Swinging Swede

In both cases all individual albums have been out on CD in Japan. Quite a few collectors may have picked up those. That might have something to do with it.

That has already happened. Everything recorded before 1954 is now public domain outside USA. Next year it will be everything recorded before 1955 and so forth. There are already plenty of public domain releases of BN material. Monk, Bud, Miles, older stuff like Quebec, Bechet and so on. And more will come. In the US the copyright is currently 95 years (it used to be shorter) for pre-1977 recordings, and artist's life + 70 years for post-1976 recordings. That means that recordings made before 1909 now are in in the public domain even in the US. No jazz recordings had been made at that time, but in less than a decade the early ODJB sides will be PD in the US...

Jack Wilson recorded a tune called Soulin' for Blue Note in 1969. It remains unissued so we may never know whether it's the same (although I suppose MC has heard it).

'"I'm sorry. I'm disappointed," Tyson told trainer Freddie Roach.' I guess Tyson came down to earth...

Yanow doesn't exactly pan this album: The 1957 Horace Silver Quintet (featuring trumpeter Art Farmer and tenor-saxophonist Hank Mobley) is in top form on this date, particularly on "My One and Only Love" and their famous version of "Home Cookin'." All of Silver's Blue Note quintet recordings are consistently superb and swinging and, although not essential, this is a very enjoyable set. ~ Scott Yanow, All Music Guide

Yes! Those recordings were originally released on two LPs titled Live Echoes of the Swinging Bands and More Live Echoes of the Swinging Bands. They were reissued on CD in 1993 with original cover art and liner notes in an excellent but now defunct German reissue series called RCA Victor Jazz Classics. Charlie Shirley (who's that?) is listed as arranger. I remember them as pleasant, but I haven't listened to them in a long while now.

Yes, what a hoot those covers were! Aric expressed concern that he was going bald, and then Kevin W posted all those covers! Brings back memories from the good old BNBB days... But I think one Aric cover is missing on that AAJ thread, so...

Sure, but if a player is designed in compliance with all existing standards, is it then correct to say that it is causing the non-playability? The way I saw it when wolff asked, and the way I still see it, it just isn’t. But language is a fuzzy instrument sometimes (especially when it’s foreign), so maybe we just interpreted the words differently. I don’t think we view these matters very differently really. Agreed 100%. Buying this format means supporting it, which I can’t see why any consumer in his right mind would want to do. It’s one thing when a new format is introduced, which is better in some aspects than the older, like SACD and DVD-A. But Cactus discs offer no advantages whatsoever for the consumer compared with CDs, but plenty of disadvantages, and serious ones at that. Here is a revealing post a guy posted on the Steve Hoffman board: Yikes. Not a format I would want to support.

Exactly.

Really? That baffles me. It’s one thing when big labels, for whom pop is the main priority, panic and slap copy protection on their releases, and as a consequence it affects their jazz releases too, since they lump jazz together with pop. But Fresh Sound is not the kind of label one would expect to make this move. This can only hurt sales for them. By the way, I checked some recent FSNT releases on amazon.de, and saw no mention of “Kopiergeschützt” there (at least not yet). As I’ve understood it, that must be indicated in Germany.

Well, different players certainly handle these discs differently, but since wolff’s question was what causes the “possible inability to play”, I don't think it’s fair to blame hardware that is designed in accordance with existing standards and plays Red Book CDs flawlessly. The blame, IMHO, must be put squarely on the disc that deviates from the established standards. Standards and adherence to them is the only thing that can guarantee 100% compatibility between hardware and software, and the one who deviates from them is the one who must be blamed for causing the non-playability.

