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I thought this issue had been beat to death years ago, many times. It's no delusion - it seems clear that the stronger you can swing a bat, the further you can hit a ball. Take a hypothetical clean ball player who's a slugger who routinely hits the ball to the warning track. Suddenly he decides to start taking steroids, for whatever reason. Once he does this, he can build muscle mass he previously didn't have. The added muscle mass can help the slugger hit the ball harder than he used to. Hitting the ball harder can help that ball travel an extra 10-20' and clear the fence, when it didn't previously. Suddenly balls that would normally be a regular hit or an out are now clearing the fence. These are home runs that are a result of steroids. Sure, some of that slugger's hits were going to be home runs either way, but now some of them are in question. The mix is unknown. The steroids aren't going to make a consistent ground ball hitter suddenly start hitting home runs, but they will help a power hitter. That "hypothetical" clean player doesn't exist, nor can it be substantiated beyond your own opinion of what that means. It is an unprovable position based upon specious point about a player which may or may not actually be in MLB. Ergo, a pointless argument. Bonds was HR hitter and a seven time MVP before the accusations, Aggie. There is absolutely no direct correlation to steroids as it relates to hitting HRs. None. And I defy you to show me any proof to the contrary. Danny, OTOH, made this comment about "a hole" in Ortiz's swing that couldn't be repaired with steroids. Now why, in the same breath, he continues to delude himself into believing there is some legitimate relationship with Bonds and HRs as it relates to steroid use is utter hypocrisy.

Yeah, but Uribe sure as hell beat your smug little Dodger asses today, didn't he. Walk-off HR, baby. And they are throwing at everybody's big hitters, too. Typical Dodger chicken shit. And Freddy Sanchez plays 2B. Six more games in September with my guys and I hope to God they just bury those stinkin' Dodgers then bean Mannywood, Ethier and Blake [twice] right in the ear hole....the lucky bastards. FUCK the Dodgers. Grrrrrr

Fucking Dodgers. Fucking bad umpiring. Luckiest goddammed team in the history of baseball. Grrrrr

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Still laboring under the delusion that steroids make you hit homeruns, eh? Then why on Earth are you an apologist for Ortiz? Using your logic, Ortiz took steriods and now hits homeruns....but the doping test wasn't evidence.

That is your opinion and you are entittled to it, Danny. However...you are 100% wrong. 2003 the cream was not a banned substance. He has already admitted to using it not knowing it was a steroid. Everybody has a calendar. Ortiz bulked up, too. His numbers spiked. And that is all there is, Danny. But a very nice try anyway.

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That's your opinion and you are entittled to it. But you are 100% wrong...and I quote: Sorry, Danny....but getting a lawyer doesn't mean you're guilty any more than having a larger hat size proves you [knowingly] took steroids. Again I quote: We still do not have the same proof you are demanding of those who say Bonds "knowingly" was on the juice any more so than we do with Ortiz "knowingly" was on the juice. But Ortiz tested positive. Manny got 50 days. A-Rod got a free pass from the NY press. Bonds was never suspended nor tested positive. I seriously do not know how you can unequivocally delare one a cheat and reserve judgement on your guy Ortiz all in the same breath. It is pure conjecture either way you want to go, Danny.

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http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/reds...area_of_doping/ It is what he was quoted as saying, Dan. CNN aired it this morning: "I definitely was a little bit careless back in those days when I was buying supplements and vitamins over the counter -- legal supplements, legal vitamins over the counter -- but I never buy steroids or use steroids," Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/base...l#ixzz0NhPxOvSg I mean, you just can't make this stuff up.

Seems to me you could be tanned with your own brush here. No one knows if Bonds "knowingly" used them either, Dan.

He says took some vitamins...he was just careless about which ones he took. Uh-huh. Everyone who believes that, stand on your head.

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Exactly. So do I.

What do you want, for him to put on a Barney costume and tell everybody who posts "I wuv you"? Um. No. I just would like it if he wasn't such an abusively arrogant jerk about it. Barney, OTOH, is an eggplant with dentures....and, to my knowledge, never played professional baseball. No comparison.

No. But they fined him $30,000 bucks and gave him 10 years in the State Penitentiary. It was one strange case...like I stepped into a time warp of some kind. Guys with shit kickers on and a John Wayne drawl testified and we jurors heard everything there is to know about branding cattle in this state. Apparently, cattle wandered onto his property from neighboring cattle ranch operations and then he mated them with his own bulls. He sold the calves for a profit and/or branded them as his own livestock....then mated them again. The cycle continued. They did a DNA test to prove it. It was 1890 all over again. YEE-Haw! His defense was [and again, I swear I am not making this up] finders keepers, losers weepers. No kidding. Y'all.