Tim McG

A little early for these types of dire predictions, doncha think? Good point, in that they mentioned a painful memory for braves fans on espn last night. In 1996, we faced the Yankees, and won 12-1 in game one, and won game 2, 4-0....In Yankee stadium!!! So, clearly, the Braves won their 2nd straight WS, right? No, Yankees won 3 straight in Atlanta, and won game 6 back in Yankee stadium...so, one never knows, does one????? Exactly. The Rockies aren't finished just yet. As I said before, the Rocks have the hitting and Sox have the pitching. I think this will be going at least six games.

I had a bell for a neighbor when I lived on campus during my college days.

Got any #s on what % of that same generation went Yuppie, not to say voted for Reagan, Bush, & Bush? Myself, I'm a Boomer, and I got over it a loooong time ago. Not sure what you're meaning here, but there were plenty of conservatives and money grubbers in the Boomer Generation. Why should that surprise anyone?

I really think you're wrong there. That music was hyped as being not commercial in the sixties by the Clive Davises and Ahmet Erteguns of the world but what was happening was that, for the first time, hit albums were routinely outselling hit singles, basically because your generation had loadsamoney. Because of a slight historical disconnect (partly because so many of the big selling albums of the fifties and early sixties were jazz or jazz-related like Sinatra's), it was possible to persuade people (including the members of the new bands) that only singles were commercial. So a whole generation of kids believed that these bands were, in some way, anti-commercial, anti-establishment. But that had nothing to do with reality, which was that the moguls were making huge bucks out of supposedly non-commercial music. MG You may want to do a little research, MG.... First of all, this music was, in fact, anti-establishment, protest oriented, anti-war and pro free speech music. It was not at all written to be used as pop ditties for selling soap and whatnot. Secondly, if you seriously believe that paying $2-4 bucks for a record is the same as My Generation [read the lyrics of this tune, OK?] having "loadsamoney" then there is something dreadfully wrong with your thinking here. Lastly, the commercial business side of selling music/albums/concerts/radio air time to listeners/advertisers in order for the bands to make a living has absolutely nothing at all to do with the use of it on car commercials today. You apparently confuse the true nature of the songs and the value they had for us in the various struggles mentioned above with making money for the people who created it. Not the same thing....ain't even close, MG. Now if you are suggesting the Bubblegum Pop and later the Glitter Rock and Disco bullshit of the late 70s is commercial and therefore something nobody should complain about if it appears on TV commercials, then you would be right. Canned Heat [same All Over], Led Zeppelin [Rock and Roll], Buffalo Springfield [For What It's Worth], The Chambers Brothers [Time Has Come Today], O'Jays [Money] or Steppenwolf [born to be Wild], etc are not at all equatable with those venues at all and have no business being used on a TV commercial. The message in the lyrics [Led Zep being the least edgy, but surely not appropriate for a luxury vehicle] is being washed over in favor of a sound recognition/nostalgia teaser to get you to listen to the commercial. That is total bullshit and an insult to those of us who lived in those tumultuous times. That is what I object to. I think I might, just, agree with you, if you were talking about making ads out of Gil Scott-Heron's "The revolution will not be televised" or "Home is where the hatred is", or the Last Poets' "Run nigger" or "Niggers are scared of Revolution". But you're not, are you? MG Only if you discount the free speech movement, the anti-war movement and social change. Not everything important is tied into race, MG.

Active fires in SoCal:

Got a call back from my best friend last night. He could see the flames of the Santiago Canyon fire shooting up over a ridge not three blocks away from his place. He was told to evacuate at a moment's notice, but fortunately, the winds shifted and the fire came no closer.

A little early for these types of dire predictions, doncha think?

Sure, after he flipped off the SF fans at a game then called them all "faggots" Tavarez' stock went straight into the dumper. Besides, he has a history of doing this sort of thing, Noj. To wit: Tavarez' Tantrums He's a jackass and doesn't deserve the privledge of playing in a WS game.

