Shrdlu

I can give an immediate explanation. No problem. God distinguishes between nations and individuals when it comes to sin and the punishment thereof. There is also a distinction between the penalty after death administered to each individual, and a penalty on earth imposed on a person - which might be made to carry over to his descendants, for certain crimes/sins. Each individual must bear the punishment, after his death, for his own sin, unless he got saved while still on earth by accepting Jesus as Saviour, of course. Thus (Ezekiel 18:20) the son does not bear the punishment for his Dad's sin: namely being judged as an individual after death and cast into the lake of fire, preceded by a spell in hell. No-one will ever be sent to hell and the lake of fire for another's sins. Then, the scripture in Deuteronomy 24:16 says that no-one is given the earthly death penalty by the country's authorities for a crime committed by another. And we know that no-one ever is (at least, not in a just society). When it comes to nations, God says, in those Exodus verses, that his punishment of the nation in question will sometimes carry on for several generations. Thus, people born later will suffer because of what their ancestors have done. (It's a bit like the comment that rain falls on the just and the unjust.) This suffering is only on earth, not after death. So there is a big difference between the two types of punishment. An example of the national judgment is the Jews in captivity in Babylon, living in a foreign land under the control of the Chaldeans. These Jews had children who were born in captivity, and these children suffered because of the earlier sins of the fathers, even though they were not personally to blame. Another, contemporary, example would be a child born in an impoverished country that is suffering from prolonged drought. God has brought on the drought as a judgment on that nation for its evil false religions (that's why it happens), but the new-born child is not individually to blame, at least, not at first. Another point about this punshment for several generations is that God, being God, knows what each of us will do in the future. Thus, if an individual, or nation, is going to be only evil in the future, then God sometimes makes them suffer right from birth. So, you see, there is a logical explanation of these apparently contradictory scriptures. If one approaches the Bible with a humble heart, not looking for errors, then an explanation will be found. Sometimes the answer is not easy to find, but one can ask God to reveal the answer. When I first saw that king who was 22 and 42 at the same time (!!), I did not know the explanation. But I did not think there was an error. I just wanted to know how this could be explained. I asked my then pastor, who did not know the answer at first. But he did find me an answer, and I will post it "in a future broadcast", as Robert Stack used to say.

I figure that this, and the discussion about whether Jesus really exists, belong in this section, as they aren't political. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ You hear a lot of folks saying, "Well, you know, the Bible has lots of errors in it." When I ask them to show me one, they never can, but they stand by what they claimed. Funny thing, that. A bit like the guy who said "Well all those animals would never have fitted into that ark" and then admitted that he had no idea how big the vessel was. (It was about 450 feet long!) So, I thought I might toss out a few supposed errors and contradictions, just for a bit of fun. Some people apparently have nothing better to do than to look for mistakes in the scriptures. I once told a friend that there were supposedly some errors, and he said "If there are errors, then I am blissfully unaware of them." Them's my sentiments, but I, and other preachers, are prepared to defend the Bible against any attempts to find faults. People get all excited when they think they've found an error. What they don't realize is that God has written that book in such a way that an attacker can break his neck over it if he chooses to do so. I sincerely hope that you won't. Now, English is my mother tongue. When I say the Bible, I mean the Authorized King James Bible. If you want to find errors in other English versions, you'll have to line up behind me, because I can produce stacks of them. I won't defend them, although some of the "errors that aren't errors" are the same in those, too. In fact, a lot of the attacks on the Bible apply to Hebrew and Greek, as well as versions in other modern-day languages, and so have nothing specifically to do with the King James Bible. The King James Bible isn't the issue here, in the main. So, here we go. I'll give three, and then give the solutions later. (Doesn't that sound patronizing, ha, ha? ) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) "Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign." (II Kings 8:26), yet "Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign." (II Cronicles 22:2) It's the same guy in both verses. (2) This one has to do with the dimensions of the "molten sea" outside Solomon's temple. II Chronicles 4:2 says "He made a molten sea of ten cubits from brim to brim, round in compass, ..., and a line of thirty cubits did compass it about." But every math student knows that the circumference of a circle is pi (about 3.14159) times the diameter, so if the diameter is 10 cubits, then the circumference would have to be about 31.4159 cubits. And God doesn't say "about ten"; he says "ten". No, I wouldn't have noticed that "error" either, but someone did. (3) "Thou shalt not kill." (Exodus 20:13), yet "To everything there is a season, ..., A time to kill." (Ecclesiastes 3:1 and 3) This one is a classic "boo boo" in the scriptures. By the way, none of these three "errors" has anything whatsoever to do with which modern-day Bible version you use; they are present in Hebrew. Later, Shrdlu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- P.S. If you want more of these puzzles, get a copy of "Problem Texts", by Peter Ruckman, which can be ordered from the Bible Baptist Bookstore in Pensacola, FL. They have a website.

