Hybrid Cars.

[BERIGAN]

It is all probably true. What my "negative" posts are about is wtf do they do with the "residue" after you send it back.

Another concern I mentioned earlier (no one picked up on this) is the environmental "cost" manufacturing these "cells". Are the processes "clean"?

I am very wary of "corporate" promises.

Chuck, I think your fears can be alleviated, at least a bit because there is a lot of money to be make recycling automotive parts. I imagine Toyota is making a small fortune having folks just give them these batteries back(Well, for $200 bucks) Plus they look like are a green company as well.

I have seen somewheres(History Channel???) a program showing how recyclers are able to separate everything,I mean everything, plastics, all the many types of metals in products, etc, etc...wait...it may have been a show on tearing down old buildings, and how they reuse the older bricks from these factories, copper piping, wiring, on and on.

Plus, the recycling industry has to follow environmental rules for disposing of what can't be reused.

[BERIGAN]

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/09/automobi...amp;oref=slogin

Very interesting!

[porcy62]

It is all probably true. What my "negative" posts are about is wtf do they do with the "residue" after you send it back.

Another concern I mentioned earlier (no one picked up on this) is the environmental "cost" manufacturing these "cells". Are the processes "clean"?

I am very wary of "corporate" promises.

Chuck, I think your fears can be alleviated, at least a bit because there is a lot of money to be make recycling automotive parts. I imagine Toyota is making a small fortune having folks just give them these batteries back(Well, for $200 bucks) Plus they look like are a green company as well.

I have seen somewheres(History Channel???) a program showing how recyclers are able to separate everything,I mean everything, plastics, all the many types of metals in products, etc, etc...wait...it may have been a show on tearing down old buildings, and how they reuse the older bricks from these factories, copper piping, wiring, on and on.

Plus, the recycling industry has to follow environmental rules for disposing of what can't be reused.

I agree with Conrad, you may believe or not, but over here stealing copper from railroad crossing, I think they use big transformer for it, is getting a lucrative activity. When the villains and the thiefs are entering in an economic process (recycling), you can be sure that it worths it.

[BERIGAN]

Porcy, had no idea Copper theft was a global issue! Here about it a lot here in the south. Found this link talking about the worldwide problem...

http://www.geotimes.org/oct06/resources.html

[porcy62]

Porcy, had no idea Copper theft was a global issue! Here about it a lot here in the south. Found this link talking about the worldwide problem...

http://www.geotimes.org/oct06/resources.html

Nor did I. We should locked our fridges.

[Chuck Nessa]

Chuck, I think your fears can be alleviated, at least a bit because there is a lot of money to be make recycling automotive parts. I imagine Toyota is making a small fortune having folks just give them these batteries back(Well, for $200 bucks) Plus they look like are a green company as well.

Has anyone addressed my question about the energy/pollution issue in the manufacturing processes?

If I missed it, accept my .

I fear we are all pissing in the dark and some of us are staining our shoes. I do not trust the folks making the money to tell the truth.

Edited December 15, 2007 by Chuck Nessa

[porcy62]

Chuck, I think your fears can be alleviated, at least a bit because there is a lot of money to be make recycling automotive parts. I imagine Toyota is making a small fortune having folks just give them these batteries back(Well, for $200 bucks) Plus they look like are a green company as well.

Has anyone addressed my question about the energy/pollution issue in the manufacturing processes?

If I missed it, accept my .

I fear we are all pissing in the dark and some of us are staining our shoes. I do not trust the folks making the money to tell the truth.

From my point of view it depends how much do you use your car. I made less then 2000 miles per year, so I presume that the energy/pollution in the manufacturing of a less gas guzzler car, BTW I own a Honda HRV, not a 8V Suv, doesn't worth the game. Obviously if you are commuter with a daily 80/100 miles, well, probably the thing is different.

[Chuck Nessa]

No, I mean what pollution is caused manufacturing the various "cells" to power the "clean" cars. We have to look at manufacturing, public use and disposal of all products. Not simple.

For example, plastic wrap may protect food, save 400 people a year from disease but the manufacturing processes may make 600 people ill.

[porcy62]

No, I mean what pollution is caused manufacturing the various "cells" to power the "clean" cars. We have to look at manufacturing, public use and disposal of all products. Not simple.

For example, plastic wrap may protect food, save 400 people a year from disease but the manufacturing processes may make 600 people ill.

Hard question, though in general, at least over here, industrial process is greatly improved in the last twenty years, both for the enviromental impact and the workers' health. One of the reason because the bastards of big corporations moved the plants in China or India or Russia, security and cleaningness has a cost. Without considering the lacks of workers' rights.