There are no changes ocurring with CDs. The CD standard still is the same as it has been since the early 80s and works fine as you say, guaranteeing 100% playability on all CD players. What has happened is that some record companies have put out discs of other formats (not CDs). As a Philips spokesperson said: "Any changes that put a disc outside the CD standard result in a disc that should no longer be described or marketed as a CD.” [...] ”We've made sure they would put a very clear warning that you're not buying a compact disc, but something different. We've been warning some labels to begin with, and they've adjusted their behaviour. That means labels would also be barred from using the familiar "compact disc" logo that has been stamped on every CD since Philips and Sony jointly developed the technology in 1978.” The answer is yes, if by software you are referring to the discs. And there have indeed been reports about copy-protected discs causing damage to playback equipment (as alluded to in the warning). That is because non-standard discs with intentionally bad data may cause behaviour patterns that the equipment isn’t designed to handle. I also would like to point out that copyright protection and copy protection are two different things. A release may not be copyright-protected but still be copy-protected, and vice versa. The recent RVG of Horace Silver Trio is a case in point: Outside the US the copyright of these 1952-53 recordings has expired, but the RVG is copy-protected. In the US the recordings are still copyright-protected, but there the RVG isn’t copy-protected. Go figure.

LOL! Thanks for explaining!

Thanks, Michael. The coloured text is from the Fresh Sound site. The Disconforme site also says it's three complete albums on one CD (which is impossible of course).

Dusty Groove has this listed in its Upcoming Releases section: Bobby Hutcherson -- Bobby Hutcherson -- The Al Grey & Dave Burns Sessions . . . CD . . . Mid-July, 2004 Looks like it could be one of those European-type boots (Ocium, Definitive, Blue Moon etc.). Some other interesting things there along the same lines. It’s on Lone Hill Jazz. Never Previously released on CD. 3 Albums on 1 CD. This edition contains three complete albums: - Al Grey´s "Night Song" (Argo LP-711) - Al Grey´s "Having A Ball" (Argo LP-718) - Al Grey´s "Sanp Your Fingers" (Argo LP-700) Tracklisting: 1. Blues in the Night 2. Stella by Starlight 3. The Way You Look Tonight 4. Through for the Night 5. Stardust 6. Night and Day 7. Laughing Tonight 8. Nothing But The Night 9. Three-Fourths Blues 10. Just Waiting 11. R.B.Q. 12. Green Dolphin Street 13. Deep Friend 14. Something's Got a Hold on Me 15. I Don't Want to Cry 16. Stand By Me 17. Boss Tina 18. Stone Crazy Total Time: 79:29 Recorded in Chicago and New York, 1962-63 I can’t see how three 12” LPs can fit on one CD. Maybe it’s only the tracks on which Hutcherson played or something like that.

George Lewis

Clarence Williams

Wardell Gray, according to the new and improved AMG.

Cool. How far did the Dorsey series go? He recorded for Victor until 1950.

I will get at least Stride Right and Undiluted. Both are new to CD as far as I know.

I remember this series. I only picked up a few of them, since I already had most of the material either on Classics or on earlier RCA CD sets (Waller and Bechet come to mind). There were some CD sets in that series that were new releases and not reissues of previous LP sets. One of them was a terrific Joe Newman double CD that included four original RCA LPs from the mid-50s. I think the Oscar Peterson set was new too. The drawback of this series was that the straight reissue of the original double LPs meant that the increased playing time of the CD format wasn’t utilized. Thus the releases of 78 era material only included about 16 tracks on each CD, when 50% more easily could have fitted on a CD. Also, the original series wasn’t completed. RCA had a tendency in the LP era to start complete reissue series of Tommy Dorsey and other artists with large catalogues, but after a few volumes they would run out of steam and the series would be abandoned, and thus the later years never were reached. Of course reissuing the complete TD is a mammoth task. Classics has released no less than 14 Tommy Dorsey CDs, and yet they have only reached 1939…

Hey, where's Frank Marshall? He's my favourite Marshall!

Just goes to show again that EMI views its paying customers as criminals. What a great customer relationship they are building.

It's always cruel to lose in a penalty shoot-out, but only one team can go through, and they must be separated somehow of course. Holland had more posession of the ball, but I think Sweden had just as many dangerous chances. In the second half of the extra time Sweden had one shot that hit the bar and one that hit the post. I think the match could have gone either way, but congratulations to the Dutch, who have had many painful penalty shoot-outs. The match tonight could be very good. Czechia has been the most impressive team so far, and Denmark is very solid, and difficult to beat. They impressed me against Sweden. The Danes have several injured players though, so this could present a problem.

0-0 after the first half. Noteworthy: Sweden has made 7 of its 8 goals in the second half.