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Hey is this about a new kind of improv??

Man, I saw Archie Shepp last summer with Roswell Rudd, Andrew Cyrille, and Reggie Workman. Those cats, especially Shepp, are pretty old, and somehow still cool. Shepp still has the buzz of a young man. He gets my vote.

Piper at the Gates of Dawn is my favorite PF album, by very very far. ANd the only one I can really listen to anymore (and not that often).

I own this whole series, and it is all very worth it. I hope they keep up the output. I have a hard time picking a favorite. But the McPhee albums are mind blowing.

What should we JCers know about Che? He has jumped onto our ship now.

nice reviews! I've been very impressed by the four ErstLives so far. 1 and 3 are the most immediately gripping, but I've been spending a lot more time with 4 recently. I really can't recommend this disc highly enough. The four musicians work in an area closer to what I would expect from Sachiko than from Pita or Fennesz, but the level of communication and responsiveness is amazing. Never mind the fact that I really enjoy the sounds these four create, and I am most definitely not a huge fan of sine waves as a musical instrument. The "editorial" at the top of the page is funny. I almost forgot what day today is. 004 is my favorite of the erstlives by far. I am dying to recieve 005.

Man, there is not a wasted note on Dialogue or Componants. Both incredible albums. But that is just IMO. My favorite hard bop is when they insinuate toward the more avant-garde. That is some exciting stuff. But I guess if you don't dig AG then you miss out.

I love both discs but I really really love the Red and Green tracks so much I have to choose Life Time.

I think it might have something to do with the plants involved... Oh believe me, these guys are not that cool. Actually if they did grow more of that kinda plant, they might be a little more chill.

Jeez, your high-frequency sensitivity must be taking a beating if that's in heavy rotation in your house. Just listening to it straight through is enough to get my ears tingling. Interesting disc but it's definitely not one I pull out lightly. I truthfully have no idea what I've listened to most over the years. I really have played that more than any other EAI, but that is nothing. Number two is probably Do.

That had better be the most sarcastic statement I have seen in a long time! No way honey buns. I think it really it the best thread ever.

This has got to be the *best* thread on any jazz forum I have seen in a long time! I will hold this image in my head forever:

I post on many sites: JC, Organissimo, AAJ, I hate music, Good Music Guide (classical music), freejazz.com, bagatellen, the aebersold forum, sax on the web, I love music, etc. They are all the same. There can be flameouts on any board. And yes, on other subjects it can get much much worse. Believe it or not I have seen much worse all out war on plant forums (I used to frequent plant listservers when I worked as a botanists). For some reason jazz people tend to be more polite than plant freaks. Go figure. As it stands now, jazz corner and organissimo match my interests the best.

Jazz- John Coltrane: Live at Villiage Vanguard box (I listened to this a hell of a lot when I first got it, and the album a hell of a lot before that. The album made me switch from guitar to tenor sax as a primary instrument. Rock- Beach Boys: Pet Sounds There is no better rock album. Classical- Luigi Nono: Fragmente-Stille, An Diotima EAI- Yoshihide, M, Nakamura: Good Morning, Good Night

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Paris Transatlantic also reviews Creative Sources discs including last month

I have the original print of this record. I thought it was totally forgotten about. Speaking of forgotten about:: When or when will they reissue the arista records!??

Every forum has a political section, or most of them anyway. You aren't gonna turn anyone off or surprise anyone. The same political debates happen everywhere so don't feel special. That said, I have rather enjoyed my hiatus from political forums. I just don't have the time for that crap.

that was my fault! But I am kinda glad that is over in a way. It wasn't like anyone was communicating.

I am working on a more or less egalitarian exchange with Chris via email regarding EAI now. I will let you all know what comes of it. I already feel like without the name calling, and Adams and Ulis etc. I can get somewhere with him. But we'll see. Jon I hope you don't mind my representation. But I think I can talk his language.

These you can hook right up to your stereo with no computer involved, and record just like normal. I use this method and the results are great! The only problem is that the track markers are often off, especially in sets with lots of stops or silence. On an art ensemble album I had some nearly 100 tracks. Totally annoying. I have not figured out how to fix that problem. But I just keep an eye while the CD is recording and mark which track numbers are for each song. Sounds like your cd recorder is automatically putting in tracks during silences. You need to set it to manual, so that you have to physically press a button for it to mark the next track. Even when I set it on manual it still makes extra tracks. I called the company and they couldn't help either. Oh well, it really doesn't matter too much to me. Maybe they have fixed the problem with the newer machines.

These you can hook right up to your stereo with no computer involved, and record just like normal. I use this method and the results are great! The only problem is that the track markers are often off, especially in sets with lots of stops or silence. On an art ensemble album I had some nearly 100 tracks. Totally annoying. I have not figured out how to fix that problem. But I just keep an eye while the CD is recording and mark which track numbers are for each song.

lol, ironically I was thinking of The Gories version on "outa here", quite a raunchy version itself.

But my point is that we mindlessly impose things onto music. We all have natural filters that alter our experience of the music, aside of whatever the intent of the musicians are. I for one would like to remove as many of those filters as much as possible. I don't think that is being too "heady" about the music. I think there are times to be analytical, especially as a musician wanting to learn a tune, or understand what a player is doing. Then there are times when I just want to lie back and let the music pour over me without having my filters at work. I certainly don't want to lazily let these inappropriate filters invade my experience of the music. I really do think, often, people DO let this happen, myself included.

How is this not analytical? I am speaking on terms more than just regarding the lay listener. I mean, amongst us who really do spend a lot of time with music, how much are we listening and how much do a variety of filters (including "analytical") interrupt our experience of the music?