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According to Futura/Marge website: FUTURA/MARGE, this one is already OOP. Gotta hunt it down fast. Pop Wine is still in print, though.

Oh-la-la - looks like Emarcy/Universal are reissuing some nice nice stuff in December, including AEoC (3 CDs!), Alan Shorter (!), Frank Wright, Braxton (2 CDs, one of them a double one!), Lacy, Waldron, Rudd, Bley, Shepp, Thornton.... whew! What the fuck is going on at Universal?!?! Looks like a coup d'etat happened, and some irrisponsible free jazz guerrilla fighters seized the power! Here is the list from amazon.de (skip the first vynil items in the list): http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/search-ha...2835388-2126158 OK, so the search link does not work. Then, you can find it yourself plugging emarcy is the search for, and then choosing Erscheinungsdatum: Neue zuerst in Ordnen nach list. These upcoming reissues will be on the top. A related jazzcorner thread: http://jazzcornertalk.com/speakeasy/showthread.php?t=8011

Glad you enjoyed it! "Pure" is a good word to desibe it. I listen to this disc quite often, and it never fails to amaze me. It's a shame we won't hear any new material from this duo. ------------------------------------------------------- I've been listening a bit mor to Braxton's 23 Standards, and my initial negative impression only deepens. As I said, Braxton seems to me repeating the same same ideas in his solos (thus the solos sound twice long than they should be), and his sound is flat and colorless. His playing on soprano (or is it sopranino) saxophone is shockingly close to embarassing on some tracks. [being annoyed this much by Braxton's playoing here, I thought I might be in some anti-Braxton stage, so I pulled out Solo (Milano) 1979 (Leo) as a benchmark... and found it truly brilliant! - with more ideas in each track than I heard in a discfull of standards and with a beatiful and controllled sound. So I do like Braxton!]. Moreover, the troubles with 23 Standards do not end with Braxton. Rythm section is EXTREMELY BORING. I am not sure why mainstream (and rythm section plays as mainstream as you can imagine) should be boring, but this is the way they play it here. Competent, but totally uneventful. This is exacerbate by very prominent bass in the mix, and unless you like to hear endless (since the tracks are so fucking long!) standard changes repeated, you might feel it is slightly repetative. Bass and drums solos are equally bland. The most interesting aspect of 23 Standards is Kevin O'Neal's guitar playing, but after some time you his trikcs also become somewhat predictable (I think this might stem fro mthe metronome rythm section "support" - you have to be a very imaginative and optimistic musician to be inspired for cretive soloing with such backing), and his solos also are a bit excesive in length. I still have two more CDs to go, so I can find something of interest in the set - so far I haven't.

Jaky Byard OJCs would also qualify, I guess. Simon Nabatov trio trio on hatOLOGy (forgot the title) should work OK also. And Matthew SHipp trio, also on hatOLOGY - "Multiplicaiton Table" - is a fine trio date- and fairly swinging.

Get it, it's very good. Not too "out", but more so than Curson's 60s stuff (also good). And Marge CDs from late 90s tend to go OOP these days (this one might be already OOP, actually).

What's the label? I like Butcher a lot, but can't catch up with his output (and he put out a lot of stuff - and everything I've heard was good - amazing consistency).

No, it's a different session from 2003.

I have a feeling that someone will. Meanwhile, I will elaborate a bit on differences between Live at Nefertiti (Ayler) and Noise of Wings (Slask). So this is the same trio of Brötzman (reeeds), Uuskyla (drums), Friis-Nielsen (bass guitar), with Noise... being recorded one day later than Ayler live date date in the studio. To begin with, I really enjoy both, and would highly recommend both to anybody interested in imporovised music in general, and Peter Brötzmann in particular. However, between the two I would give a slight edge to Noise.... On Nefertiti... there are several tracks where Brötzmann seems to be stuck without ideas and just does a bit of an ornamental playing (well, hmmm... "ornamental" in a Brötzm. way) - this is particullarly true for his taragoto and clarinet playing. Also, there are moments where he sounds just... lazy: that is, there is still this beautiful hoarse sound, but it dose not have that underlying energy to it - and I do not like it too much this way. Noise... on the onther hand is all no-nonsense - with Brötzmann totally focused. He sounds just superb on this one (and studio sound is excellent - more rich than (good) concert recording of Nefertiti...), with more nuance and attention to detail in his playing than on Nefertiti..., IMO. It is equally diverse, with some pretty lyrical pieces and some burning stuff. Also Uuskyla and Friis-Nielsen have a bit more of a solo space (there is some excellent duo in the middle), and they are a fascinating rhythm team to listen to - both have interesting and non-typical sound (very "shallow" sounding, I would say - but good), and a bit paradoxical sense of timing (Friis-Nielse's bass first created an immagery of some random bubbles coming up and exploding in the poot of boling water, without much system - but it makes perfect sense with Uuskyla's drumming). Thus, I formally change my #1 recommendation to Brötzmann novice to Noise of Wings (now good like finding it), although this might change after I hear Medecina.