Probably because those sessions aren't beyond the European 50-year copyright limit yet. Das stimmt.

Sounds like another "borrowed" mastering job. I don't know where they got them from, but the sound is excellent, Hans.

How is that album? I've been wanting to hear the non BN albums by those two. I love their several BN albums, of course. Wonderful stuff. As I understand it, there were about three albums by them under Land's name. Is that about right?

Church friends in Tampa, and in Statesville, NC, report everything O.K., praise God, but some locations had severe damage. I was real ticked off with Fox News's coverage over the last day or two. I hate that channel anyway, but tuned in briefly to find the latest. As on the Simpsons, which parodied such reporting, they were treating it all like an entertaining action movie. Pure show biz.

This is a superb collection. It was almost all released on CDs by Blue Moon in Spain, with very good sound. They left out one alternate take (the only alternate in the entire Mosaic set) and the contents of the last two sessions, from 1955, if memory serves. A friend sent me a CDr burn of the stuff that wasn't put out by Blue Moon, plus a copy of a copy of a copy of the Mosaic book - just barely readable! I don't know whether the Blue Moon CDs are still in print. That company's website isn't very user-friendly. [blue Moon also issued about 4 more CDs of Rabbit's sessions from 1937 until the first Verve session in 1951. Those are also superb, and include some soprano work by the master.]

I guess Ornette will finally be able to afford to eat, now.

That Doug Payne website has a lot of details about McFarland. Our Japanese friends are going to reissue "Soft Samba Strings" and "Today" in November, according to HMV, as well as the album with Bill Evans. I haven't heard "Today", but I really like McFarland's other two Skye albums, which are regularly sold on eBay for next to nothing (someone apparently bought a boxload of them). On eBay, I saw an LP of "Profiles", which has an excellent lineup and looks very promising. I would have snapped it up, but it was mono, and I would prefer stereo for a big band.

I did not get to hear Jamal until quite recently. I think the 50s trio stuff with guitar (Columbia and Parrot/Argo) is superb. Very rich in content. It was a shock to hear how much of "Miles Ahead" (not to mention Miles' quintet stuff) had been directly lifted from Jamal's recordings. The recording quality on those records is as lousy as the music is good, sadly. With you, Mike, I hope that un-reverbed tapes still exist. (Even worse than reverb is reverb plus fake stereo, which I came up against in my first attempt to get the "Chamber Music" LP.) The famous album with "Poinciana" also gets the Shrdlu seal of approval! Caution: watch out for "sealed" Argo LPs. I got a "sealed" copy of "Chamber Music" and it was unplayable. It had a kind of film all over the grooves. I paid a lot for it, too! I don't think I will ever buy another sealed LP; I want it to be opened so that the seller can check the state of the vinyl before I buy.

If only football (and soccer) could be pre-empted, and obliterated! I'm sure Lon would agree.

Jim, it's a long time since that happened, but maybe the play made more than one word. I don't remember now.

Re the "not much less" time: it takes time to open and set Nero, copy the original onto the hard drive, then extract the original CD, put in the CDr, tell Nero to start burning, etc. etc. And, often, I have to edit the tracks to do such things as removing minor errors or unwanted, long blank spaces, before burning. So, by the time all that is done, the burn time that is saved (about 10 minutes or so) is not a very significant factor. If I were making several burns of one original, then a faster burn time might be worth considering. The other point is that I expected there to be errors at the high speed, and I lost a blank when I made an experimental burn, so, having no real need for the high speed, I decided to stay with the tried and true. As the locomotive driver on "Back To The Future III" said to Marty and Doc, "Why in tarnation would anyone want to go at 90 mph?"