I really think you're wrong there. That music was hyped as being not commercial in the sixties by the Clive Davises and Ahmet Erteguns of the world but what was happening was that, for the first time, hit albums were routinely outselling hit singles, basically because your generation had loadsamoney. Because of a slight historical disconnect (partly because so many of the big selling albums of the fifties and early sixties were jazz or jazz-related like Sinatra's), it was possible to persuade people (including the members of the new bands) that only singles were commercial. So a whole generation of kids believed that these bands were, in some way, anti-commercial, anti-establishment. But that had nothing to do with reality, which was that the moguls were making huge bucks out of supposedly non-commercial music. MG You may want to do a little research, MG.... First of all, this music was, in fact, anti-establishment, protest oriented, anti-war and pro free speech music. It was not at all written to be used as pop ditties for selling soap and whatnot. Secondly, if you seriously believe that paying $2-4 bucks for a record is the same as My Generation [read the lyrics of this tune, OK?] having "loadsamoney" then there is something dreadfully wrong with your thinking here. Lastly, the commercial business side of selling music/albums/concerts/radio air time to listeners/advertisers in order for the bands to make a living has absolutely nothing at all to do with the use of it on car commercials today. You apparently confuse the true nature of the songs and the value they had for us in the various struggles mentioned above with making money for the people who created it. Not the same thing....ain't even close, MG. Now if you are suggesting the Bubblegum Pop and later the Glitter Rock and Disco bullshit of the late 70s is commercial and therefore something nobody should complain about if it appears on TV commercials, then you would be right. Canned Heat [same All Over], Led Zeppelin [Rock and Roll], Buffalo Springfield [For What It's Worth], The Chambers Brothers [Time Has Come Today], O'Jays [Money] or Steppenwolf [born to be Wild], etc are not at all equatable with those venues at all and have no business being used on a TV commercial. The message in the lyrics [Led Zep being the least edgy, but surely not appropriate for a luxury vehicle] is being washed over in favor of a sound recognition/nostalgia teaser to get you to listen to the commercial. That is total bullshit and an insult to those of us who lived in those tumultuous times. That is what I object to.

Indeed. Smokey the Bear has a lot to answer for. You bet he does. We should be promoting forest fires, not preventing them. Damn that bear.

Who does? Julian Tavarez is a horse's ass and a certifiable nutburger. Gagne has playoff experience. Makes more sense. Good call on Francona's part, IMHO.

Dude - wake up. We are them now. I never fought in WWII...did you? No, and my dad never fought in WWI. This shit is not "cool" again. It's simply being repackaged to sell us back to ourselves. If it makes you or anybody else feel somehow "vindicated", go for it. But we are The Establishment now, and today's young people think we're just as out of it as we thought our folks were. Stuff like this leads me to believe they're right. My did fight in WWII. And you would be wrong. This music was never intended to be fodder for cereal and car commercials....but the 30-somethings in charge of marketing have sold the buttheads in the CEO's office that it sells merchandise. They sold us out. Gen-X sucks.

It was. My mistake. What I Like About You

Let's Work Together

Sorry, Man. Shoulda gone with my advice.

More Canned Heat Elavator Music

Dude - wake up. We are them now. I never fought in WWII...did you?

Of course, you would be kidding. On The Road Again

My brother sent me this from his backyard: I'd make it larger, but this BBS has some weird issue with "dynamic images" even though it appears on my personal website. Go figure.

You know, as an old guy [53 coming up] I am continually amazed by the use of tunes from my youth which were constantly degraded as "that damned hippie music" by people of that big, bad Great Generation [fucking hypocrites]. I mean, we are all real god-dammed grateful for their sacrifice during WWII [praise...Jeee-sus] and all of the Constitutional rights grab by their modern right-wing republican toadies who wipe their collective asses every time they bend over. Thank you, thank you, thank you already. GEEZ. But I digress. What really amazes me is how corporate America has decided to use that same music in their commercials now. The WWII veterans must be having a collective heart seizure. Kellogg's: On the Road Again Others: Same All Over has been used several times over the past few years. Hotel chain: Even What I Like about You by the Rommantics is cool. 60s and 70s music is hip again.

According to Foxsports.com, Jimenez is starting game 2 at Fenway and Fogg is starting Game 3 at home. If that is true, and the splits hold up, I LOVE IT! Since when did FoxSorts gain any credibility? So you hold court with Tim McCarver now? Oooo. Bad omen, Dan.

