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Thanks. I fear that I may have created the nichest joke in the history of time. Filling the landfill sites.

Thanks! I'm regretting that thread. The eternal war between The House of Powell on the one hand and the House of RadioDrakeChopins on the other.

Oh great. Been sizing this one up. It got 4.5 stars on FJB yesterday, but I wasn't sure whether that meant A or C+.

Currently got Porto Novo (1967) by Marion Brown spinning in the unlovely Arista reissue.

Now playing: The Tchicai Girls - The Tchicai Song (Touch My Bum, This is Life) (HatArt, 1996)

Pee Wee Russell - Ask Me Now (Impulse!, 1965) I’d never listened to this one before. Fascinating to heard how bassist Russell Brown slides in and out of prominence depending on the era of the tune they are playing.

Ernie Krivda and Friends - Satanic (Inner City, 1977)

Now on to this one. Lou Donaldson - Goodness Gracious! (Blue Note, 1964) It's been a while since I listened to this one. I forgot how much fun it is. John Patton keeps escaping.

Charles Gayle - Consecration (Black Saint, 1993) A bit of fire for a bank holiday morning. Always been my favourite of his records.

Oliver Nelson - Swiss Suite (Flying Dutchman, 1972)

I think that the answers to this thread are pretty clear: the reason these musicians are generally little discussed by fans of avant garde jazz is that people really aren’t that into them.

Chris Speed and Yeah No - Swell Henry (2004) A very likeable record, particularly the writing for Cuong Vu. It got big thumbs up from the youth and from my partner. Sadly, I've now been booted off the sound system and the elder one (4) has an audio book on. Is this one what it looks like?

Seems to be the Dave Douglas story.

I really enjoyed Hiljaisuus, so will check this out. I was feeling a bit oversaturated with Rempis and I've started to miss them as they come. Good to have a reminder!

Dave Douglas - Five (Soul Note, 1996)

I watched it too and really enjoyed it. There are some interviews with an organist called Shaun Brown from Tampa (I think). Has he recorded? I couldn't locate anything on Google.

Steve Coleman - Morphogenesis (Pi, 2017)

BillMcHenry - Graphic

Keith Jarrett - Whisper Not (ECM, 2000) Sat in bed with the lurgy on New Year's Day, this one is probably a bit over my level.

I think that what you just said has to be the right approach. I find it frustrating when staff on generally excellent newspapers like the NYT can't be bothered to even Wikipedia the subject that they are writing on.

Oh no!

The Wikipedia page for Disco (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disco) has a rather different version of events to Wikipedia's Demolition page. It points out that the anti disco movement had a heavy presence on the left wing and in the black community, concentrating on disco's vacuousness, lack of political critique, and corporate-seeped mediocrity. It does also point to the right wing fellow travellers, but does not suggest that they led or characterised the opposition to disco. Somewhere along the line the left wing critiques of disco have been erased and there's grown up this view that because some right wing people were among those who hated disco, opposition to disco in the late 1970s was therefore a racist thing. The idea that someone would be racist for disliking the Bee Gees in favour of Little Richard is surely wrong, absent some clear statement or action to that effect. Exhibit 1, after less than 20 seconds' googling: an article by Richard Dyer from 1979 arguing, from a gay socialist perspective, that disco really shouldn't be considered a red line for a socialist. https://www.history-of-emotions.mpg.de/texts/in-defence-of-disco

I think it's just easy / lazy journalism. Helps to raise the drama. Doesn't need to be true because hardly anyone will check.

I know three names from this mix: Chadbourne, Baker and Kaiser. Are there any records of theirs that stand out to you? Yeah. Even retrospectively, those two scenes shine out - the Coleman/Ulmer connection. Great stuff. At least those guys are fairly well known though. The more free improv artists from this era seem to be never mentioned. It's like there's the early era of Derek Bailey and Masayuki Takayanagi, then a gap, and then people start to pay attention again from the mid-80s. The Beresfords and Chadbournes are mostly still with us, and it's weird how noone talks about them.

I love this one.