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I was 24 when Freak Out was issued. Am I disqualified? Frank was a bit older - was he pandering to teens? ← Disqualified, no. Overqualified, maybe. The point that whoever said that was trying to make, I think, was that Zappa's music, almost all of it, is rooted in a bird-flipping type mentality that's never going to be able to chill out and enjoy the pleasures of "normalacy", if only in passing, and that's an attitude best accomodated by the adolescent and still freshly young adult. Not sure that I totally agree, but I certainly don't disagree.

The Verve & Bizzare stuff is still what I like best, but keep in mind that I've come to believe what somebody once said - that the Zappa you hear in your adolescence is that which you end up liking the most as an adult.

In a word...no.

← u beet me 2 it!

Nope, just my bad.

Used to have this as Two Tenors, a Prestige reissue of the album undeer Trane's name, and IIRC, yes, that's the order. But ti's been a LONG time since I had that LP.

OK, I'll await the answers to find out more....! I can think of a few names who'd fit the bill loosely (e.g. Roger Kellaway, Mel Powell....) but nothing that strikes me Two good, but incorrect, guesses, although one leads you closer to the answer than the other...

Lots of positive response to the guitarist on Track 6, but who is it, y'all? (And no fair using Brownie's link! ) It's definitely not an obscure name! I was hoping that Jim R would get it, but no...Maybe Joeganissimo will pick up on him?

Not really. Both discs are just the result of a stream-of-conscousness mix done over the course of about 12 hours one day. A fre alterations made afterwards, but this is pretty much how it was pulled and recorded. If it's sax-o-centric, I guess it's because I'm a tenorist myself, so my natural inclinations lean that way, I suppose.

Omegod! Did not notice Impulse had botched its reissue releases! That link to the CD was wrong (did not check with the original vinyls). Here is another link to the title of the original LP's title. Everybody I have the vinyls but did not check to the links to verify the CD contents. The label did too many changes over the original programs. I see the Time tune you included is now on a different reissue CD ← Hate to tell you this, but that's not it either...

We're narrowing 100% reception. Jim Dye's people probably still haven't gotten theirs yet, haven't heard from indigo in Taiwan, and our two Eastern European participants seem to be awauting delivery.

Does the rest of the album have this same sound or is this cut an aberration? I'll try to get my comments on disc #1 posted tomorrow. ← The whole album is an abberation, actually...

Oh yeah, listening with the accompaniment of a leaf-blower is entirely optional!

The love for Track 9 continues to grow! A lot of "I'd have never guessed it was Cannonball if I didn't know upfront it was him", which is why I included it. But more about that when the answers get posted. Still no ID of Track 3, but I'm sure it's jsut a matter of time (as it is for the beloved Track 9 ) VERY interesting to read the guesses/comments on Track 6 (none of which are even remotely correct ). Keep'em comin'! Joh B hit on something very interesting re: Track 11, something that I also noticed when pulling this album out for this compilation. But no, this cut actually predates IASW, and Zawinul is nowhere in sight! As with Disc one, reading the comments is very enjoyable. Glad that mich of the music is proving to be, in various turns, enjoyable, challenging, and unfamiliar. Some good detective work done so far as well. Looking forward to reading more posts!

I take you mean that it's formal contemporary classical music? ← Not quite an apt analogy on my part, I'm afraid. What I meant to imply was that this is a work by somebody who was thoroughly grounded in 20th Century "classical" music, and who brought that grounding to their work in other arenas, although never as strongly as on this piece.

Very much enjoying reading these comments! Brownie, your link for Track 11 is to an album of which I'm totally unaware, so I'm guessing that what I've included is a different version of the tune by the same artist. Now you've got me curious about that other album! Same with Track 15 - your link is not to the LP from which I took the cut. But in this case, we're talking a technicality of CD vs LP programming. Still, if anybody can link to the original LP source for this cut, it'll getcha BONUS POINTS! Still no ID of the second saxophonist on Track 4, not even slightly. Listen closer, folks, it's a player who is not unfamiliar to many of you, although hearing him in this type of setting might well be. And the trombonist is not Clifton Anderson! I'm thinking that stereojack might be able to nail Track 5, which is one of those things that if you don't have, or have heard of, the album it's off of, you'll never guess who it is. And even then, you'll most likely not know who it is! Track 12 continues to tantalize, it seems. Let me just say if you set aside various preconceptions and think "logically", the two principal performers will come to you easily. Yes, it's them! Now, finding it on AMG is going to be another kettle of fish altogether... Lime I said, very much digging reading everybody's thoughts on these, and some great detective work's been done so far. Equally looking forward to the comments of other recipients, and any/all follow-up posts by those who've already posted.

Yeah, it's good stuff. More than a few "populist" moments, but no harm done, as they're coming from the side of the music instead of the marketplace. Certainly not Natural Essence, but unless you're a purist, I think you'll get your money's worth, and maybe a little more.

As I recall, it received poor reviews at the time, so I avoided it. I love the Columbias and the Artists House discs. I haven't kept up with more recent stuff. ← ← I own two copies (on BN cassette!), and find it to be a very good, if somewhat atypical. Laswell's production results in some very tightly focused arrangements, and the whole thing has his "sound" to it. There's also more vocals than had been the norm for Ulmer up to that point, ahich I think is why it left some critics cold back then. The album is a lot tighter than most of Ulmer's work before or since, and what it loses in openness, it gains in specificity. Not at all bad, just different, and perhaps it hit the market at a time before audiences were ready for something like that from Ulmer. As for the Columbia albums, hell yeah! I really dig Odyssey in particular. A harmolodic hoedown!

Glad to hear that it made it! You can repay me with your participation. That'll be more than adequate. And you're welcome. My pleasure!

You would guess wrong! BTW - if you want a copy of the discs, it can be arranged...

Freddie Keppard Jimmy Knepper Hildegard Knef

Only two or three? Surely you jest!

That's some cool shit, man. Thanks for posting that!

I emailed redoctopus for directions and they responded promptly, thouroghly, and effectively. Here's their directions. Note that they might need to know your country in advance. An email should take care of that.

As for Track 11, the closer, nah, didn't really have a reason, other than as a goof and that I like the way it ends the disc. Old hippies don't die, they just resort to studio gimmickry, doncha' know! But I can tell you this - if you aren't familiar the original album, you'll most likely never guess who it is.