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Only once that I'm aware of - iirc, a British magazine refused to review our cd after someone on the board had written negative comments about said mag. We sort of shrugged that one off; for one thing, the comments were not wholly inaccurate. So, you guys aren't Gig Whores who are willing to kiss any kind of ass to get any kind of gig? I knew you was my type of peoples!

I am asking myself the same questions. As are a lot of us... I'm just trying to get a handle on the irritant here. Is it "thread drift"? Well, that's always been one fo the distinguishing features here, and a major "love point" for me personally. Is it how somebody will interrupt a lovefest for a certain artist with negative firsthand recollections that take some of the rosecolor off the glasses? Well, ok, I can kinda see how that might be upsetting to people who want their heroes to be HEROES, but otoh, reality is what it is, and I for one don't see why your heroes can't also be assholes and/or otherwise failed human beings. Now, if it's a combination of those two things, well, I can kinda see that just a little more, but only just a little. I can understand all this being a bit of a personal irritant, but hell, LTB has some habits that I'd rather she not have. But it's who she is, and they're all things that are such that wahtever it would take to get her to change them would involve altering her natural essence, and I don't even want to do that. Not all habits are like that, but those are. So really, I just don't get why it's "ruining" the board. I really don't.

You gotta remember that a lot of those "takes" are going to be false starts, breakdowns, etc. But there's definitely more in the vaults than what's come out so far. Question is, is it "marketable" to any mot the most fetishistic? Probably not.

I'm a thinker, not a doer. Although, come to think of it, I'll have a Dewars!

Just doing my part to bring focus to an issue sorely in need of one. Or not. I'm not a fan of getting in line, remember... Chris makes a throwaway line about a MOR pianist, Chuck tosses in an equally throwaway aside, and all of a sudden the board is being "ruined" yet again. I just don't see it. Perhaps I am an insensitive jerk. Could be. Or perhaps I just recognize that as part an parcel of the way that people interact and don't even bother blinking about it. Could be. But if all it takes to "ruin" this board is something like a really offhand reference to Peter Nero/Bernie Nierow then I gotta think there's other issues afloat that have nothing to do with the board per se and everything to do with "personal preferences".

Did they find the ashes of his fiddle? Now that's news! But if so, why isn't this in another subforum. Imean, a biurnt fiddle can't play, and that is a problem, but I'm not sure if unplayability of an instrument that no longer exists constitues the basis for an "audio" thread. You guys are right - this is all too complicated and vexatious. Can't we all just talk about our favorite records instead?

I ordered four - one for here, one for there, one for now, and one for then. By linking them together, I hope to have all the bases covered, but just in case, I think I'll order four more as backups.

And I hear the Miles/Get Up With It vibe there as well! That Miles stuff continues to permeate, it does...

Did somebody say Gene Perez?

Very cool. My man can shake a leg! Gave it a couple more listens ... at first I didn't think so highly of some of the sonic choices being made - synth bass and all that. But man, there is some BAD shit happening in that tune, especially going into and including the section with the "da da dee da" vocal line (would still like to hear a tight band with say Gene Perez on bass doin' it). Do they have other stuff this good? Oh, the synth bass thing I've made my peace with a long time ago, so long as it's "of a piece" with the overall groove as it is here. But yeah, Gene Perez on this would be a gas. Gene Perez on damn near anything is a gas! Jazzanova, hey, yeah, those guys got it goin' on. The have one full-length album that I know of, and it's good but not great (and it contains that song from the YouTube clip). Their real strength has been in doing remixes, some really killer stuff there. I'd recommend these (both available from D.G. Bastard & Suns):

That's an issue I've been contemplating from the git-go, and I'm not so sure but that rather than being on top of the beat, it's maybe a sign of the (new) times that the place where the beat "is" has now tightened up to better facilitate finding all the places in-between it. Really, after some of JB's more radical grooves, if you're going to continue to play that game of perpetual/infinite bounce, the only way to do it is to "tighten up". Maybe. But I think that's what's going on, and it doesn't make me uncomfortable, at least not when I can still find and feel and get inside a pocket.

