Guest ariceffron Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 did he ever do a strings record Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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brownie Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 No trace of Lester Young with strings on records In the 1958 interview made in Paris that is in the 'Lester Young' box on Verve, Lester Young mentions that somebody in New York (Gil Evans is assumed to have been that man) was 'writing some music for me. When I get back, I got bass violin, two cellos and a viola, and a French horn, see what I mean?'. Lester Young died in New York two weeks after that interview... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 It does seem odd that Pres never recorded with strings. After all, Verve was doing string records for just about all of its star horn players of the time: Bird, Clifford, Webster, Eldridge, Hawk, Flip Phillips, etc.. Why not Pres? It would have been so natural. Maybe Pres resisted the idea for a while? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ariceffron Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 its not that odd after that explaination. '56 was about when the strings lps started to come out w/ more regularity, right when prez died. he would of made a bunch im sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 It does seem odd that Pres never recorded with strings. After all, Verve was doing string records for just about all of its star horn players of the time: Bird, Clifford, Webster, Eldridge, Hawk, Flip Phillips, etc.. Why not Pres? It would have been so natural. Maybe Pres resisted the idea for a while? John, from what I have read, Prez was kind of dissatisfied with Granz around that time (1957/58). One of the reason is that Granz would not record him with strings. In the last months of his life, he mentioned the possibility of switching labels. I think UA was considered for that 'with strings' date. And that last date 'Lester Young in Paris' was not recorded for Verve but for Barclay. Verve later acquired the masters and released the album shortly after the death of Lester Young. This must have been an easy deal since Barclay was releasing the Verve albums in France. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 did he ever do a strings record Aric, how did you manage to unlock your caps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 It does seem odd that Pres never recorded with strings. After all, Verve was doing string records for just about all of its star horn players of the time: Bird, Clifford, Webster, Eldridge, Hawk, Flip Phillips, etc.. Why not Pres? It would have been so natural. Maybe Pres resisted the idea for a while? John, from what I have read, Prez was kind of dissatisfied with Granz around that time (1957/58). One of the reason is that Granz would not record him with strings. In the last months of his life, he mentioned the possibility of switching labels. I think UA was considered for that 'with strings' date. And that last date 'Lester Young in Paris' was not recorded for Verve but for Barclay. Verve later acquired the masters and released the album shortly after the death of Lester Young. This must have been an easy deal since Barclay was releasing the Verve albums in France. Yea, that makes sense. By 1957, Pres wasn't making too many recordings, period. 1956 was exceptional in that sense. Yet I wouldn't want to trade any of the 1956 Verve recordings with Teddy Wilson for a strings date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 How about all those records with Freddie Green? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 How about all those records with Freddie Green? Not to mention Charlie Christian. : Freddie Green and Walter Page did put some of those more proper string sections to shame, didn't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornelius Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 "[...] Verve was doing string records for just about all of its star horn players of the time: Bird, Clifford, Webster, Eldridge, Hawk, Flip Phillips, etc.." [John L] Clifford Brown? When did Granz record Clifford Brown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swinging Swede Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 Actually I think that only Eldridge recorded with strings for Verve of those names... Bird never even heard of a label called Verve! As for Lester with strings, don't forget those early Basie sides with Claude Williams! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 "[...] Verve was doing string records for just about all of its star horn players of the time: Bird, Clifford, Webster, Eldridge, Hawk, Flip Phillips, etc.." [John L] Clifford Brown? When did Granz record Clifford Brown? My appologies. Of course, Clifford Brown with strings was not on Verve (or Clef or Norgran), although the project most likely received its inspiration from what Granz was doing. No? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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