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Guest ariceffron
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i was just listening to 'shes goin bald' from smiley smile and my word that tune DEFINETLY influenced Frank Zappa. isnt it obvious?

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I don't think either one influenced the other. Both Zappa and the Beach Boys have roots in 1950's doo-wop, and each would reference that style on occasion - partly tongue in cheek, partly with affection.

jack

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I always thought this track was influenced by hashish or something potent like that. :eye:

I have a Smile bootleg that has the full version of "Our Prayer" - After the beautiful singing, they break down into stoned laughter. It's amazing they could sing so well while totally loaded. I haven't smoked anything in a decade, but I sure sucked as a musician when I did (I thought I was great, though).

I agree with Jack, it was probably just a common influence. Smiley Smile was recorded in mid-67 and Zappa had already done Doo-Wop type stuff.

I know Smiley Smile, Wild Honey, Friends are slagged-off by some, but I think they're great albums.

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I actually think it's very possible that the Beach Boys were looking somewhat to Zappa when they made those records - the ironic, distanced lyrics are related to the whole new abstract rock thing, and Zappa was certainly seen as one of the leading rock non-conformists -

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I've been actually hearing some strong connections between Zappa and George Clinton (especially the Funkadelic material). I'm amazed that they never collaborated. What a great album that would've been!

Guest ariceffron
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the part i was discussing was not doo wop but really more in the crazy frank 'speaking' style...ie. muffin' man

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