This is teh same lineup as on Live at Nefertiti, on Ayler, which I really enjoy. I'm glad to hear it is worth listening to. Have you heard the disc on Ayler and are you able to compare the two? No, I haven't heard the one on Ayler! Hopefully, someone will have listened to both in a bit... Someone will, for sure. He-he.

Got a press release from Leo Records. There are 6 more releases upcoming, including one more solo Braxton from Milano 1979, more Wally Shoup trio, and new Frank Gratkowski project release.

Hans, I will receive it soon (as I am INTAKT subscriber) - and I will review it here. I listened to this one, and found it absolutely mediocre - really had problems listening to it till the end (I listend to it twice, and it's even worse second time around). Crispell is doing a lot of uninspired mindless noodling, and seems to be thowing all possible piano cliches ("romantic Bill Evans thing", "Cecil Taylor thing", "dark-pensive-brooding thing") without much thought or feeling - and however expertly performed, it is becoming extremely annoying almost immidiately. Guy is not particulalry supportive and is creating twice more sound than is probably required, IMO -and given that Crispell's piano is very heavy on the low end, on some tracks there is a constant bass "porridge" of sound. The best one is Lytton who is a pleasure to listen to, and seems to be the only one trying to create something and actually suport other two players. There are a couple of nice moments (it can't be all that bad with musicians of this calibre) - there is a solo arco Guy thing somewhere near the end - amazingly played (with sparce and tasteful use of of sounds - for once), and the last track - slow, melodic balladish thing is OK - but overall, the impression is of a forced work, not bringing joy neither to the musicinas nor to listeners. I have a couple more Crispell CDs in my collection (bot hon Leo, don't remember how they are called... one is with a symphonic orchestra, I think), and I will listen to them in the near future to see if she is any better there.

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Enja MW is planning an Abdullah Ibrahim remix project (to celebrate the man's 70th birthday). Details here: http://www.enjarecords.com/cd.php?nr=NIN-1902 Should be interesting.

This is teh same lineup as on Live at Nefertiti, on Ayler, which I really enjoy. I'm glad to hear it is worth listening to. Have you heard the disc on Ayler and are you able to compare the two? This morning I listened to Noise of Wings (Slask) by the same trio, and preliminary verdict is that it is even better than Live at Nefertiti - and, surprisingly (given that they were recorded just one day apart), somewhat different. I'm going to give it a decisive 3d listen and will report. In any case, I will probably go for Medicina - I am interested to see how this trio evolved over the four years.

Give me time till the end of the week to digest the set.

Looks like a great live music experience! I also never heard this bassist, but Wertmüller I know from Nothung, and he is indeed a phenomenal and unique musician. I can only imagine what he sounds like live. Nothung is an average+ Brötzmann record, meaning it's good (Wertmüller's work is the highlight for me), but there are many better ones. We discussed quite a few Brötzmann records in the Funny Rat thread, so a search should show enough of recommendations to keep your neightbours happy.

Do you like guitar, Tony? I mean GUITARRRRRRRRRRRR. I do, as long as it's not too dissonant or rock 'n' roll-ish. I have one Caspar's CD: Caspar Brötzmann Massaker "Home" (Thirsty Ear, 1995) - I will listen to it tonight, and will report here. This is a terrific record, but probably not something you would be interested in. This is guitar-drums-bass record like no other I've heard. Steady slow drum bit and repetative bass and very fuzzy (also repetative) low-tuned distorted guitar - quite intense and heavy. A bit of vocals (mainly hunning the same word, and a bit of shouting on one track - all sound good). Not that many solos as such -and when they are they are with a lot of (good) feedback. All sounds like it is just about to explode into noisy uncontrolled chaos, but somehow holds together. Excellent stuff, but form what I know about your tastes, gentlemen, only John B would probably enjoy it.

Do you like guitar, Tony? I mean GUITARRRRRRRRRRRR.

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Hmm, that looks very silly but might be very useful... It's probably pretty expensive. 708 Euro This is a new product, introduced just a couple if months ago (it is not even avaialble in the US yet - probably because peole there enjoy ironig more). In 6 months price will fall by 30-40%.

Are you enjoying your ironing, Tony? http://www.siemensappliances.co.uk/site/Dr...irtiron_434.asp

Tony, Hans - I am impressd by your progress. Gonna go do some creative cleanig as well. Done with Vysniauskas (got even better by the end... great stuff), and will go for joyful optimistic (I need that while cleaning) Enrico Fazio Quintet "Euphoria" (Splasc(H), 1991).

That's Brötzmann's son Caspar, btw. Watching out that his father does not get in too much trouble, I guess.

Found a Brötzmann discography - looks liek it is constantly updated: http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/rec/ps/efi/mbrotzm.html

Same here (the bathroom's waiting for me... ) So is mine! Loos like we have very demanding bathrooms. ---------------------------------------------------- Desided to drop the Ascension that I am revisiting due to Gary's "Album of the Week" thread (still not convinced by this album), and went to this one: Petras Vysniauskas "Viennese Concert" (Leo) SOme excellent stuff here (will write a review after I finish listening to it). Distinctive Russian (Soviet would be more correct, as Vysniauskas is from Lithuania) music (master musician Ganelin is on board here). OK AMG revew HERE.