7/4 Posted November 26, 2004 Report Share Posted November 26, 2004 think's so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleM Posted November 26, 2004 Report Share Posted November 26, 2004 (edited) case in point: cd's and freakin' lp's. I see that one daily. CDS!!! Edited November 26, 2004 by doubleM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKE BBB Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 Guerrilla is the way the anglo-saxon spell this word. It derives from the french word Guerre (War). But the French spell it Guerilla You're such a chauvinist Brownie I think brownie merely pointed at the internal inconsistency of the french language with respect to this word. No, I think he's just got the derivation wrong - not every word comes from France. This word, as it's being used here, comes from Spanish. Does the "illa" suffix mean anything in French? While recognizing the french and spanish have a common source, I was merely pointing out that the anglosaxon spelling of this word comes from the spanish which is where the word comes from-and is therefore spelled quite correctly. And now here comes skeith who seems to be on a crusade of his own and is more and more on the lookout for confrontations Actually, the French word 'guerre' comes from ancient German as this specialist site - in French - indicates: http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/epc/langueXIX/dg/08_t1-2.htm And I have been around long enough to know that a guerrillero is somebody who joins the guerrilla! Guerrilla is what I wrote and it was what I meant! You want to stage a guerrilla about that? And next time you pick up from Wikipedia as you did to give a spanish origin to 'guerre', just indicate your source. Don't think Wikipedia is the ultimate reference. Look Brownie, I know you assume we americans are too ignorant to speak any language other than english, but as it happens I speak spanish. I only have the vaguest clue as to what Wikipedia is and no I did not look it up there. You said you enjoy seeing people mess up trying to speak French and I see you messed up on Spanish. .. he who lives by the sword. I am sure you meant what you wrote, I don't question it - it's just wrong. I don't care to peruse your specialist site. If it came from German it probably went to Latin before french and therefore came to spanish the same way. Guerre may be french but guerilla is clearly spanish. Is "illa" a common sufffix in french? Hasta luego Talkin´ about war... B-) The Spanish word guerra also comes from German werra/wërra (old). No Latin here, as Latin word was bellum. We use the adjective bélico (related to war), but not the noun. So, both French and Spanish words derive from old German. It also went to Dutch warre. Couw? Enough casus belli for today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 It also went to Dutch warre. Couw? nope, we only have "oorlog." war is for tangled, like hair or strings of wool. "my hair is in the war," we can hear a famous flemish comedian say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patricia Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 (edited) case in point: cd's and freakin' lp's. I see that one daily. CDS!!! I [looking down, overcome with shame, kicking the sand] hereby resolve to cease and desist using this one as I have been guilty of doing. Why have I done it?? Some diabolical force compelled me to do it, for which I am truly sorry. Edited November 27, 2004 by patricia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 It also went to Dutch warre. Couw? nope, we only have "oorlog." And the ancient "krijg", like the German "Krieg". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKE BBB Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 It also went to Dutch warre. Couw? nope, we only have "oorlog." But old Dutch (neerlandés)? The official Diccionario de la Real Academia de la Lengua Española says so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 It also went to Dutch warre. Couw? nope, we only have "oorlog." And the ancient "krijg", like the German "Krieg". indeed, but who plays that game of krijgertje anymore nowadays? Just thinking that "oorlog" probably does have the same stem as "war," just need to figure out where the "-log" comes from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 It also went to Dutch warre. Couw? nope, we only have "oorlog." But old Dutch (neerlandés)? The official Diccionario de la Real Academia de la Lengua Española says so. hmm, I'm overasked with that. I have never run across it really. In olde English textes yes, but not in Dutch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 It also went to Dutch warre. Couw? nope, we only have "oorlog." But old Dutch (neerlandés)? The official Diccionario de la Real Academia de la Lengua Española says so. They probably picked that up when we were fighting the Spanish for our freedom from the mid-1500s to the mid-1600s... B-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 It also went to Dutch warre. Couw? nope, we only have "oorlog." But old Dutch (neerlandés)? The official Diccionario de la Real Academia de la Lengua Española says so. They probably picked that up when we were fighting the Spanish for our freedom from the mid-1500s to the mid-1600s... B-) they had 80 years for that you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 It also went to Dutch warre. Couw? nope, we only have "oorlog." But old Dutch (neerlandés)? The official Diccionario de la Real Academia de la Lengua Española says so. hmm, I'm overasked with that. I have never run across it really. In olde English textes yes, but not in Dutch. "War" comes from "warre", which means entanglement, confusion, battle in medieval Dutch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKE BBB Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 It also went to Dutch warre. Couw? nope, we only have "oorlog." But old Dutch (neerlandés)? The official Diccionario de la Real Academia de la Lengua Española says so. They probably picked that up when we were fighting the Spanish for our freedom from the mid-1500s to the mid-1600s... B-) they had 80 years for that you know. You want warre? guerra. (Del germ. *werra, pelea, discordia; cf. a. al. ant. wërra, neerl. medio warre). 1. f. Desavenencia y rompimiento de la paz entre dos o más potencias. 2. f. Lucha armada entre dos o más naciones o entre bandos de una misma nación. 3. f. pugna (ǁ entre personas). 4. f. Lucha o combate, aunque sea en sentido moral. 5. f. Oposición de una cosa con otra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 It also went to Dutch warre. Couw? nope, we only have "oorlog." But old Dutch (neerlandés)? The official Diccionario de la Real Academia de la Lengua Española says so. They probably picked that up when we were fighting the Spanish for our freedom from the mid-1500s to the mid-1600s... B-) they had 80 years for that you know. You want warre? Ha, but we won! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 French? Spanish? Old german? Old dutch? Doesn't make a difference these days... It's all Old Europe by now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Williams Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 Fuchsia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 Fuchsia That's a classic - the wrong spelling (fuschia) seems to be winning... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Williams Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 The contraction it's of it is is often used as possessive pronoun of it, instead of its. I could swear I was taught that " its' " was valid as a possessive pronoun when I was in school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Williams Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 Fuchsia That's a classic - the wrong spelling (fuschia) seems to be winning... If I remember aright the plant was discovered/developed by a bloke named Fuchs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Williams Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 case in point: cd's and freakin' lp's. I see that one daily. CDS!!! I dunno, when you're pluralising an acronym maybe an apostrophe makes sense. Personally I use "LPs" rather than "LPS". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 oh, and the guy's name is Phil Schaap, not Schapp bêêêêh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 The contraction it's of it is is often used as possessive pronoun of it, instead of its. I could swear I was taught that " its' " was valid as a possessive pronoun when I was in school. My English teacher nearly got a heart attack every time someone used it's instead of its as a possessive pronoun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 oh, and the guy's name is Phil Schaap, not Schapp bêêêêh (Schaap is Dutch for sheep) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Williams Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 The contraction it's of it is is often used as possessive pronoun of it, instead of its. I could swear I was taught that " its' " was valid as a possessive pronoun when I was in school. My English teacher nearly got a heart attack every time someone used it's instead of its as a possessive pronoun. It's the apostrophe after the s that I thought used to be OK. I'm off to check my Oxford Concise again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 The contraction it's of it is is often used as possessive pronoun of it, instead of its. I could swear I was taught that " its' " was valid as a possessive pronoun when I was in school. My English teacher nearly got a heart attack every time someone used it's instead of its as a possessive pronoun. It's the apostrophe after the s that I thought used to be OK. I'm off to check my Oxford Concise again. Oops, sorry, thought it was a typo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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