I didn't like Braith at first - sounded like a comb and paper, I thought - but I have gotten the hang of his sound, and am now a fan. I think "Blue John" made it click for me. After hearing that a few times, I went back to the BN 2 CD set (which I purchased out of a sense of obligation after they stuck their necks out and issued it in response to a lot of requests) and enjoyed that. If you don't have that, I'd recommend it. Of course, there are always the TOCJs, and there are no extra tracks on the domestic.

That's fine with me. The ax that Wes played could definitely be regarded as a baritone guitar. The point is that it was played as a guitar, and not as a bass, just as Sam Jones (it seemed to me) played the cello as a kind of higher bass, and not as a cello. I never liked Sam on that, nor did I like the sound that Wes got on that low guitar. Wes was just too good on the regular guitar.

I always burn at 4X, which is plenty fast enough for me, using Nero and an internal LG burner. It produces consistently perfect results. My son got a brand new computer that burns at 48X, or something like that. The total real time consumed in making an 80 min CDr is not much less than with the 4X burn. I only tried it once, and the resulting CDr had errors in it: the starts and ends of the (music) tracks were messed up. So, ...

I heard that Freeman was not with Dorsey much - mainly just for that one recording session that porduced those two hits.

Frivolously? Why do you say that? Well, hell is real, and awful, and not to be joked about, or used as an album or song title, unless the aim is to show people how to avoid going there. I heard yersterday about an evangelist called Carl Hatch. Before he was saved, he had a buddy who was killed when his small airplane crashed. The aircraft burst into flames on the ground and Carl heard his buddy screaming horribly. Later, he asked to see the body at the funeral home. "I wouldn't advise that", said the undertaker (the coffin was closed). But Carl insisted, so the undertaker opened the lid. He was so deeply shocked that he got saved a few days later, and is now said to be a very persuasive witness for the Lord Jesus Christ. I hope that you will also trust Jesus as Saviour. Speaking of fires, I just heard that Red Adair died. If he wasn't saved, he is now in a fire that he can't put out. As he was a Texan, he sure had the opportunity to get saved. I hope he was.

I know you are kidding, 7/4, but I'm still going to state that no place on earth is like the real hell. Have a look at Luke, Chapter 16 for starters. I guess a rough idea could be gained from one of those documentaries that show the top of an active volcano. What kind of friend would I be if I didn't warn about a place like that?

My late Dad once managed to get a word with the Q in it, hitting both a triple word score and a triple letter score - the Q was on thatta one!! I forget the score, but it was huge.

Well, that's a good question for all you posters! Certainly not a question to be considered frivolously, as the "Reverend" seems to be doing. My answer is: Heaven, and I'm not boasting, because God did all the saving and I did nothing - that's why a person can be sure about this. (If it was up to me, I would have blown it long ago.)

Thanks for posting the long discography, EKE. It would be great to hear all these, and also the airshot of "Castle Rock" with Rabbit - no doubt Trane runs rings around Al Sears (who soloed on the famous Verve original of this, for those who don't know this piece). It sounds as if we have a mini Mosaic in the making.

This might seem a corny suggestion, but make sure that you get the TD session with the famous "Marie" and "Song of India". Pop items these were, but I have heard them tons of times and they still sound fresh. (I grew up with them!) The personnel is graced by the presence of Bud Freeman - not a Dorsey regular, I think. Bud can even be heard briefly, sounding like late Trane. The symphony conductor Arturo Toscanini is said to have scolded a trombone section and told them to try to sound as good as Tommy.

Perhaps some of these recordings are covered by the above posts, but are these reasonably easily available? I've never seen them anywhere, although I have come across the Rhino set (but didn't get it as I have all but the two early tracks).

I'm pretty sure that he played only tenor with Hodges. And, frustratingly, few recordings exist with that lineup: about two tracks for Verve with no Trane solos, and I really can't even detect him in the mix.