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OK. Here we go: <iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/B0XED9VI2cg?feature=player_detailpage" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> I'll try again: OK...so you just click "Copy video URL" and it works. Thanks. Got it. BTW, the drum solo @ 2:09 is very cool.

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From what I have read, Congress gave the land to the City of SF for free back in 2008. And you're right, developers are making this once useless land into a residential/multi-use facility. Great idea if you ask me. Glad to hear the Island is now in City hands. I hadn't heard, though I knew it wasn't private. Hopefully, the Navy took care of clean up before handing over a "hot potato". (Sure, the cleanup was all government money anyway you slice it, but I have more faith in the Navy on this task. But what do I know... ;-) ) I think you're right. Either way, I hope it works out well in the end. The Bay Bridge extension, however, is a disaster.

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From what I have read, Congress gave the land to the City of SF for free back in 2008. And you're right, developers are making this once useless land into a residential/multi-use facility. Great idea if you ask me.

isnt said island owned/developed by mr. pelosi? It was a Naval installation but now is a budding housing development. Not sure where you got any Pelosi connection. It is owned by the City of San Francisco. Link: http://www.sftreasureisland.org/

Looks like the new span of the Oakland Bay Bridge is just a money pit. They now say the support rods are way too stiff to withstand an earthquake and will need to be refitted. I'll be surprised if that bridge ever opens to anything more than bicycle and pedestrian traffic to Treasure Island.

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Agreed. And if it was within my power to stop the JC harassment, I would. Sadly, I cannot. Seconded. Call for the Question? Motion carried. Easy for you to say, my friend. Not so easy when you are the target. Again, I am all for burying the hatchet, but not when it is buried in my head. Fair?

C'mon, Ted. It isn't that simple. I don't want to "win" anything. I just thought you needed to understand. Apparently, I misread you. My bad.

Again, I am unable to defend against the untoward remarks on that JC link in Post #1, Mike. Secondly, I think people here have the right to know what really happened, don't you? It is in the telling of that tale the understanding begins and the truth can be found. Without which it will continue to fester. I'm all for burying the hatchet, but not when it is in my head. Post #1 wherein the imminence of JC's forums closure is announced and the smack talk begins anew.

Agreed. I played a role, for certain. I mean, I'm no angel [just ask Dan Gould ] but it simply did not rise to the level of threats, disparaging remarks about my professional abilities, or the barrage of character assassinations. All on account of a disagreement and one off-hand remark. Sure I was strident at times, but so were they...to the tenth power. The pack dog mentality kicked into hyper overdrive the moment I pointed that out. Suddenly, I was the thread hijacker, the troll, the flamer or the one with the lust for pissing contests. I was the #3 or #4 poster on that website with well over 36,000 posts because I made people think, laugh and get involved in the various discussions on that BBS. And to single me out for the demise of that place is sheer foolish pride. It was an amazing thing. The last few years of my 15+ year tenure on JC, I rarely posted anyplace other than the "Alley" or "Politics" yet I'm the guy who chased off the Jazz talk and caused posters to leave in droves? Sure. That would explain the exodus of several full-timers after I got the "treatment" or why nobody came back once I was gone. Simply put, I was collateral damage. It was easier to boot me than to get these guys to take ownership for their part in all of it. My words were harsh at times, but if you were being threatened, wouldn't you get hot under the collar? I think anybody would. The difference is I take full and complete responsibility for my words. All of them. I admit, I said things I regret saying [which was the motivation behind that e-mail to Lois; I am very sorry], but who hasn't? My chiefest complaint is instead of owning up to their own abhorrent behavior, they chose instead to fob it all off on me. Like I controlled their reactions somehow or made them say things so incendiary it would insult even the calmest individual. That is what happened. Plain and simple. But none of these guys will cop to that. I find that sad. Sadder still, they actually believe their own "press" so-to-speak. More than a year later the same crap continues. Why? Because I am a reminder of their own misgivings. Cognitive dissonance to the extreme.