Or else it's maybe "Duke was into some stuff that is generally not acknowledged/confronted by a lot of his fans, who tend to think of "jazz piano" within certain parameters, parameters which Duke himself hardly ever observed, "impressions" to the contrary". Or maybe not. Hey, I dig Flanagan, et al, really I do, no attempts here to disparage or otherwise undervalue the special and real art/craft of what he does. Same for others in that same game. Plenty love and full respect here. But... When I die, I want the aural representation of my life to more resemble Ellington than Flanagan, and by no small margin.

Cool song (check out the harmonies that keep threatening to escape reality at any second ), cool dance:

Bugz is a live band (of varying size) as well as a DJ crew: Tell em you don't hear at least a little bit of Get Up With It-era Miles in the vibe of this stuff...

Sounds great to me! Bugz is quite the crew, individually & collectively!

The more casually you listen, the more monotonous it becomes...

Bugz In The Attic soundcheck: http://youtube.com/watch?v=uzVUp-Uz3Uo

NOT beautiful is beautiful too, if one can go for the yin/yang dualtiy=la arger unity thing. But if not, hey, then NOT beautiful it is, and agreed 100%.

Masterpieces was a real mind fuck for me the first time I heard it, and it still is. Those charts just....go places, marvellously unexpected places. Interestingly, it was originally released as a green-label Columbia Masterworks (i.e. - "classical") album! Of the choices offered, it was a close second to ...Blanton.

It's in Eb like an alto, but deep like a tenor. You'd be surprised how many "foo-foo" alto players sound like real men on bari. But that Eb thing...that's weird. It's a Bb & C world, and everybody else is just living in it. But the ones who strike hard in Eb strike REALLY hard, so maybe it's a trap that'll either fuck you up or set you all the way free, I don't know. But Eb....man...I can't think right in Eb.

The thing I liked about Pepper was that he always had this slyness in his pocket, this way of playing subtle rhythmic and articulational games with his line that sounded like he was winking at something, although what it was, hey, you tell me. But that Transition date w/Trane, I swear it sounds to me like he's kinda playing Trane's phraseology back at him, not to be a smartass or anything, but just as a grin. Not many people would come at Trane with the idea of grinning, if you know what I mean. So yeah, Winks & Grins Adams, why not? And let's not forget about his skills as a section player either. Bari is crucial, because that's the base from which the rest of the sections pitches/overtones will contend with as the fundamental in terms of blend. Everybody talks about great lead altoists, and they should, but trust me, I don't care how good the rest of the section is, if you got a pussy bari player, it's gonna sound weak, no matter what. And look at who used Pepper in their sections - quite a list, to be sure, and if he didn't have a monopoly on the section NYC work in the 60s, what he got was nothing to be shy about either. Whole 'nother set of skills than soloing, but hey, let's look at the total talent, eh? His only real equal would be Carney, and that's a totally different thing, different ways of doing the same thing, and just for longevity and majesty of context, I'll give Carney the nod as a section player. But who cares? Not sure about this "greatest" stuff. What's the prize and when does it get delivered? Do dead folk really care? And do the live folk really need it? The cat was a bad mofo, though, that's for sure.

Y'all still talkin' 'bout Jackson? Ok...I was trying to see if I could find the picture/painting from Rock Dreams of Tina Turner ironing and housewifeing, so I googled ""Tina Turner" ironing", and got these results, which suprised me, to say the least: http://images.google.com/images?q=%22tina+...tart=0&sa=N Go figure.

Indeed!

So it's not just my imagination then?

All the best to Brownie, he'll be missed for sure, and his BFT assistance involving getting something to where it needed to go was both "above and beyond" as well as a little awe-inspiring for a basically "local" American. Enjoy life!