These are from a book called Disorder in the American Courts, and are things people actually said in court, word for word, taken down and now published by court reporters that had the torment of staying calm while these exchanges were actually taking place: ATTORNEY: What is your date of birth? WITNESS: July 18th. ATTORNEY: What year? WITNESS: Every year. _____________________________________ ATTORNEY: What gear were you in at the moment of the impact? WITNESS: Gucci sweats and Reeboks. ______________________________________ ATTORNEY: This myasthenia gravis, does it affect your memory at all? WITNESS: Yes. ATTORNEY: And in what ways does it affect your memory? WITNESS: I forget. ATTORNEY: You forget? Can you give us an example of something you forgot? _____________________________________ ATTORNEY: How old is your son, the one living with you? WITNESS: Thirty-eight or thirty-five, I can't remember which. ATTORNEY: How long has he lived with you? WITNESS: Forty-five years. _____________________________________ ATTORNEY: What was the first thing your husband said to you that morning? WITNESS: He said, "Where am I, Cathy?" ATTORNEY: And why did that upset you? WITNESS: My name is Susan. ______________________________________ ATTORNEY: Do you know if your daughter has ever been involved in voodoo? WITNESS: We both do. ATTORNEY: Voodoo? WITNESS: We do. ATTORNEY: You do? WITNESS: Yes, voodoo. ______________________________________ ATTORNEY: Now doctor, isn't it true that when a person dies in his sleep, he doesn't know about it until the next morning? WITNESS: Did you actually pass the bar exam? ___________________________________ ATTORNEY: The youngest son, the twenty-year-old, how old is he? WITNESS: Uh, he's twenty. ________________________________________ ATTORNEY: Were you present when your picture was taken? WITNESS: Would you repeat the question? ______________________________________ ATTORNEY: So the date of conception (of the baby) was August 8th? WITNESS: Yes. ATTORNEY: And what were you doing at that time? WITNESS: Uh.... ______________________________________ ATTORNEY: She had three children, right? WITNESS: Yes. ATTORNEY: How many were boys? WITNESS: None. ATTORNEY: Were there any girls? ______________________________________ ATTORNEY: How was your first marriage terminated? WITNESS: By death. ATTORNEY: And by whose death was it terminated? ______________________________________ ATTORNEY: Can you describe the individual? WITNESS: He was about medium height and had a beard. ATTORNEY: Was this a male or a female? ______________________________________ ATTORNEY: Is your appearanc e here this morning pursuant to a deposition notice which I sent to your attorney? WITNESS: No, this is how I dress when I go to work. ______________________________________ ATTORNEY: Doctor, how many of your autopsies have you performed on dead people? WITNESS: All my autopsies are performed on dead people. ______________________________________ ATTORNEY: ALL your responses MUST be oral, OK? What school did you go to? WITNESS: Oral. ______________________________________ ATTORNEY: Do you recall the time that you examined the body? WITNESS: The autopsy started around 8:30 p.m. ATTORNEY: And Mr. Denton was dead at the time? WITNESS: No, he was sitting on the table wondering why I was doing an autopsy on him! ______________________________________ ATTORNEY: Are you qualified to give a urine sample? WITNESS: Huh? ______________________________________ ATTORNEY: Doctor, before you performed the autopsy, did you check for a pulse? WITNESS: No. ATTORNEY: Did you check for blood pressure? WITNESS: No. ATTORNEY Did you check for breathing? WITNESS: No. ATTORNEY: So, then it is possible that the patient was alive when you began the autopsy? WITNESS: No. ATTORNEY: How can you be so sure, Doctor? WITNESS: Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar. ATTORNEY: But could the patient have still been alive, nevertheless? WITNESS: Yes, it is possible that he could have been alive and practicing law

Brother Mark is a monk in the monastery and he has taken his vow of silence. He gets one chance to speak every ten years. So, ten years pass and Brother Mark is called to the Head Monk's office. "Brother Mark," says the Head Monk, "You have taken your vow of chastity, you have obeyed the laws of God. You have earned your right to speak. What would you like to say?" Brother Mark looks at the Head Monk and says "Food's cold." Then he leaves. Ten more years pass and once again Brother Mark is called to the Head Monk's office. "Brother Mark," says the Head Monk, "You have taken your vow of chastity, you have obeyed the laws of God. Ten more years have passed, and you have earned your right to speak. What would you like to say?" Brother Mark looks at the Head Monk and says, "Bed's hard." Then he leaves. Ten more years pass. "Brother Mark," says the Head Monk, "You have taken your vow of chastity, you have obeyed the laws of God. You have earned your right to speak. What would you like to say?" "I quit," says Brother Mark. "That's all right. You was always bitchin' anyway."

Two hunters are out in the woods when one of them collapses. He doesn't seem to be breathing and his eyes are glazed. The other man pulls out his cell phone and calls emergency services. He gasps to the operator: "My friend is dead! What can I do?" The operator in a calm, soothing voice replies: "Take it easy. I can help. First, let's make sure he's dead." There is a silence, then a shot is heard. Back on the phone, the hunter says, "OK, now what?"

So this cab driver picks up a nun. She gets into the cab, and notices that the VERY handsome cab driver won't stop staring at her She asks him why he is staring. He replies: "I have a question to ask you but I don't want to offend you." She answers, "My son, you cannot offend me. When you're as old as I am and have been a nun as long as I have, you get a chance to see and hear just about everything. I'm sure that there's nothing you could say or ask that I would find offensive." "Well, I've always had a fantasy to have a nun kiss me. " the cab driver replies. She responds, "Well, let's see what we can do about that: #1, you have to be single and #2, you must be Catholic." The cab driver is very excited and says,"Yes, I'm single and Catholic! "OK" the nun says. "Pull into the next alley." The nun fulfills his fantasy with a kiss that would make a hooker blush. But when they get back on the road, the cab driver starts crying. "My dear child," said the nun, "Why are you crying?" "Forgive me but I've sinned. I lied and I must confess, I'm married and I'm Jewish." The nun says, "That's OK. My name is Kevin and I'm going to a Halloween party."