Right. Which would explain Walto's "concern" for said teacher's students and parents. College isn't a parent driven venue. [winky, winky back atcha] That was no "professor" he and [thelil] were talking about. In a perfect world, I would absolutely agree with you. Sadly, in the JC world of job threats and character assassination quite the opposite is true. I totally agree with you. I must say though, that it took me a while to be able to avoid responding to negative comments so I sort of understand newer posters getting hooked on the pissing contest part of forums. I think for some people, like myself, it took a while to realize that pissing contests only diminish the potential of the place. And some people never stop loving that shit. Didn't stop you from running me down on that JC thread now, did it? You aren't kidding anybody with that big toe in the sand routine. You and I know better. I've toned it down and avoid pissing contests, but not a good debate. My posts aren't near as strident as they once were. Now what about you? Care to delete that obviously anti-Goody garbage on the JC thread?

I totally agree with you. I must say though, that it took me a while to be able to avoid responding to negative comments so I sort of understand newer posters getting hooked on the pissing contest part of forums. I think for some people, like myself, it took a while to realize that pissing contests only diminish the potential of the place. And some people never stop loving that shit. Ted- But here is the problem: As long as that link to JC exists [and I have no way to respond there thanks to the aforementioned] how else do I dispel rumors, self-fulfilling justifications [like they had nothing to do with it all; and for over a year later all those I allegedly chased off didn't come back] and out right lies? Then they come over here like they're just a bunch of really nice guys who were these innocent bystanders. Comparing me to DEEP is absolute fantasy and they know it. Put yourself in my shoes for just a minute and tell me you wouldn't respond negatively to a character assassination or threats of them making trouble for you at the workplace. Seems to me that if it were you they hate on, it would be a different story altogether. I'm just sick of the blame Goody bullshit. I'm willing to move on and they keep bringing it up on that JC thread for all here to see. That is a big bunch of garbage and they know that one, too. I have asked three times for that link to be deleted but nothing happens. It needs to stop. That's all I'm asking. Fair?

Hey! Giants didn't lose, no...wait. They didn't play. Never mind.

Lemme see...the other guy(s) start it and I'm the guy who is supposed to refrain from responding. Perfect. Just like old times, isn't guys? Personal responsibility is dead in this country. Done. Let's not generalize about an entire board and a whole bunch of people because of an exchange or two that bothered you. You can find the exact same kind of crap here among people who never posted on board Y. You're really sounding no different than the stuff you're complaining about. It was not a generalization. There are 4-5 posts that seem to me to be indicative of some type of long standing grudge between a couple of posters from board Y. Unless those posters represent all of Jazz Corner, err board Y, I see no generalization here whatsoever. Sorry you took it that way or that I was ambiguous with my statement. There are grudges here too. Some are childish as well. Others I don't understand - and that might be the case here Just seems like a bad way to make a first impression.... if one even needs to be made, I suppose. Or may better yet......never mind. It was probably to keep my yap shut. Carry on! You nailed it, Lyin' Wolf.

Just an FYI...I noticed a "Good Speak" has a FaceBook account recently. Not mine. I have nothing at all to do with it. Oh and Walto, [thelil], Blue Train? I do not keep a diary on the internet nor am I a college professor. Why that link to JC in the first post is still there truly baffles me. It has become a vehicle to slam me and spread rumors. But I guess that's the point, isn't it? Haters gonna hate. Carry on.

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/2013/05/26/roger-clemens-still-dogged-steroids-case/ux10r465jTsYiTSu1alinK/story.html Wait...what? They're threatening to stay on him about steroids use? Did I read that right or is it time for a optometrist visit? And since when is cheating on your wife a federal case against an athlete? Thanks for bringing me up to speed, Quincy.

About time. BTW...whatever happened to the Roger Clemons steroid court case nonsense?

Hope it's a great day, Scott!

It is much easier than trying to edit the earlier stuff out. The new quoting system sucks big hairy donkey balls... well, that's being harsh to donkeys. Harsh to Organissimo posters, too.

Well, I remember hearing the very same thing about the Giants in 2010. You just never know...

Tolja Houston is going to come alive in the AL West. You'll see.

Incorrect. It turns out that I can decide what's fun for me and that's not impacted in the slightest by whether or not it meets your definition. Whatever floats yer boat, Lenny. For some odd reason I never made the connection while on Organissimo. Very cool, Jim

Giants win one. Maybe they can get back on the good foot. [My apologies to James Brown]