and from someone...wait...nevermind....I'll wait...it is different though, ain't it??? 13. gypsy swing. tatum? whoever it is was influenced by tatum. christian? or is it grimes? is that even electric? i have to listen to it more carefully on better speakers. Not Tatum, but most likely right in influenced by him....Not Christian or Grimes, but good guesses!(To be honest, not a name I know) 14. this sounds pretty familiar. late 1920's again? the solos sound like 1920's solos. i guess it could be 1950's revival, though it sounds pretty "original" to me. god, that trumpet has a clear tone! fun to listen to. Yep on the timeframe! He sure does have a clear tone, doesn't he? 15. 1935-1940. someone is drivin' that band hard. trumpet leader? bari-sax? weak guitar solo -- sounds like he was caught off-guard Right 5 year period! Yep trumpet leader, at least for these sides. Guitarist may have been caught off guard. Another guy who's name rings no bells... 16. duke? that's always a good guess. Nope. But alway a good guess, like you say. 17. must be goodman. that band has the goodman sound Right you are! 18. i feel stupid for not recognising this, because i probably have it. do i hear a trumbauer influence? well, everybody was influence by him, i guess. but i don't know who this is. anyway: good track Not Tram.... 19. what? hawai'ian? either that, or they're singing backwards. Yep, singing backwards! No, first guess was right. 20. bass player sounds like he's on ritalin. i don't like this one very much Bassist does sound focused, doesn't he? well. more question marks than statements in the above, i'm afraid. ) i'll try to do better on disc 2. Hey not bad at all Alex! I sure didnt' make it easy!

Thanks for chiming in first! Glad there was no middle ground! Interesting. Listened to it again, I don't think it's an electric violin, but I have been wrong before. It's also slightly older than you think. I thought it would be interesting if folks guessed what years the tracks were from! Don't hold back man, tell us how you really feel! I laughed out loud the first time I heard it, I heard in on a compilation disc, wasn't expecting it. But have grown to love the tune. Song title makes sound a bit more understandable. Not Kenton. Interesting question. Liner notes don't mention electrified bass. Sounds a bit like one though! Don't think it's as likely as you do, that the tenor player will be known...'cept for perhaps for JSngry. Not the 1950's, honest! Not Andy Kirk's Orchestra. I know what you mean about wanting to get up and dance! Track 4 made you want to get up and dance, this one has you skipping, so I can safely say you loved it, right? Thats ok. It's a bit modern for my taste as well, but I just love it for some reason. Wish everyone could hear in on my Dad's huge 50's JBL's.... that helps. It was a big decision for me to add it, since it meant less tracks on this disc. Not a slide trumpet. Don't know much about clarinets. We should all listen to more slow things, IMHO! No percussive bones as far as I know! Not a soundtrack tune either. Very close on the year. 9. chick? it has that crispness i associate with him. no piano, or i would be tempted to think of early basie, too -- though not with those drums. 10. you can dance peabody or one-step quite nicely to this. i can't identify the bass...is that a booming tuba or a booming string bass? it's so low that i can't tell. i suspect tuba, because it's mostly playing every other. 11. snooze. nothing happens until the trumpet wakes us up at 1:45. but i wish he hadn't. i don't like this one. is this some white folks trying to be duke? 12. hey, yeah! 1940's style boogie woogie, but sounds like it's newer; echo/reverb/something, and possibly a flute in there. i can't identify half the things the rhythm section is whacking on. *listens some more* i take it back. maybe this really is 1940's. 13. gypsy swing. tatum? whoever it is was influenced by tatum. christian? or is it grimes? is that even electric? i have to listen to it more carefully on better speakers. 14. this sounds pretty familiar. late 1920's again? the solos sound like 1920's solos. i guess it could be 1950's revival, though it sounds pretty "original" to me. god, that trumpet has a clear tone! fun to listen to. 15. 1935-1940. someone is drivin' that band hard. trumpet leader? bari-sax? weak guitar solo -- sounds like he was caught off-guard. 16. duke? that's always a good guess. 17. must be goodman. that band has the goodman sound. 18. i feel stupid for not recognising this, because i probably have it. do i hear a trumbauer influence? well, everybody was influence by him, i guess. but i don't know who this is. anyway: good track. 19. what? hawai'ian? either that, or they're singing backwards. 20. bass player sounds like he's on ritalin. i don't like this one very much. well. more question marks than statements in the above, i'm afraid. ) i'll try to do better on disc 2.

I see why you guys have held on to him, holy crap!!!

What am I, an encyclopedia??? A serious question...I don't know...I have gotten older as well. For all I know, I always vote democratic....Osama in '09!

What am I, an encyclopedia???

He told me it had teeth marks all over the buttocks. You must have lent that doll to Marv Albert before selling it to Berigan? YESSSSSSSS!

Wouldn't you think a parachute 25 years old, would be considered too old to use for safety reasons??? Bet it turns out to be from some military plane crash soon after the war...

Gee, I just googled his name to see how old he was going to be, and I saw this one!

I bought that anatomically correct Phyllis Diller Doll from you....don't you remember?

Thanks for letting me know!

Heh....I should have thought of that...but, I didn't

Better late then never! Oh, and if you all feel like it, try guessing the years the tracks were recorded!

Gee, it's the 25th already! Should a start a discussion page now??? So far, I am only mailing 3 people cds...I don't want to mess April up too much! Remember, I am a virgin here, so tell me what you want! Wait, something's not right with the way that came out. Hopefully, I didn't make it so easy the folks getting cds won't have a chance to guess on some of the tracks...

Learned about her from of all things, a MGM short they showed earlier today on Turner Classic Movies! http://www.msa.md.gov/msa/educ/exhibits/wo...ml/carroll.html